Harry of Drogo Fitz Poyntz

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With her siblings, Henrietta and George, by Angelica Kauffman, c. 1774. The painting was painted just before Georgiana’s marriage to the Duke of Devonshire.

When I saw Prince Harry walking behind the casket of his grandmother, I saw an old soul. Today I identified him. John Spencer was called ‘The Red Earl’ because he has a RED BEARD like Harry. John was accepted by the Liberal Irish and toured America. I suspect he got in touch with Irish Leaders. He descends from Rollo and William the Conqueror via Pons Fitz Pons, spelled Poyntz, who Charles and Princess Diana descend from.

Alas, I know why Queen Elizabeth wanted her son to marry Dianna Spencer. She was afraid a Irish Royalists would begat a lineage of Normans from her, and become independent of the British Crown. I know why Dianna was not buried in Saint George’s Cathedral. Harry and his family are related to Fair Rosamond Clifford. This is the hidden Dragon (Drogo) Lineage from Rollo.

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Spencer, however, was well received by Irish Liberal members, and although his role was primarily social and ceremonial his influence over Irish policy increased substantially during his term of office.

He supported Gladstone’s policy of land reform but found himself confronted with a wave of agrarian violence despite the implementation of the Land Act and the Peace Preservation Act in 1870.

Spencer, John Poyntz (1835–1910), 5th Earl Spencer , lord lieutenant of Ireland, was born on 27 October 1835 at Spencer House, St James’s, London, the eldest son of Frederick, 4th Earl Spencer, and his first wife, Elizabeth Georgiana (d. 1851), the second daughter of William Stephen Poyntz, MP, of Cowdray Park, Sussex. He entered Harrow School in 1848 and, following a spell with a private tutor at Brighton, went up to Trinity College, Cambridge, in October 1854, and graduated in January 1857.

The funeral of Queen Elizabeth II is arguably the largest event of its kind since the state funeral of Princess Diana in terms of attendance. The hour-long funeral service at Westminster Abbey will be attended by both family members and major political heads of state — including Joe and Jill Biden — and is expected to attract a record-breaking 4.1 billion viewers

Enter – The Clifford Dragon

Posted on September 18, 2018 by Royal Rosamond Press

I have every intention of dethroning George Martin, grabbing his Emmy from his hand, melting it down to make a sword, and drive it into to cold green heart of his fictional dragon: For, he dips his pin into the Rosy Book and Blood of my ancestors, and makes money on our struggles  and sorrows.

The Clifford family bonded with the Greystokes, who appear to vanish into thin air, giving rise to the legend of Tarzan. Consider Miriam Starfish.

As a spirit, I will enter Skipton Castle and haunt this place where my ancestors did tread. If I were my daughter, I would put an end to her, and everyone’s Cat and Mouse Game, and take all that lured this minor child away form her father – to court! Too many mouse holes does a dull daughter, make. Be the Dragon Born, or the Dragon Gates will be closed to you……..forever!

Grasp the little meese by their tails, and put them outside the gate, and the rosy world will be yours.

John Rosamond Kane




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Following the service, the Queen’s coffin will be transported to its final resting place: the Royal Vault underneath St. George’s Chapel in Windsor Castle. According to the Daily Mail, the 200-year-old mausoleum was constructed on the order of King George III and has space for 44 caskets. Among the royals interred there are the Queen’s father, King George VI, and Elizabeth, the Queen Mother. The coffin of the Queen’s beloved husband, Prince Philip, will also be moved next to the Queen’s, making for a final family reunion. Another well-known figure inside the vault is King Henry VIII; he’s located next to his third wife, Jane Seymour. 

One would expect that Princess Diana, “the People’s Princess,” would be interred in the Royal Vault as well, and certainly, her legion of fans might argue that she deserves to have a spot there. However, there’s a reason why she was denied this honor. 

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Considering the immense popularity of Princess Diana and the grand nature of her funeral, it would be easy to assume that her final resting place would be in the same tomb where so many famous Kings and Queens have been interred. However, that’s not the case. According to the Daily Mail, the Royal Vault under St. George’s Chapel is strictly reserved for members of the royal family. While Diana did have a noble background — her father was the Earl of Spencer, per Britannica — she only became a royal when she married Prince (now King) Charles in 1981. She retained her “Princess” title after her infamous divorce from the prince, but she was still legally a private citizen when she was tragically killed in a car crash in 1997. 

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Her brother, Earl Charles Spencer, arranged for Diana to be buried on an island on the grounds of Althorp Estate. It was far enough away from the palace to protect the site from crowds and vandals, yet close enough for her two young sons to visit and mourn privately. The estate itself is open to visitors during the summer (via Parade), but the gravesite is available only to family members. People wishing to leave tributes for the princess can come to a small temple dedicated to her, on the estate’s lakeside. Visitors are also welcome to view the statue dedicated to Princess Diana on the grounds of Kensington Palace. 

When Walter de Clifford Lord of Cantref Bychan et Clifford was born in 1113, in Clifford, Herefordshire, England, his father, Richard FitzPons de Clifford, was 38 and his mother, Matilda FitzWalter, was 28. He married Margaret Toeni in 1135, in Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England. They were the parents of at least 9 sons and 5 daughters. He died on 23 May 1190, in Godstow, Oxfordshire, England, United Kingdom, at the age of 77, and was buried in Oxford, Oxfordshire, England, United Kingdom.

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Margaret de Tosny was born in 1109 at Northumberland, England. She was the daughter of Radulf II de Tosny and Alice of Huntingdon.

Margaret de Tosny married Walter, 1st Lord Clifford, son of Richard fitz Ponce, circa 1135.

Richard Fitz Pons[a] (c. 1080 – 1129) was an Anglo-Norman nobleman, active as a marcher lord on the border with Wales.

He is described as a follower of Bernard de Neufmarche, and probably first builder of Bronllys Castle. He started construction at Llandovery Castle[1] in 1116.[2]


His father was Pons Fitz Pons (c. 1034 – bef. 1086). He married Matilda Fitz Walter (died after 1127), daughter of Walter Fitz Roger, sheriff of Gloucester, and Bertha de Ballun. Walter de Clifford was one of their four children.

Richard was the heir of Drogo Fitz Pons and Walter Fitz Pons, both mentioned in the Domesday Survey. He is now taken to be their nephew.[3] They had lands in GloucestershireHerefordshirePinxton in DerbyshireGlasshampton in Worcestershire[4][b]


Georgiana Cavendish, Duchess of Devonshire (née Spencer/dʒɔːrˈdʒeɪnə/ jor-JAY-nə; 7 June 1757 – 30 March 1806), was an English aristocrat, socialite, political organiser, author, and activist. Born into the Spencer family, married into the Cavendish family, she was the first wife of William Cavendish, 5th Duke of Devonshire, and the mother of the 6th Duke of Devonshire.

As the Duchess of Devonshire, she garnered much attention and fame in society during her lifetime.[1][2] With a pre-eminent position in the peerage of England, the Duchess was famous for her charisma, political influence, beauty, unusual marital arrangement, love affairs, socializing, and gambling.

She was the great-great-great-great aunt of Diana, Princess of Wales. Their lives, centuries apart, have been compared in tragedy.[3] She is also a great-great-great-aunt of Queen Elizabeth II by marriage through the queen’s maternal grandmother.

“Vice-Admiral Frederick Spencer, 4th Earl Spencer KG, CB, PC (14 April 1798 – 27 December 1857), styled The Honourable Frederick Spencer until 1845, was a British naval commander, courtier and Whig politician. He initially served in the Royal Navy and fought in the Napoleonic Wars and the Greek War of Independence, eventually rising to the rank of Vice-Admiral. He succeeded his elder brother as Earl Spencer in 1845 and held political office as Lord Chamberlain of the Household between 1846 and 1848 and as Lord Steward of the Household between 1854 and 1857. In 1849 he was made a Knight of the Garter. Through his second son, Charles, Lord Spencer was the great-great-grandfather of Diana, Princess of Wales.”

Spencer was the son of Frederick Spencer, 4th Earl Spencer, by his first wife Georgiana, daughter of William Poyntz. The prominent Whig politician John Spencer, 3rd Earl Spencer, was his uncle and Charles Spencer, 6th Earl Spencer, his half-brother. He was educated at Harrow and Trinity College, Cambridge, from which he graduated in 1857.[1]

Almost immediately after leaving Cambridge Spencer was elected to parliament for South Northamptonshire as a Liberal, before departing for a tour of North America. He returned in December 1857, and within a few days his father died, leaving him as the new Earl Spencer. He was sworn of the Privy Council in 1859[2] and made a Knight of the Garter in 1864. Spencer split from other whiggish aristocratic Liberals in 1866 on the issue of Russell‘s reform bill, which he supported, and his loyalty was rewarded by his appointment as Lord Lieutenant of Ireland when Gladstone returned to power in 1868. Ireland came to be a major preoccupation of the remainder of Spencer’s long political career. In this first tenure as Lord Lieutenant, he had to deal with implementation of the disestablishment of the Church of Ireland in 1869 and of the Landlord and Tenant (Ireland) Act 1870, both of which measures he strongly supported. Spencer, in fact, went further than most of his ministerial colleagues, including Gladstone himself, in arguing for the setting up of government tribunals to enforce fair rents on Irish landlords (a reform which would eventually be introduced by the Land Law (Ireland) Act 1881).

After the separate Northamptonshire RVCs were formed into an administrative battalion the following year, Spencer was promoted to major on 2 April 1861.[9][10] When the battalion held its annual camp at Althorp in 1864, Spencer’s hospitality included providing his own cook to direct the officers’ mess.[11]

Also in 1859, Spencer was a leading member of the committee that established the National Rifle Association of the United Kingdom, and hosted the committee’s meetings at Spencer House, London. The Association’s first competitive meetings were held at Wimbledon Common, part of Spencer’s manor of Wimbledon.[12] In 1867 he served on a War Office committee to investigate breech-loading rifles.[13]






Spencer, John Poyntz

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Spencer, John Poyntz (1835–1910), 5th Earl Spencer , lord lieutenant of Ireland, was born on 27 October 1835 at Spencer House, St James’s, London, the eldest son of Frederick, 4th Earl Spencer, and his first wife, Elizabeth Georgiana (d. 1851), the second daughter of William Stephen Poyntz, MP, of Cowdray Park, Sussex. He entered Harrow School in 1848 and, following a spell with a private tutor at Brighton, went up to Trinity College, Cambridge, in October 1854, and graduated in January 1857.

Spencer became Liberal MP for South Northamptonshire, a seat controlled by the Spencer family, in the elections of April 1857. After the death of his father, on 27 December 1857, he entered the Lords as 5th Earl Spencer. In 1859 he was appointed groom of the stole to the prince consort, a position he held until the prince’s death in 1861; from 1862 to 1866 he performed the same function for the prince of Wales (later Edward VII). In January 1865 Spencer was made a Knight of the Garter, and when W. E. Gladstone formed his first administration in 1868 he was appointed lord lieutenant of Ireland. He was a surprise choice, given his relative inexperience, and initially took second place to the chief secretary, Chichester Fortescue (qv), who, unlike Spencer, was a cabinet minister. Spencer, however, was well received by Irish Liberal members, and although his role was primarily social and ceremonial his influence over Irish policy increased substantially during his term of office.

He supported Gladstone’s policy of land reform but found himself confronted with a wave of agrarian violence despite the implementation of the Land Act and the Peace Preservation Act in 1870. He repeatedly asked Gladstone for increased powers to deal with matters of law and order, including the suspension of habeas corpus so that suspected perpetrators of agrarian violence could be arrested without evidence. In 1871 there was a resurgence of the activities of the Ribbon societies, especially in Co. Westmeath; following the report of a Commons select committee, the coercive Westmeath Act was passed in June, allowing for the suspension of habeas corpus in the county. (Some modern commentators have suggested that this represented an overreaction to a small number of incidents.)

Despite Spencer’s firm policy towards public disorder, a demonstration in the Phoenix Park during the visit of the prince of Wales to Ireland in August 1871 ended in disorder when the police broke it up. In spring 1873 Gladstone introduced the Irish University Bill, an attempt to reform the Irish university system by creating a federated University of Dublin which would include the Catholic University and other institutions as well as Trinity College. This was opposed both by Trinity (which feared swamping by clerically dominated and substandard catholic institutions) and the catholic clergy led by Cardinal Paul Cullen (qv), who thought it did not guard sufficiently against the subversion of catholic students’ faith by non-catholic instructors. Spencer tried to convince the catholic clergy to support the Bill, and had a meeting with Cardinal Cullen on the subject, but he failed and the Bill was defeated in March 1873 through the combined opposition of Conservative and Irish Liberal MPs. In 1873 Spencer opened the Spencer dock in Dublin harbour on the north bank of the Liffey.

After the fall of Gladstone’s administration in May 1874, Spencer returned to the family estate in Northamptonshire. He had been appointed lord lieutenant of Northamptonshire in 1872 (he retained the post until 1908) and spent the period of Conservative government (1874–80) carrying out alterations at Althorp, the family seat, and shooting and hunting. (He was master of the Pytchley foxhounds in 1874, a position which he held on two further occasions.)

When Gladstone formed his second administration in April 1880, Spencer entered the cabinet as lord president of the council (1880–83). In May 1882 he returned to Ireland as lord lieutenant after the resignations of Lord Cowper (qv) and W. E. Forster (qv), with the mission of ending agrarian and political unrest by conciliatory measures. A few hours after Spencer’s arrival in Dublin, the newly appointed chief secretary, Lord Frederick Cavendish (qv), and the long-serving under-secretary, Thomas Henry Burke (qv), were stabbed to death by members of a physical force splinter group, the ‘Invincibles’. Spencer actually witnessed these ‘Phoenix Park murders’ from a window of the viceregal lodge, believing the distant figures to be holiday-makers engaged in a minor squabble. It would be wrong to suppose that this coloured Spencer’s attitude to Irish affairs, but subsequently for many nationalists he became the embodiment of a harsh law and order policy.

Under political pressure the Prevention of Crime (Ireland) Bill, introduced on 11 May 1882, gave the Irish government more stringent powers than it required or, in practice, employed. After becoming law (12 July) it was rigorously enforced. While the RIC and the magistracy were reformed, because of parliamentary and treasury constraints, neither was reformed as thoroughly as Spencer and his officials would have liked. Nationalist commentators, notably William O’Brien (qv) and T. M. Healy (qv) in the weekly newspaper United Ireland, claimed that several individuals executed for agrarian murders by ‘packed’ juries were innocent, though their credibility was reduced by their claims that the arrested Invincibles were innocent – a claim soon disproved by the confessions of the approver James Carey (qv). The most controversial of these cases was the Maamtrasna murder trial, where Myles Joyce (qv), one of the three prisoners sentenced to death, protested his innocence to the end. Spencer later admitted that the decision not to commute Joyce’s sentence ‘worried me dreadfully up to the last’ (Gordon, ii, 188). Nationalist reaction was typified by Joseph Biggar (qv), who scandalised Thomas MacKnight (qv), an admirer of Spencer, by declaring: ‘I will always call Earl Spencer a murderer. He has hanged an innocent man’ (MacKnight, ii). Biggar was charged with contempt of court after he repeated the accusation in a public speech, but the prosecution was dropped since he had attacked Spencer rather than the judges. It was subsequently revealed that the prosecution had withheld significant material from the jury, and the majority of commentators now believe that Joyce, and several co-defendants who served long prison sentences, were in fact innocent. United Ireland subjected ‘the red earl’ (so called because of his enormous red beard) to the sort of vitriolic campaign previously directed against Forster and subsequently extended to Arthur Balfour (qv). Spencer was portrayed as participating in his subordinates’ crimes and hiding skeletons in the closets of Dublin Castle; after United Ireland exposed several Castle officials as participants in a homosexual prostitution ring, Healy suggested that Spencer be elevated to the title ‘Duke of Sodom and Gomorrah’. Meanwhile, unionist commentators praised Spencer for the declining levels of political violence and admired his personal courage.

Spencer supported Gladstone’s proposals for franchise reform, local government reform, and further land legislation for Ireland. He favoured replacing the lord lieutenancy by a royal residence in Ireland. However, his final months in office were marked by sharp disagreements in the cabinet over the impending expiry of the crimes act. Spencer considered that some powers must be retained; in response, Chamberlain and others threatened to resign. An open split on this issue was averted only by a government defeat in the commons. He left office with the fall of Gladstone’s administration in June 1885; his first public function on returning to England was the unveiling of a statue of Lord Frederick Cavendish at Barrow-in-Furness. In July 1885 Parnell introduced a motion in the house of commons questioning Spencer’s handling of the Maamtrasna murders, and was supported by Lord Randolph Churchill. This cynical bid for Parnellite support by the Conservatives (who had previously opposed an inquiry) resulted in demonstrations of Liberal support for Spencer, but it also led him to believe that it was impossible to implement a long-term Irish policy from Westminster since each party had an incentive to undermine the other by bidding for Irish nationalist support. This influenced Spencer to support Gladstone’s newly announced home rule policy after the 1885 general election, and this support in turn played a significant role in Gladstone’s ability to carry the majority of the Liberal party and form his third government, in which Spencer was lord president of the council.

During the period of Liberal opposition from 1886 to 1892, Spencer was one of the most outspoken campaigners for home rule, despite unionist enquiries (uttered with varying degrees of derision) about why he thought men who had called him a murderer and a sodomite deserved to be entrusted with the government of Ireland. William O’Brien’s public declaration that he now realised Lord Spencer had been unfairly blamed for the actions of his subordinates and that he personally would gladly black Spencer’s boots as an act of atonement did little to console the peer.

On the formation of Gladstone’s fourth and final administration in 1892 Spencer was appointed first lord of the admiralty. When Gladstone resigned on 2 March 1894 he privately stated that, had the queen asked for his advice, he would have indicated Spencer as his preferred successor; however, the queen appointed Lord Rosebery as prime minister. Spencer retained the admiralty under Rosebery but left office on the fall of the Rosebery administration in June 1895.

Spencer subsequently served as a member of the prince of Wales’s council (1898–1901), keeper of the privy seal and a member of the council of the duchy of Cornwall (1901–7), and Liberal leader in the lords (1902–5). He received honorary doctorates from several universities, including TCD (1883), and was chancellor of Victoria University, Manchester (1892–1907). After the death of his wife in 1903, he began to suffer from ill health, and was severely incapacitated by a stroke in 1905. Shortly before the formation of a new Liberal administration, he died at Althorp on 14 August 1910, and was buried in the family crypt.

In July 1858 Spencer had married Charlotte Frances Frederica Seymour (d. 31 October 1903), the daughter of Frederick Charles William Seymour, himself a grandson of Francis, 1st marquess of Hertford. Lady Spencer was a woman of considerable beauty and great personal charm, and during her residence in Ireland came to be known as ‘Spencer’s Faery Queen’. The couple had had no children. Spencer’s half-brother Sir Charles Robert Spencer succeeded as 6th Earl Spencer.

A large collection of Spencer’s papers is held in the BL. There is a portrait of him in Dublin Castle.


John Morley, The life of William Ewart Gladstone (2 vols, 1905–7); Times, 15 Aug. 1910; Burke, Peerage (1912); WWW1; J. L. Hammond, Gladstone and the Irish nation (1938); Philip Magnus, Gladstone: a biography (1954); A. B. Cooke and J. R. Vincent, ‘Select documents: xxx Lord Spencer on the Phoenix Park murders’, IHS, xviii, no. 72 (Sept. 1973), 583–91; Peter Gordon (ed.), The red earl: the papers of the 5th Earl Spencer, 18351910, i, 1835–85 (1981), ii, 1885–1910 (1986); IHS, xxiii, no. 92 (1983), 381–3; Roy Jenkins, Gladstone (1995); NHI, vi (1996); Thomas MacKnight Ulster as it is (2 vols, repr. 2000)

Rosamunde’s Grail

Posted on January 28, 2013 by Royal Rosamond Press


Five days ago I went to the University of Oregon Library. I had on my great overcoat with the faux fur collar. I wore my barrett with a round golden wreath. The young students were amazed, for I looked like Santa Claus Goes to College. How about Woden.

Everyone wanted to know who I was, or, what was going on in my mind.

“I’ve come foe THE BOOK!” I silently spoke to them with a smile and wink.”

“THE BOOK! You know where THE BOOK is?” they cried in unison.
“Do I look like I know were the book is?”
“It is under the arm of the bull that liveth in the labyrinth. I have come to read the words, and free you all, so we will own wisdom and HIS STORY.”

Going to the elevator, it opened, and one of the four folks aboard, asked;

“Is this the first floor!” and they stared at this – GREAT MAN – that stood before them – like Saint Peter.

It was all I could do to stop myself from saying;

“Why no. This is the headquarters of the Priory de Sion. You do not belong here. How did you find this floor. You must come with.”

You can not GET THERE without being mad, I concluded as I ROSE ALONE to the top floor.

Finding the book in the maze, I saw a comfy chair at the end of the isle. Above this chair, was a window. Out the window, was a sunset, a colorful palet across the sky, with bare branched trees. I had arrived The Artist turned Scholar.

I sat down, and opened the book. It was there. I had found THE GRAIL.

The NAME of this book, that was written in the twelfth century, will be revealed in my book.

In 1997 I made a copy of the Cote of Arms seen above, in this library. Fair Rosamond Clifford is in this genealogy, as is her son, William Longsword. The Pont, Pontius, Ponteus line married into the De Toine family. You can trace these two Rose Lines to Rollo – and beyond. The Merovingians are here, as is David – and God. You will find Woden and other gods and goddesses.

Closing the book, I let out a great sigh, for I had recaptured the Jon Gregory I was before my daughter came into my life. I felt betrayed – and crucified because she is not with me in my great moement of victory. For there is no greater grief then to be a father whose child does not believe in him and HIS STORY, their HISTORY. That my kindred went to great lengths to have my daughter doubt me – even hate me – is more then one can bare. But, true Scholarship goes like this………just like this! This is not a work of fiction. I own the right clues!

You who have trespassed agsinst me, will make ammends, or HISTORY itelf, will bury you. For I will never be that alone in the world, again. For my Muse is with me, and, the woman I was once married to. Of course Christine Rosamond Benton, is here – and why not my mother, Rosemary! For I have been blessed i my Quest, with a beautiful mother, a besutiful sister, a beautiful wife, and a beautiful Muse. And, then there is my grandson, Tlyer Hunt, whom I nicknamed, SCEAF. You will find his name in THE TREE.

Once upon a time I believed I was blessed with a beautiful daughter. But, that was just one too many blessings for some folk. We shall see. Time will tell.

I even had a beautiful best friend named Bill Arnold, who comes from a famous Viking stock. I dedicate this post to him. Bill died on my eighteenth birthday.

William Fitz Pontius’ second son was named Dru, or Drago, which means ‘Dragon’ . There are three dragons in the other Clifford cote of arms. One is an infant, a NEWBORN.

I was born during a star shower when tens of thousands of stars came out of the eye of the constelation Draco. The Cliffords descend from the Kings of Troy. You are in the center of the Rose Labyrith. Behold…….THE BEAUTY!

Jon Presco

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Richard Fitz Pons[1] (c. 1080–1129)[2] was an Anglo-Norman nobleman, active as a marcher lord on the border with Wales.
He is described as a follower of Bernard de Neufmarche, and probably first builder of Bronllys Castle.[3] He started construction at Llandovery Castle[4] in 1116.[5]
[edit] Family
His father was Pons fitz Pons.[6][7]
He married Matilda Fitz Walter (died after 1127), daughter of Walter Fitz Roger, sheriff of Gloucester, and Bertha de Ballun.[8] Walter de Clifford was one of their four children.[9][10]
Richard was the heir of Drogo fitz Pons and Walter fitz Pons, both mentioned in the Domesday Survey. He is now taken to be their nephew.[11] They had lands in Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Pinxton in Derbyshire, Glasshampton in Worcestershire[12][13]

Walter of Gloucester (also Walter FitzRoger or Walter de Pitres) (d. c. 1129) was an early Anglo-Norman official of the King of England during the early years of the Norman conquest of the South Welsh Marches. He was a sheriff of Gloucester and also a Constable under Henry I.
1 Life
2 Family
3 Notes
4 References
[edit] Life
Walter of Gloucester was the son of Roger de Pitres, and his wife, Adeliza[a][1] and was the earliest to use the style “of Gloucester” in his family.[2] A landholder himself at the time of Domesday, by 1095 Walter had control of the bulk of the estates formerly held by Roger his father and Durand his uncle. In addition Walter acquired other estates by royal grants.[3] These estates were principally in four shires, Gloucestershire, Hampshire, Hertfordshire and Wiltshire.[3]
He was hereditary High Sheriff of Gloucestershire in 1097 and 1105-6.[4] Sometimes called Constable of England he may only have been constable of Gloucester Castle[5] He recorded as being a constable of the royal household of Henry I from 1114 on.[6] Walter erected or had a part in the erection of the castles of Bristol and Rochester as well as the Tower of London.[7] Walter donated Westwood to Gloucester Abbey for the soul of his brother Herbert and confirmed a grant of Colne by his father Roger.[1] He endowed the canons of Llanthony Priory in Wales with lands from his lordship of Beryntone and retired to the abbey in his old age where he died a monk and was buried in the chapter house,[7] about 1129.[8]

ID: I8624
Name: William LONGSWORD
Sex: M
Birth: 0900 in Normandy, France
Death: 17 DEC 0942
Occupation: 2nd Duke of Normandy
Note: Assassinated

Father: Rollo (Robert) RAGNVALDSSON b: 0870 in Norway
Mother: Poppa DE VALOIS b: 08??

Marriage 1 Sprota (Adela) DE SENLIS b: 0910 in Brittany, France
1. Richard I SANSPEUR b: 0933 in Fecamp, France
2. Raoul D’IVRY b: 09??

Marriage 2 Luitgarda of VERMANDOIS b: 09??
Married: 0935

Name: Rollo (Robert) RAGNVALDSSON
Sex: M
Birth: 0870 in Norway
Baptism: 0912
Death: BEF 0933 in Rouen, Normandy, France
Occupation: 1st Duke of Normandy
Of Norway
Rollo, baptised as Robert

Marriage 1 Poppa DE VALOIS b: 08??
Married: 0886
1. William LONGSWORD b: 0900 in Normandy, France
2. Robert of CORBEIL b: 08??
3. Crespina b: 08??
4. Gerletta b: 08??
5. Kathlin b: 09??
6. Adele of NORMANDY b: ABT 0917 in Normandy, France

Marriage 2 Gisela b: 08??
Married: 0912


Longsword, William (1196-1226), the natural son of Henry II. by “Fair Rosamund;” he was made Earl of Salisbury, and distinguished himself in the Crusades. His son, William (died 1250), was deprived of his earldom by Henry III., and was slain in the Crusades.

THE story of “Fair Rosamond” and her mazy Bower, though it cannot lay claim to that standard of authenticity which is generally required of historical data, has for so long occupied an honoured position in the realm of popular romance that, in a book professing to treat of mazes from a broad point of view, we cannot dismiss it quite as briefly as we might perhaps do in a book on English history.
“Fair Rosamond” has been stated, without very much foundation, to have been the daughter of Walter de Clifford, and is in consequence frequently referred to as Rosamond Clifford.
The story runs that King Henry the Second (A.D. 1133 to 1189) adopted her as his mistress, and that, in order to conceal his illicit amours from his Queen, Eleanor of Aquitaine, he conducted them within the innermost recesses of a most complicated maze which he caused to be made in his park at Woodstock. Rumours of her spouse’s defections having reached the ears of Queen Eleanor, that indignant lady contrived to penetrate the labyrinth, confronted her terrified and tearful rival, and forced her to choose between the dagger and the bowl of poison; she drained the latter and became forthwith defunct.
Various trimmings, more or less scandalous in nature,
p. 165
gathered around the central tale, as, for instance, that Rosamond presented Henry with the son who was afterwards known as William Longsword, Earl of Salisbury, but the main outline as indicated above was handed down intact for many generations.
The poisoning incident is not mentioned in the account given by a chronicler of that time, John Brompton, Abbot of Jervaulx (Yorks). It seems to have been first recorded by a French scribe in the fourteenth century.
Brompton’s version, given under the year 1151 in his “Chronicon,” is as follows:
“Sane idem rex Henricus quanquam multis virtutibus fuerat ornatus, aliquibus tamen viciis involutus personam regiam deturpavit. In libidine namque pronus conjugalem modum excessit. Regina enim sua Elianora jamdudum incarcerata factus est adulter manifestus, palam et impudice puellam retinens Rosamundam. Huic nempe puellae spectatissimae fecerat rex apud Wodestoke mirabilis architecturae cameram operi Daedalino similem, ne forsan a regina facile deprehenderetur. Sed ilia cito obiit, et apud Godestowe juxta Oxoniam in capitulo monialium in tumba decenti est sepulta, ubi talis suprascriptio invenitur:
“Hic facet in tumba Rosa mundi, non Rosa munda;
Non redolet, sed olet, quae redolere solet.”
It would appear from this account that the “bower” was a labyrinth of an architectural kind, perhaps like that mentioned in Chapter XIV as having been built at Ardres by Louis of Bourbourg in the previous century, not, as popularly believed, a maze of evergreens. It will be seen, also, that Henry did not long enjoy his clandestine delights, for Rosamond shortly died and was buried before the high altar of the nunnery church of Godstowe. Her death is believed to have taken place about 1176. It is possible that she had entered the nunnery some time
p. 166
before that. According to the contemporary annalist Roger de Hoveden her body was removed in 1191 by Bishop Hugh of Lincoln, on moral grounds, and was apparently re-interred in the chapter-house.
The imprisonment of Queen Eleanor, referred to by Brompton, was a consequence of her connivance at the rebellion of her sons in 1173-74.
Ranulph Higden, who lived in the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries, deals with the Henry and Rosamond story in the seventh book of his “Polychronicon,” and tells us that visitors to Godstowe Abbey used to be shown a wonderful coffer which had belonged to Rosamond. It contained figures of birds, beasts, fishes and boxing men, which, by clockwork or springs, were endowed with apparently spontaneous motion (Cista ejusdem puella vix bipedalis mensura, sed mirabilis architectura ibidem cernitur; in qua conflictus pugilem, gestus animalium, volatus avium, saltus piscium, absque hominis impulsu conspiciuntur).
Most of the subsequent chroniclers seem to have followed Higden in their relation of the story. By Tudor times the romantic and tragic episode had become a favourite theme in popular lore; it was enshrined by the Elizabethan poet Drayton in his “Epistle to Rosamond,” the bower being therein described as an arrangement of subterranean vaults. It achieved its greatest popularity, however, in the ballad form, and was printed, with several other “Strange Histories or Songs and Sonnets of Kinges, Princes, Dukes, Lords, Ladyes, Knights and Gentlemen, etc.,” in a black-letter volume written or edited by Thomas Delone (or Delorney) in 1612. Two editions of the ballad were represented in the collection of Samuel Pepys, under the title of “The Life and Death of Rosamond, King Henry the Second’s Concubine. And how she was Poysoned to Death by Queen Elenor.”
John Aubrey, in his “Remaines,” 1686, tells us that his nurse used to sing the following verses to him:
p. 167
“Yea, Rosamond, fair Rosamond,
  Her name was called so,
To whom dame Elinor our Queene
  Was known a deadly foe,
The King therefore for her defence
  Against the furious Queene
At Woodstocke builded such a Bower
  The like was never seen.
“Most curiously that Bower was built
  Of stone and timber strong.
An hundered and fifty dores
  Did to this Bower belong,
And they so cunningly contriv’d
  With turnings round about
That none but with a clew of thread

The Benton DNA Test

Posted on January 28, 2013 by Royal Rosamond Press

Christine 1986 Garth & Drew

I have been looking trough old e-mail and court papers. I found an obituary for Garth Benton, whose full name is Paul Garfield Benton, the same as his father. There is a DNA test for the Benton family. I just found a Francis Marion Benton who lived in South Carolina, and appears to have been named after Francis Marion ‘The Swamp Fox’. Did he fight alongside Francis and Samuel Rosamond, whose kindred were also named after Francis Marion.

Jon Presco

Copyright 2012


In May 2001 a group of BENTON Cousins provided the first DNA samples for the Benton DNA Project. Since that time, numerous matches have occurred proving the long-held belief that several of these cousins descend from a common ancestor which they cannot otherwise prove due to the lack of extant paper records.

If you descend from a Benton line, participating in this DNA project could help your research considerably and provide some much needed proof and direction for further research. The tests are done on the Y-chromosome which is passed from father to son, and he to his son, etc., thus participants must be male and must have the BENTON surname all the way down the line. If you are a female and wish to have your line participate in the Project, a male cousin, uncle, brother, etc., can provide the DNA for your line.

If you are interested in joining our DNA study, please contact the Project Administrator (above) for additional information. We have obtained a special group rate which is a lot less expensive than a research trip, believe me! No vital body parts are required – just a simple swab of the inside of the cheek and there is no discomfort at all. Results are available in about 60 days.

To join the Benton DNA Project, it would be very helpful if you can provide your Benton lineage back to your earliest known Benton ancestor, including birth, death and marriage dates and locations including wives’ information.  This information can be very valuable when comparing ancestry matches, helping you make connections with other participants who share your DNA.

Paul Garfield Benton II (- – 2012)


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American muralist, much loved father, brother and son, went home to be with the Lord on May 2, 2012, after a courageous battle with cancer.
He was a wonderful and kind man with incredible talent as an artist. His clients included the Getty Museum in Malibu, President and Mrs. Gerald Ford, Bob and Delores Hope, Danielee Steele and many others too numerous to mention. His heart will live on as part of his legacy and memories of him will live on in the minds and hearts of those who loved him and were touched by his life. To see some of Garths work, please visit his website at http://www.garthbenton.com.
He is preceded in death by his parents, Anne and Col. Paul G. Benton; grandparents, Rev. C.C. and Grace Benton, and John and Lillian Ellison. He is survived by his daughters, Jessica Benton Gruse, Bree Benton and Drew Benton; his sister, Alex Rogers and Sitah Valerye Cummings; nephews, nieces and many cousins.
A celebration of Garths life will be held at Conejo Valley Community Church located at 750 Erbes Road in Thousand Oaks at 11 a.m. on Saturday, May 26, where Pastor David Clack will be officiating.


William Benjamon Benton

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William Benjamon Benton  

Louanne_Ellison     (View posts)
Posted: 26 Jan 2003 8:23AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 12 Apr 2003 3:53AM GMT

Hi Sue,

We have been in contact before, but I lost how to get in touch with you.

Paul Garfield Benton is your grandfather John Manker Benton’s brother. In my last missive to you I said he was your father’s brother but when I checked with him, he told me I had gotten it wrong. He is your father’s first cousin.

Paul’s father’s name was Clarence Clinton? Benton, question because I don’t have my notes with me here in San Jose, CA, but in Santa Cruz, where Paul and his wife Anne Elizabeth Ellison are living with me. Anne is my mother’s, middle elder sister.
Clarence and his wife had another child, but she died as a toddler before Paul was born.

I have a number of your grandfather’s brother’s names, but know nothing about who they married, where they lived or if they had children. I would like to have any of that information. I bet Paul would love to contact more of his cousins if they are still living. He would also, like to hear from you and your father. His email is strawberryfields@mailstation.com.

Oh, I do know about a woman who is descended from one other of his brothers, but my notes about her are in Santa Cruz also. Won’t be back there til next weekend. I believe she still lives in McMinn Co.

Paul and Anne have 3 children (my cousins), Alexandra Elizabeth, who has 3 children, 2 boys and a girls, and 6 grandchildren; Paul Garthfield (Garth) who has 3 daughters (he is a famous muralist); and Valerie (Sitah), who has 3 children, 2 girls and a boy.

Paul believes he is related to the younger William Hart Benton the muralist, who was named after his great uncle William Hart Benton the senator. If there were any proof of that I know he would love to have it. I am stuck at William Benjamon Benton as I don’t know his parent’s names or antecedents.
Looking forward to hearing from you. My email is imiuru2@earthlink.net
Thanks for the post, Louanne

William Benjamin Benton of McMinn Co., TN  

Louanne_Ellison     (View posts)
Posted: 13 Dec 2002 6:01PM
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Apr 2003 7:53PM

It has been awhile since I wrote but I wanted to correct an error. I said that Paul Benton, my uncle, was a first cousin to Sue R., but actually he is a second cousin as he is a first cousin to John Rankin Benton. I wonder if they knew each other as kids, as Paul visited from NC with his father Clarence Clinton Benton often. John R and Paul have the same grandfather, William Benjamin Benton and grandmother, Martha Sliger.

Would be very interested in communicating with anyone from this line.\


Re: William Benjamin Benton of McMinn Co., TN  

leahellisoncole     (View posts)
Posted: 27 Jan 2009 8:20PM
Classification: Query


Hi Susan,

My cousins are also great grandchildren of William and Martha. Their father
Colonel Paul Benton is still living at 91 years.

Someone else is looking and I wrote to her:

Hi Annetta,

My William B Benton was born 5 March 1859 and died 27 June 1935 according to info from The Sliger Family Tree eksliger@aol.com. Will was married to a Martha Sliger. Another very sparse source gives a William Benton as being born in 1858 in Germanton, Stokes, North Carolina. North Carolina is where I believe my Will Benton is from, and that is the only connection I have right now. My Uncle Paul Benton is the grandson of Will Benton and Martha Sliger. Could your Dixie be Martha? The Sligers might know. they have a family reunion every year in Athens area. Perhaps my Uncle Paul might know. He is living with his daughter Alex and I believe her email is alex723@roadrunner.com. Oh, I have a list of William and Martha’s children. John Manker Benton (his child and grandchild, John Rankin & Sue), Susie Benton, Emma Benton, Mary Benton, George W. Benton, William Andrew Benton and my uncle’s father Clarence Clinton (Whistler) Benton. Are any of those your parents?

My JESSE HOBBS BENTON married LUCINDA HAMILTON August 11, 1836 in McMinn County, TN. Jesse was born January 11, 1814 in NC. In 1850 they were in Peavine, Walker County, GA. There were quite a few BENTON families living in Walker County, GA in 1850. In 1860 they were Baties Township, Benton County, AR. I have more info on the Benton families living in Walker County if anyone is interested.

I understand that the parents of William Benjamin Benton are Samuel Benton and Sarah Davis. Does anyone know the origination of Sarah Davis? Her parents and place/date of birth?

Francis Benton b.c1765 m. Selah > Francis Marion Sr. b.1795 Edgefield Co. SC m. Nancy COOLEY > Francis Marion Jr. 1834-1908 > Newton Elbert Benton Sr. b.1860
• Francis Benton b.c1765 m. Selah > John b.1791 Edgefield Co. SC d.c1869 Wood Co. TX m. Mary HUGHES > b.1820 SC d.1899 Wood Co. TX

Francis Marion Benton (1834 – 1900)
Found 10 Records, 7 Photos and 564,595 Family Trees
Born in Tennessee, USA on 1834 to Francis Marion Benton and Nancy Cooley. Francis Marion married Mary A Richardson and had 4 children. Francis Marion married Amanda Melissa Jones and had 4 children. He passed away on 1900 in Erath, Texas, USA.

Francis Marion Benton.

Birth: 15 Jul 1841 Tennessee.

Death: 2 Dec 1911 Lyon Co., Kentucky.

Burial Dec 1911 Macedonia Cem., Kuttawa, Ky.

Photo provided by Kenneth A. Allgood


Francis Marion Benton.


Married June 30, 1861, at Dycusburg, Kentucky.
No record of any children.

Civil War Vet.

Enlisted in November of 1861 as a private in the Union Army, 20th Kentucky Volunteer Infantry Company H., was mustered out in January of 1865, as a private, with a honorable discharge. Between the years of 1865 and 1911, he was a farmer.

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