A month ago a friend of the Sinclair family replied to my post on Ian Sinclair, where I make the case that he and other members of the Sinclair Clan ganged up on me, and, banned, censored, shamed me, and tried to defame me and my study of my mother’s maiden name. ROSAMOND! He wanted me to remove my testimony, and – drop dead! There was much fanfare to the Sinclair DNA test, then came arguments over their bloodline that I could not take part in because I do not share one drop of their precious blood. What happened to Freedom of Religion – in Europe? How many Men of God fled the Isles to America?
This exclusiveness may change with my discovery the Wilsons descend from the De Clifford family, and thus most of the Royalty of Europe. I just found this out – yesterday! In spite of all the people who did their damnedest to make me quit my research, I just made a stunning discovery 40 minutes ago. My blood-kin, Reverend John Wilson, is the subject of Hawthorne’s ‘The Scarlet Letter’. How timely with the appointment of Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. I will now read this book. I have a vision of me reading exerts of it in a Senate Hearing. Here is the Trunk of our Democratic Tree! Jesus forgives the woman accused of Adultery which is still seen as INNOVATIVE! Welcome to the The New World!
https://rosamondpress.com/2018/07/10/rosamond-clifford-and-reverend-william-wilson/
Ian Sinclair did not like me suggesting that my grandmother, Mary Magdalene Rosamond, was a player in the Rose Line Game, because, she is the only a human owner this name. Ian did not like me to quote Biblical STUFF, because he knew nothing about the Bible, and professed to be a Gnostic Priest of some kind. The Wilsons were real MEN OF GOD, who spoke God’s Words to real royalty, who were married in St. George’s Chapel, thus their real DNA was spliced together – by God’s Words! We will be hearing much about God’s Words in the fight over Legal Abortion. There is that – A WORD!
There is another A word that applies…….ALIEN. To put THE WORD of God in the ears of the Children of God, is still a scared responsibility that no one should take lightly. Dan Brown came out with his Da Vinci Code after the Sinclair’s and I had our row.
33 When an alien resides with you in your land, you shall not oppress the alien. 34 The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
I exchanged e-mails with Jimmy Dale Rosamond who is conducting the Rosamond DNA study, and who has strung together so many Roses! Jimmy is a straight shooter, and thus I have never brought his name into the Blood Feud – until now! WE are grounded in what is real. How many Royal People stood on the brass images of Wilson and his wife? How many royal shoes have worn down these images of a real man, and his real wife? Under this stone lies the bones, and the DNA of a Man of God, who knew this name ‘The Rose of Sharon’………..and thus the codex is………….ROMAN. There is a rose on the box and five wheels. Roman of the Rose!
As to forgiving Ian Sinclair?………To hell freezes over! He had a bagpipe player backing him up, and, I had none! How fair is that? This is why I have Victoria Bond blowing on her pipes to her hearts content. I and Ian Fleming are in the same Rosy Tree, that is full of Hollywood Stars, as you shall see. Elizabeth Rosemond Taylor was suggested for the role of Bonnie Butler. Folks still see her as the real Scarlet.
God loves a good Love Story! This is why we see William Wilson’s wife next to him. Did he secret her bones into a Catherdral named after the Gallant St. George? It might be of great value to take a peek. Are we looking at another candidate for the true Shakespeare who is in Elizabeth Rosemond Taylor’s rosy tree? After hearing the voice of their Creator in Eden, there was a Abolishment, a Abandonment, a Atonement. Then came the sweet whisper of love in loving ears. Here is the blood of life. There is the Lover’s Prayer, that they may be forgiven and returned to Paradise.
John Gregory Presco
Juliet:
‘Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
What’s Montague? It is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What’s in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other word would smell as sweet;
So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call’d,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title. Romeo, doff thy name,
And for that name which is no part of thee
Take all myself.
Romeo:
I take thee at thy word:
Call me but love, and I’ll be new baptized;
Henceforth I never will be Romeo.
Abigail Shakespeare (Webb)
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| Birth: | June 06, 1515 Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire, England |
| Death: | 1595 (79) Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire, England |
| Immediate Family: | Daughter of Sir John Alexander Webb, Jr. and Margaret Webb Wife of Richard Shakespeare Mother of Anna Green; Margaret Shakespeare; Robert Shakespeare; Richard Shakespeare; John Shakespeare and 3 others Sister of William Webb; Sir Henry Alexander Webb, I; Mary Arden and Agnes Webb |
| Added by: | MMM on October 21, 2008 |
| Managed by: | Clifton (Clif) Shelby Crawford and 30 others |
| Curated by: | Terry Jackson (Switzer) |
| The Early Webb Families | |
| Although earlier Webb information is available, we will start the Webb story in the late 1400s in villages near Stratford, Warwickshire, England. If Stratford sounds familiar, it’s because of William Shakespeare. He was born in Stratford-Upon-Avon and that’s the same town. In fact, there are some very interesting family connections between the Webbs and the Shakespeares. The picture below is the birthplace of William Shakespeare. His grandmother was named Abigail Webb, and she is an ancestor of the American Webbs. | |
John Gregory Presco
Ann Wilson (Webb) 
| Gender: | Female |
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| Birth: | 1550 England |
| Death: | November 13, 1612 (62) Windsor and Maidenhead, United Kingdom |
| Immediate Family: | Daughter of Sir Henry Alexander Webb, I and Grace Webb Wife of Rev. Dr. William Wilson Sister of Humphrey Webb; Sir Alexander Alexander Webb, I; Agnes O’Dell / Hill / Arden; Henry Webb, Jr.; Mary Arden Webb and 8 others |
Sir Henry Alexander Webb, I MP
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Le Roman de la Rose (English: The Romance of the Rose) is a medieval French poem styled as an allegorical dream vision. It is a notable instance of courtly literature. The work’s stated purpose is to both entertain and to teach others about the art of romantic love. Throughout the poem, Rose is used both as the name of the titular lady and as a symbol of female sexuality. The other characters’ names also function both as regular names and as abstractions illustrating the various factors that are involved in a love affair.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Hawthorne
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_de_la_Rose
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex
The Scarlet Letter: A Romance, an 1850 novel, is a work of historical fiction written by American author Nathaniel Hawthorne.[1] It is considered his “masterwork”.[2] Set in 17th-century Puritan Massachusetts Bay Colony, during the years 1642 to 1649, it tells the story of Hester Prynne, who conceives a daughter through an affair and struggles to create a new life of repentance and dignity. As she struggles to raise her rambunctious daughter, Pearl, on her own, the father of her unborn child is revealed and is shown to be experiencing severe guilt. Through the scorn and judgment of the citizens and Roger Chillingworth (Hester’s husband), the two decide to remain together. Throughout the book, Hawthorne explores themes of legalism, sin, and guilt.
In this painting, The Scarlet Letter by Hugues Merle, Hester Prynne and Pearl are in the foreground and Arthur Dimmesdale and Roger Chillingworth are in the background (painting by Hugues Merle, 1861).
The following are symbols that are embedded in The Scarlet Letter:
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The Scarlet Letter A: In the beginning of the novel Hester’s letter A is a representation of her sin and adultery. However, as time progresses, the meaning of the letter changed. It now represented, to some, able. It states “The letter was the symbol of her calling. Such helpfulness was found in her—so much power to do, and power to sympathize—that many people refused to interpret the scarlet A by its original signification. They said that it meant Able, so strong was Hester Prynne, with a woman’s strength” (129).[23]
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Meteor: The meteor shaped as an A serves as another symbol in the book. To Reverend Dimmesdale the meteor is a sign from God who is revealing his sin to everyone and causes him to be ridden with guilt. However, others perceived the letter to be a symbol for angel.[23]
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Dimmesdale’s name: Dimmesdale’s name itself also holds symbolism. His name contains the root word “dim” which evokes the feeling of faint, weak, and gloom. This represents the constant state Dimmesdale finds himself in. His life has dimmed itself every since his sin causing his light of life to fade and dim.[23]
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Roger Chillingworth’s name: Roger Chillingworth’s name is also perceived to have symbolism. This is because his name contains the word “chilling” which reveals the cold, chilling demeanor.[23]
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Pearl: Pearl symbolizes the embodiment of her parent’s sin and passion. She is a constant reminder of the sin her mother can’t escape from. It is mentioned she “was the scarlet letter in another form; the scarlet letter endowed in life” (84).[23]
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Rosebush: The rosebush is mentioned twice within the course of the story. At the beginning, it is first viewed as natures way of offering beauty to those who leave and enter the prison as well with a glimmer of hope to those who inhabit it. The rosebush is perceived as a symbol of brightness in a story filled with human sorrow. [23]
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The Scaffold: The scaffold is mentioned three times throughout the novel. It can be viewed as separating the book into the beginning, middle, and end. It symbolizes shame, revelation of sin, and guilt for it is where Hester received her scarlet letter as punishment and where Dimmesdale experience his revelation through the meteor.
Nathaniel Hawthorne was born on July 4, 1804, in Salem, Massachusetts; his birthplace is preserved and open to the public.[3] William Hathorne was the author’s great-great-great-grandfather. He was a Puritan and was the first of the family to emigrate from England, settling in Dorchester, Massachusetts before moving to Salem. There he became an important member of the Massachusetts Bay Colony and held many political positions, including magistrate and judge, becoming infamous for his harsh sentencing.[4] William’s son and the author’s great-great-grandfather John Hathorne was one of the judges who oversaw the Salem witch trials. Hawthorne probably added the “w” to his surname in his early twenties, shortly after graduating from college, in an effort to dissociate himself from his notorious forebears.[5]
Sinclairs Keep Attacking Me
“You have directly cut and pasted from my website – http://www.StClairResearch.com I’ve reported your website to Google and they’ve removed this page from their Google Search results under the U.S. Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
I’m now reporting you to WordPress as you’re in open violation of all laws regarding copyright infringement.
Steve St. Clair
St. Clair Research”
Above are photos of Ian Sinclair who worked hard for his clan to get me and another skeptic evicted from a Knight Templar yahoogroup. He did not like my posts that showed a bevy of real Knight Templars with the name de Rougemont, the speculative source of my family name Rosamond. Other researchers have pointed out the Sinclair family has no connection to any Knight Templar, but for the fact they helped persecute them.
No one cared about the Sinclair, or their DNA, until the authors who sued Dan Brown, suggested the Sinclair family was a Rex Deus family, and thus their DNA contained the same DNA that course through the ‘Son of God’.
To prove their divine origins, they fabricated a slick silicone funnel that they hope will slide newcomers past the doubters and distracters, down, down, down, into Clan Headquarters, where you are bid to Adore Them, and enrich their coffers.
This is harassment! They sell tours! These are salesman. Buyer beware. The internet does not belong them. It is not infected with their alleged Holy Bloodline. These are British Bully Boys up in their tree house urinating on anyone who come hither without a worthy gift!
It looks like they manufactured a facsimile stone to the one that can not be read that proves William Saint Clair was a Knight Templar. This is fraud – that I will report, and continue to report on.
I suggest certain members of the Sinclair Clan hire a boat and get their bully-ass over to Syria and try to stop the atrocity. Be brave!
Real British Chivalry is dead in the water. These fleas on the rats, have had their day, and are going down with the ship. Bon voyage!
Because the French are backing up my President, I will put the De Rougemont Templars in President Obama’s field of honor!
I am one man with one vote. They hide behind a curtain in Oz.
“If you were really great and powerful, you would keep your promises.
Dorothy, who used to be Rena Christensen.
Jon Presco
The Sinclair DNA Fraud
I will be posting on the Sinclair DNA testing.
Jon
Just as he uses true historical figures as characters in his story “Young Goodman Brown,” Nathaniel Hawthorne writes into his narrative of “The Scarlet Letter” the “stern divine” John Wilson, a minister who came to America in 1630. A strong figure of Puritan intolerance he appears in Chapter III in the first scaffold scene. However, Hawthorne describes him in such a way as to suggest his Puritanical ineffectiveness and punitive nature:
withal a man of kind and genial spirit….an attribute [that] was…a matter of shame than self-congratulation with him….There he stood, with a border of grizzled locks beneath his skull-cap; while his gray eyes, accustomed to the shaded light of his study , were winking, like those of Hester’s infant, in the unadulterated sunshine. He looked like the darkly engraved portraits which we see prefixed to old volumes of sermons; and no more right than of those portraits would have to step forth, as he now did and meddle with a question of human guilt, passion, and anguish.
Alluding to the judges of the witchcraft trials, Hawthorne suggests the Puritanical sanctimony in the Reverend Wilson who admits that he overrides the concern of Mr. Dimmesdale that it is a wrongdoing to question her in “such broad daylight, and in the presence of so great a multitude.” But, Mr. Wilson, continues, he has explained to Dimmesdale that the wrongdoing is in the “commission of the sin, and not in the showing of it forth.” He, then, bids the Reverend Dimmesdale to step forward and question Hester. But, despite his pleas, Hester refuses. Mr. Wilson cries “more harshly than before,”
Woman, transgress not beyond the limits of Heaven’s mercy!
The Reverend Mr. Wilson appears again at the mansion of Governor Bellingham and questions Hester about her right to raise the little girl. When he asks Pearl who “made thee,” Pearl astonishes him by replying that she was plucked from the wild rose bush by the prison. After this response, the Reverend Wilson feels the child should be taken from Hester, believing the mother wishes to “make a mountain bank of this child.”
When Roger Chillingworth suggests that they guess the father of the child, the “good Mr. Wilson” suggests that it would be “sinful” to pursue the matter; better to “pray and fast upon it.” Mr. Wilson does not appear again until the second scaffold scene in Chapter XII, and then he does perceive Mr. Dimmesdale through the darkness even though Dimmesdale barely restrains himself from speaking:
The venerable Father Wilson continued to step slowly onward, looking carefully at the muddy parthway before his feet.
And, finally, in the third scaffold scene, “the venerable John Wison,…stepped forward hastily to offer his support” to Reverend Dimmesdale, but the young minister “repelled the old man’s arm.”
Symbolic of Puritanism and its ineffectiveness in assuaging the soul, the Reverend Mr. Wilson is part of the tableaux that present the punitive character of Puritanism and its ineffectiveness.
WOW …..Shawn Sinclair ( Martin Adoption ) and Steve StClair together on a radio show The Hidden History Hour lol .I found the show to be very uninformative other than the fact that Shawn admitted an adoption in his family line..teehe I tried to call in but of course he would not answer
Have a listen here
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sofiatemplar/2012/12/30/the-truth-about-sinclair-dna
The truth about Sinclair DNA
http://www.blogtalkradio.com
This show will discuss the new results of Sinclair participants and will feature Steve St.Clair. Arch rivals come to a truce for the better of the Clan and our historical responsibility of
http://www.stclairresearch.com/content/Sinclair-DNA-Videos.html
According to tradition, William St Clair, (William Sinclair) 3rd Earl of Orkney, Baron of Roslin and 1st Earl of Caithness built Rosslyn Chapel. A later William Sinclair of Roslin became the first Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Scotland.[3] The St Clair, later Sinclair, Earls of Rosslyn or Roslin have also been connected to Templarism in Scotland, but Mark Oxbrow and Ian Robertson in their recent book, ‘Rosslyn and the Grail’,[4] note that the St Clair of Rosslyn testified against the Templars at their trial in Edinburgh in 1309. Dr. Louise Yeoman points out that the Rosslyn/Knights Templar connection is false, having been invented by 18th century fiction-writers, and that Rosslyn Chapel was built by William Sinclair so that Mass could be said for the souls of his family.[5] In Michael T.R.B Turnbull’s book Rosslyn Chapel Revealed he states that “Eighteen years after the suppression of the Order, Sir William Sainteclaire, in the role of a Crusader(not Templar), made a brave and honourable bid to fulfil the wishes of his late monarch, King Robert The Bruce”.[6] He then explains that he and his wife Lady Margaret Ramsay of Dalhousie produced a son (also Sir William)to succeed him as the 8th Baron of Rosslyn. Turnbull States that “His father could never have been a Knight Templar, as his wealth and marriage would have broken two of the three Templar vows — Poverty and chastity”.[6]
My Rival – Ian Sinclair
Ian Sinclair and I belonged to a Knights Templar yahoogroup where he worked hard to get me banned. He claimed a wheel had come off my cart. Above is a photo of Ian with Star Dove who drove around America blessing Masonic sites. Did this tiny woman bless Benton family? I do not see any copyrights on this material. Let me know if you object to me posting this Magical Mystery Tour.
Above is a photo of Ken Kesey and Izzy who Iread poetry with at the Granary. Izzy is an old Prankster who went with Ken on his Search For Merlin Tour in 1991. Do you see a patern here, and why Ian would want to silence me, make me invisible – just like the kindred of Jesus and the real Templars? Ian has elected me. Thanks!
Jon Presco
LONDON, Aug 6, 1999 — Ken Kesey and his psychedelic troupe of jesters, the Merry Prankster’s, took their historic intredpid journey to England today . Their magic bus “Further”, which had been shipped several weeks ago from San Francisco, safely navigated the Atlantic ocean and arrived for the first time on the European continent.
“The Search for Merlin Tour,” the Prankster’s official agenda while they will travel England and the British Isles for the next month, is a remarkable continuation of a legacy which began with the first bus trip in 1964 – a legendary journey that spawned the “Electric Kool-Aid Acid Tests” and was at the heart and soul of a psychedelic revolution.
The tour is being sponsored by Channel Four Films in London, which is producing a TV speries looking back on the Summer of Love. Two of the segments will focus exclusively on the Prankter’s travels in UK.
http://www.castlesinclairgirnigoe.org/faq.html
http://knightstemplar.tv/sir-ian-sinclair-on-the-future-of-freemasonry.html
Knights of the Solar Cross
Unto Thee, great God,
belong mystic rites and sacred song;
lowly bending at thy shrine.
Hail, thou Majesty Divine.
Glorious Architect above
source of light and source of love,
here thy light and love prevail:
Hail! Almighty Master, Hail!
Our Dearly Beloved Readers,
The following will give you just a taste of what we underwent while in Scotland during our near 55 days stay in bonnie Scotland! Nov 15, 2004 – Jan 5, 2005. We are very happy to see our report being released for the year of 2005 – the Chinese Year of the Bird (Rooster) – the year of Advanced Spiritual Teachings! Bless you 7×7,000 – Pleiadean Style.
Great changes are in store for the Earth and our Star Guides wish to keep our beloved mission members and readers as up-to-date as possible. So though the outer worldly political situations do indeed look glum, the inner is teeming with vast changes slated to bring glorious results! It is y|our destiny!
LET US COMMENCE WITH SOME TEMPLAR SAGAS
The Knightly Armor of the Templar should be complete in every respect, and should be fully explained to the novitiate as it is piece by piece buckled upon him. Sir Knight, thou art now in form and semblance, and by declaration of principle, and, we trust, in spirit, a true Knight Templar: as such, it is your sworn duty to aid us in endeavoring to make this world a Temple fit for the abiding place of the Great Architect of the Universe. Receive this sash; its color is an emblem of sorrow and mourning for the miseries and sufferings of humanity. Receive, also, and wear this Celtic cross of blue, the jewel of the Order; deserve it by the services you shall hereafter render to the good cause in which you now claim to be a chief and leader.
Ironically, the truly interesting part of the Knights Templars Saga began only after the order was liquidated. According to the generally accepted view, the order went underground, developing a deep animosity for monotheistic religions and the Church in particular and, in the long term, transmuted into the organization known today as Freemasonry. The Masons’ anti-fundamentalist plastic religious philosophy and involvement in revolutions and political movements against corrupt governments and royalty is a consequence of their Templars ancestry. In other words, the Knights Templars still survive in the present, under the name of Freemasonry. This is why the Catholic Church, Orthodox Christianity and Corrupt Governments spread false tales about them and otherwise persecute them today, attempting to fool the masses into thinking Freemasonry are Satin worshippers. Those who reach the highest degrees of Masonry are granted Templar inspired titles such as “Guardian of the Temple.”
The Aquarian Perspective is that the Templars and the Masons are the Earthly branch of the Knights of the Solar Cross which Champion TRUTH, rather then religions which are formed to bind men to dogma. In the United States, some lodges that convene under the name of the Knights Templar are affiliated with Masonry. Masonry, on the other hand, continues the Templars’ foremost tradition of opposing false religions and corrupt governments, as well as being actively avaricious. Advanced lodges rely on extra-terrestrial assistance. Many of the Grand Masters were also Ambassadors from the Interplanetary Confederation sent to keep an eye on this developing wayward planet. There are, as is always the case in a dualistic world still caught in the good versus evil scenarios, evil men disguised as Masons and Templars, which in Truth they are not that at all!
Our deployment to Scotland for 2 full months just after the last U.S. Presidential implant to run America, was so we could delve more deeply into the beginning of American Politics and Government. This connection occured during our USA Blessing Expedition that carried the Mother Mission thru 26 U.S. states! Specifically the state where our Masonic connection was renewed was Georgia, in the fine city of Savannah.
Now we see why we were deployed to this unique power center destined to bring World Peace. Here, at Rosslyn Chapel near Edinburgh, Scotland. The herstory of Occultism in Scotland gives a complete picture of what we were doing there at this time of world herstory.
Near the end of our 3 month long, 26 State USA Blessing Expedition, we arrived in Denver, Colorado and were directed by the library angels in one of the largest Barnes and Nobel in the USA to a book by Mark Amaru Pinkham titled, “The Return of the Serpents of Wisdom.” http://www.serpentsofwisdom.com
STARDOVES Pilgrimage to Savannah, Georgia
February 2004
During our 2004 USA Blessing Expedition
During our USA Blessing Expedition through 26 U.S. States! The state where our Masonic connection was renewed was Georgia, in the fine city of Savannah.
This image of the Savannah Masonic Bldg.
was made in the early 1800’s.
This image of the Savannah Masonic Bldg.
was taken by Merk Feb. 2004
STARDOVES were given a special tour of the Masonic Temple. The first activities of the Masons in Savannah were traced to 1790. According to George Koeln, 33°, Brother Jacobs arrived in Savannah in 1790 via shipwreck from Kingston Jamaica. He settled, became a teacher at a Hebrew School, and for a time earned an income by conferring ritualistic degrees. He was known to have conferred degrees in Augusta, Washington Co., and upon his return to Savannah, assisted in the constitution of the first Lodge of Sublime Masons in Georgia in 1802. This was the first officially recognized Scottish Rite body outside of the famous events in Charleston occurring the previous year.
For more Georgia Scottish Rite History, please refer to http://www.savannahscottishrite.org/contents.htm
You may also take a virtual tour via the computer by clicking here: http://savannahscottishrite.org/welcome%20to%20the%20temple.htm
We drove our trusty Lincoln Continental Signature series from California to Florida.
http://www.stardoves.com/STARDOVES_Pilgrimage_to_Scotland.html
Sinclair War of the Roses
Steve Sinclair would not have attacked me and worked hard to get my opinions off the search engines IF I had thrown my “Rose Line” in with his “Roslin” that means “Red head”. Steve sits high up in his rosy tower and gleans the net of roses that are not attached to his surname. He types these two names into google every morning upon awaking
“SINCLAIR ROSE LINE”
When he sees a rose line that does not mention Roslyn Chapel, but does mentions the Knight Templars, he launches his flying Gnostic Apes to destroy the opposition.
I know Scottish people with red hair. In 1996 I copyrighted all notions that the “Rose Line” pointed to family of folks with Rose Names, and ignored the Meridian Line implications – because it was a dead end. I did so because folks who were authoring books about the Holy Grail – four years before Dan Brown published The Davinci Code – were thinking aloud on some yahoogroups, that a family who came to own the Rose Line Names were descendents of Jesus and Mary Magdalene.
“Excuse me Mr. Moderator, but my grandmother was Mary Magdalene Rosamond and her daughter, Rosemary is my mother. Is it possible I am candidate for a Rex Deus family?”
“No, this means you are banned from this groups and all your posts – erased!”
The Sinclair yahoogroup banned me and erased all my posts. How long ago was that? Eight years. Hence, there are Rose Lines galore! As long as you attach the Sinclair Aphid to your rose line, you will not be molested!
Now, I own the copyright on the idea of a human Rose Line and will cut and paste examples of folks who are not honoring copyright laws.
Above is a book the Master of Falcon Art college and Louvain authored. He employs a rose to sign his name. The Swan Brethren wore a similar rose, but it was closed. This is Gottschalk de Rosemondt, a Renaissance theologian, and perhaps an art teacher. That is the Habsburg cote of arms drawn next to the rose, which suggests this book belonged to a Habsburg. I suspect Charles Quint, who looted the Americas of gold after slaughtering the native Americans, owned this book.
Let us look at these names associated with Roslin. There are four versions of the name ROSAMOND, ad two forms of the name ROSEMARY. I will be posting many times what these names mean to many authors who put their theories on the internet. None of these people own these names. I am disqualified because my family owns rose names. According to a thousand theories regarding the Rose Line of Jesus and Mary, bad people did bad things to make ‘The Rose Line’ invisible – until now! People doing bad things to me and my family – is not applicable!
These so-called scholars do not play by their own rules. Only when the rosy road has been weeded of rivals, will everyone arrive at the truth the Sinclairs are ‘The Chosen Ones’. What choice do they have?
There is only one group of people who employed these tactics, and they were the Nazis.
In 1987 I declared I was a Nazarite and immersed myself in a river. I consider myself to be a Jew.
Dan Brown did not “invent” the rose line. He and his wife lurked about like aphids in un-named yahoogroups I was a member of.
What people like Steve and Dan do is impede real scholarly investigations. Forinstance, Rosemondt was the executor of Pope Adrian’s Will. Adrian was sent to Louvain by Margaret of York whom around, the real War of the Roses, swirled! All records of Adrian’s papacy have disappeared! Adrian rescued the Knights of Saint John from Malta!
In closing, I believe Steve Sinclair will do, and say anything in order to get his monkey paws on the ‘Ruby Line Slippers’. Have at it Steve! But, leave other manic folks alone to go where they will go, and record whatever they see.
My mother, Rosemary, told her four children this;
“There’s a great big wide world out there! Have at it!”
The Sinclair research has made everyone’s world – real small -especially their own! They are tadpoles swimming in murky a DNA pool while claiming to descend from world explorers! The proof is in the pudding. Case closed!
Jon Presco
Roslin
First name origins & meanings:
Spanish: Pretty rose
Latin: A flower
French: Little red-haired one
Scottish: Redhead; explosive
First name variations: Rosalinda, Rosaline, Roseline, Rosalyn, Roselyn, Rosey, Rosilind, Rose-Lyn, Rosalind, Rosa, Rosie, Rosey, Roz, Rozsi, Rosalie, Rosalee, Rosalia, Rosetta, Rosette, Rosina, Rosena, Rasia, Rois, Rosita, Rosebud, Rosabell, Rosly, Rosamund, Rosmund, Rosemonde, Rozamund, Roanee, Roanna, Rosaleen, Rosellen, Roselle, Rosella, Rosemary, Rosemarie, Chara, Charo, Rose, Rosselin, Roslyn, Rose-Lynn, Rosalyn, Rosalind, Rosalinde, Rosalinda, Rozling, Rosling
“Dan Brown simply invented the ‘Rose Line’ linking Rosslyn and Glastonbury. The name ‘Roslin’ definitely does not derive from any ‘hallowed Rose Line’. It has nothing to do with a ‘Rose Bloodline’ or a ‘Rose Line meridian’. There are many medieval spellings of ‘Rosslyn’. ‘Roslin’ is certainly not the ‘original spelling’: it is now the most common spelling for the village.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_of_York
In June 1476, he (Adrian) started his studies at the University of Leuven, where he pursued philosophy, theology and Canon Law, due to a scholarship granted by Margaret of York, Duchess of Burgundy, becoming a Doctor of Theology in 1491,
Margaret of York (3 May 1446 – 23 November 1503) – also by marriage known as Margaret of Burgundy – was Duchess of Burgundy as the third wife of Charles the Bold and acted as a protector of the Duchy after his death. She was a daughter of Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York, and Cecily Neville, and the sister of two Kings of England, Edward IV and Richard III.
Duchess Isabella of Burgundy, the mother of Charles the Bold, was through her blood-ties and her perception of Burgundian interests pro-English. As a granddaughter of John of Gaunt, she was consequently sympathetic to the House of Lancaster. She believed that Burgundian trade, from which the Duchy drew its vast wealth, depended upon friendly relations with England. For this reason she was prepared to favour any English faction which was willing to favour Burgundy. By 1454, she favoured the House of York, headed by Margaret’s father, Richard, 3rd Duke of York. Although the King of England, Henry VI, was the head of the House of Lancaster, his wife, Margaret of Anjou, was a niece of Burgundy’s bitter enemy, Charles VII of France, and was herself an enemy of the Burgundians; the Duke of York, by contrast, shared Burgundy’s enmity towards the French, and preferred the Burgundians.
In 1507 Adrian was appointed tutor to Emperor Maximilian I’s (1493–1519) seven year old grandson, Charles, who was later to become Emperor Charles V (1519–56). In 1515 Adrian was sent to Spain on a diplomatic errand, and after his arrival at the Imperial Court in Toledo, Charles V secured his succession to the See of Tortosa, and on 14 November 1516 commissioned him Inquisitor General of Aragon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wars_of_the_Roses
Read more on FamilyEducation: http://baby-names.familyeducation.com/name-meaning/roslin#ixzz2dVdB3x9e
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/1/post/2013/03/on-steve-st-clair-and-henry-sinclair.html
http://www.theroseline.co.uk/index.php?main_page=infopages&pages_id=12
http://www.theroseline.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&zenid=9a7f6b2e2f405b701e8ecf8bf4c0d0dd
Jesus has been named the “Rose of Sharon” and in medieval times his Mother, Mary, was called “Santa Maria della Rosa”. Could this suggest a Christic Rose lineage? It has been suggested that certain Scottish families, such as the Sinclairs of Roslin (founders of Rosslyn Chapel 1446) and the royal Stewarts, are descended from such a Christic bloodline. Intriguingly, Sir William Sinclair, a former Earl of Rosslyn, signed his name St. Clair of Roselin and ancient Scottish charters were witnessed by a certain Roger de Roselyn. Furthermore, one of the telluric leylines traversing Scotland has been named the “Rose Line” which appears to pass through the medieval
Chapel at Roslin (Rose line?).
In the story of the holy grail, perhaps there is much more to the Scottish connection, as found in the Da Vinci Code novel, than has hitherto been revealed.
http://www.sacredconnections.co.uk/holyland/jesusmarymag_iona.html
http://www.theroseline.co.uk/index.php?main_page=infopages&pages_id=97
To celebrate filming at the Chapel near Roslin, nestled below the Pentland Hills, just six miles south of Edinburgh, friends and local people from the Roslin Community hosted a party.
The cast and film crew including Ron Howard were duly invited to attend on the 28th September 2005. Entertainment was organised for their guests in the tradition of true Scottish hospitality, with traditional music and dancing. Excited children waited patiently……. but sadly due to heavy work schedules and fatigue, no actors were present at the welcoming party………..
The request to the band was Seal’s passionate ballad “Kiss From A Rose” that sings about a fabled tower and an efflorescent rose that brings light at the end ……..”Now that your rose is in bloom, A light hits the gloom on the grave”.
Every lady present at the party was gifted a single Red Rose, the timeless flower that is indicative of ardent Love, given in memory of the special lady with the double 13th letter of our alphabet in her initials….. …M M……. the power of Love overcomes everything.
Affirmation may be found in Corinthians 13:13 as we enter the final
Rose Line is a fictional name given to the Paris Meridian and to the sunlight line defining the exact time of Easter on the Gnomon of Saint-Sulpice, marked by a brass strip on the floor of the church in the Priory of Sion mythology, where the two are conflated.
The fictional name Rose Line was also popularized by Dan Brown in his 2003 novel, The Da Vinci Code.[1]
Contents
[hide] 1 Priory of Sion Mythology
2 Dan Brown’s The Da Vinci Code
3 See also
4 References
Priory of Sion Mythology[edit source]
The 1967 Priory of Sion document Au Pays de la Reine Blanche[2][3] states that “Rennes-les-Bains is located precisely on the Zero Meridian, which connects Saint-Sulpice in Paris” adding that “the parish of Rennes-les-Bains guards the heart of Roseline”, being a reference to Saint Roseline de Villeneuve. Au Pays de la Reine Blanche also referred to “the line of the Zero Meridian, that is to say the red line, in English: ‘Rose-line’”.[4] Later in 1978, Pierre Plantard also referred to the “red line of the meridian, the ‘Rose-Line’…since Roseline, the Abbess of the ‘Celle aux Arcs’, celebrates her feast day on 17 January… and her legend is well worth a read”.[5]
The document entitled Le Serpent Rouge – Notes sur Saint-Germain-des-Près et Saint-Sulpice de Paris[6] conflates the Paris Meridian with a gnomon in the Parisian church of Saint-Sulpice marked in the floor with a brass line, which it calls the “Red Serpent”.
Philippe de Chérisey in his document Stone and Paper recounted a story that a Roseline was also the name of his acquaintance: “there was a Roseline I knew who died on 6 August 1967, on the Feast of the Transfiguration, when leaving the zero meridian by car.”[7] Another document by Philippe de Chérisey entitled Circuit,[8] in Chapter VII, adds the detail that Roseline was killed in a car accident whilst working as a double on the Television film La beauté sur la terre (1968),[9] a film that also starred Philippe de Chérisey under his stage name of Amédée.[10] The story about Roseline in Circuit also involves an imaginary character named Charlot who appears frequently throughout Circuit and both characters are patently imaginary beings appearing in one of Philippe de Chérisey’s surrealist compositions.
Chapter XIII of Circuit is devoted to the Zero Meridian, with de Chérisey claiming it was established by Till Eulenspiegel (before Jean Picard), listing key sites that it passes through (in a fictional work attributed to Abbé François-Pierre Cauneille). In this chapter Roseline is called ‘Fisher Woman’, preferring herself to be known as “Di O Nysos, DON” (“dondon” is French slang for “fat woman”), an otherworldly being who organises funerals for the dead who are still living in her new Citroen 2CV (the make of car she was killed in).
Dan Brown’s The Da Vinci Code[edit source]
The term Rose Line has been popularized by Dan Brown in his novel The Da Vinci Code as an alternate name for “the world’s first prime meridian”,[1] identified as the Paris Meridian.[11] Brown’s novel also conflates this meridian with a gnomon in the Parisian church of Saint-Sulpice marked in the floor with a brass line,[12] as did the 1967 Priory Document Le Serpent Rouge – Notes sur Saint-Germain-des-Près et Saint-Sulpice de Paris. The Paris Meridian actually passes about 100 metres east of the gnomon,[13] which according to author Sharan Newman and a sign in the church was “never called a Rose-Line”.[12][14] A St Sulpice booklet dating from 2000, in the page about the history of the gnomon describes the brass line as “a meridian”, it does not use the term Roseline or Rose Line.[15] Author Paul Murdin describes such sun lines as a “Meridian”, or meridiana.[16]
Brown identified the Paris Meridian with the alleged bloodline of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene as well as Rosslyn Chapel, the central part of his novel. Quoting from The Da Vinci Code:
“Rosslyn Chapel’s entrance was more modest than Langdon expected. The small wooden door had two iron hinges and a simple oak sign, Roslin. This ancient spelling, Langdon explained to Sophie, derived from the Rose Line meridian on which the chapel sat; or, as Grail academics preferred to believe, from the ‘Line of the Rose’ — the ancestral lineage of Mary Magdalene…”[17]
Quoting Mark Oxbrow and Ian Robertson from their book Rosslyn and the Grail:
“Dan Brown simply invented the ‘Rose Line’ linking Rosslyn and Glastonbury. The name ‘Roslin’ definitely does not derive from any ‘hallowed Rose Line’. It has nothing to do with a ‘Rose Bloodline’ or a ‘Rose Line meridian’. There are many medieval spellings of ‘Rosslyn’. ‘Roslin’ is certainly not the ‘original spelling’: it is now the most common spelling for the village.”[18]
At the climax of the novel, the protagonist follows the line of Arago medallions to the Louvre museum, where (according to the book) the Paris Meridian passes beneath the so-called Inverted Pyramid in an underground mall in front of the museum. Following the tradition of esoteric interpretations of this meridian, the novel hints that this is the final resting place of the Holy Grail. The fact that the meridian passes near the Inverted Pyramid is also noted in the book Le guide du Paris maçonnique by Raphäel Aurillac, who likewise ascribes some deeper, esoteric significance to this.
In the Louvre area, the meridian line marked by the Arago medallions actually runs through the museum and the great courtyard at a spot considerably to the east of the Inverted Pyramid. The medallions in the museum are behind ticketed access points, while the Inverted Pyramid is located in a public mall next to the museum.
Other landmarks said to lie on the line are Arques and Conques,[19] the Lady of the Roses cathedral in Rodez, St. Vincent’s in Carcassonne, and the Church of St. Stephen’s in Bourges, and Rennes-les-Bains.
While Dan Brown presents the Rose Line as “the world’s first prime meridian”,[1] the idea of establishing a Prime Meridian dates back to antiquity,[20] with suggested meridians running through Rhodes or the Canary Islands. When Greenwich was adopted as the universal zero longitude in 1884[21] (not 1888 as the novel says), it had at least nine rivals besides Paris (Berlin, Cadiz, Copenhagen, Lisbon, Rio, Rome, Saint Petersburg, Stockholm, and Tokyo).
04/01/2013 2:45pm
That’s a good question (to me at least).
My position is that there is not as yet, known to me, any factual evidence that:
A. Prince Henry was in North America
B. The Sinclair Family were in any way associated with the Knights Templar (other than at the trials in which William Sinclairs son testified against them in a minor way and his father testified on their behalf that they were good Christians)
C. That Rosslyn Chapel has any association with the Templar Order
D. That Sinclair blood runs in Native North American veins
But, if I’m reading your comment above correctly, you think of it as case closed. I can tell you absolutely, I don’t. There are many reasons I don’t think the area is exhausted for study, and I’m short on time. It’s not because there’s some loose evidence that interests me. It’s not because I know something others don’t. I’ll have to explain that later or I’ll be late for a conference call.
I’ll close this way – if the government and scientific groups thought that way, we’d be done with scientific exploration. No evidence of water or life on Mars? Let’s stop going.
Jason Colavito link
04/01/2013 3:04pm
Thank you for answering the question, Steve. As you know, it is impossible to prove a negative, and there is no way to disprove conclusively that Henry Sinclair came to America. But in the absence of any evidence, what choice do I have but to say that the story appears to be groundless and to therefore act in alignment with that evidence? Similarly, one might ask why we do not continue to seek out phlogiston (it MIGHT be there!) or test the body for the effects of the Four Humours (you MIGHT have black bile, after all). Surely, (and this is a joke) you should be testing your family for its unique blend of Humours, for which there is as much evidence as for Henry Sinclair’s voyage.
The answer is that there are better explanations, and the weight of evidence favors those. It’s not just that there is no evidence for the Sinclair myth, it’s that there is better evidence in favor of radically different explanations, namely that the story emerged from a 1558 hoax, was developed by Scottish nationalists as a counterpoint to the Welsh Prince Madoc story, and was exploited by racist Victorians and anti-establishment New Agers. All of that can be demonstrated with very good evidence, and nothing similar can be marshalled in favor of the other view. If every line of evidence points in the same direction, this is a strong indication of truth.
Of course, new evidence could change that, and you are welcome to look for it. But you shouldn’t be offended if someone says you are looking for that evidence if that’s what you’re doing.
I don’t mean this to sound argumentative, but I am honestly asking: You sound as though the mystery will remain open for you forever. Would anything serve to convince you that this story is, in all likelihood, a fiction? If so, what would that be?
Self-serving Sinclair Legend Goes Over Cliff
I am trying to determine how old the Jesus in Cornwall Legend is. I suggested to Virginia Hambley that she get a DNA test going to see if she is kin to the Phoenicians. We do not have to prove the Hambleys of Cornwall are kin to Joseph of Arimathea, Jesus, and Knight Templars, because there is a established legend that will not go away. Not like certain Sinclairs, Virginia has nothing to prove, and would not be self-serving in the gathering of evidence. Her first name alone involves her in the Santa Claus legend, and thus, her plate is full. Santa is here to stay! However, this may not be the case of the Sinclair Legends that have been evicted from THE TOWER by the Merry pranksters, no less.
Here is a Sinclair Myth Buster site that gives DNA results proving six self-serving Sinclairs are not related to one another, and the real Sinclairs. It looks like all the wheels came off the Rosy Sinclair Bus, because, the ancient Sinclairs helped persecute the real Knight Templars, some who held the place-name de Rougemont.
In 1987 I was invited to get on The Bus with Keny Kesey and ride round Eugene Oregon in the Eugene Celebration.
Jon Presco
http://sinclairfactsfictionanddna.blogspot.com/
CLAN SINCLAIR DNA
Sinclair DNA MythBusters..shows it the way it is
Below are 6 people who are all involved with the Sinclair Clan and or the Sinclair DNA research. Please note that the DNA of these 6 men do not match one another,other than a few in the same haplogroup but the markers are way off from each other. Not one is related to any of the others, SO just WHO in this lot is a Sinclair of the Sinclair Family of Roslin,Caithness,and Orkney…….Let me tell you….NOT ANY of them !!!!!
According to tradition, William St Clair, (William Sinclair) 3rd Earl of Orkney, Baron of Roslin and 1st Earl of Caithness built Rosslyn Chapel. A later William Sinclair of Roslin became the first Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Scotland.[3] The St Clair, later Sinclair, Earls of Rosslyn or Roslin have also been connected to Templarism in Scotland, but Mark Oxbrow and Ian Robertson in their recent book, ‘Rosslyn and the Grail’,[4] note that the St Clair of Rosslyn testified against the Templars at their trial in Edinburgh in 1309. Dr. Louise Yeoman points out that the Rosslyn/Knights Templar connection is false, having been invented by 18th century fiction-writers, and that Rosslyn Chapel was built by William Sinclair so that Mass could be said for the souls of his family.[5] In Michael T.R.B Turnbull’s book Rosslyn Chapel Revealed he states that “Eighteen years after the suppression of the Order, Sir William Sainteclaire, in the role of a Crusader(not Templar), made a brave and honourable bid to fulfil the wishes of his late monarch, King Robert The Bruce”.[6] He then explains that he and his wife Lady Margaret Ramsay of Dalhousie produced a son (also Sir William)to succeed him as the 8th Baron of Rosslyn. Turnbull States that “His father could never have been a Knight Templar, as his wealth and marriage would have broken two of the three Templar vows — Poverty and chastity”.[6]
Mel Sinclair below President of Clan Sinclair USA
DNA
E1b1b1a2 13 24 13 10 15 16 11 12 12 13 11 30 15
Rory Sinclair below Past President Clan Sinclair Canada
DNA
R1b1b2 13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 30
Ian Sinclair below Ian of Nosshead Girnigo Castle
DNA
I1 13 22 14 10 13 14 11 14 11 12 11 29
Niven Sinclair below Clan Sinclair
DNA
R1b1b2 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 13 30
Steve StClair below StClair/Sinclair DNA Research Guy?
DNA
R1b1b2a1b5 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29
Shawn Douglas Sinclair below of Clan Sinclair History and DNA and Ulvunger DNA Site
Shawns father was ADOPTED, his fathers, father’s surname listed as MARTIN
Shawn Douglas Sinclair (Colin Sinclair, b.c. 1802, Argyll, Scotland) R1b1b2a1a4 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30
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Sunday, 30 September 2012SINCLAIR DNA of CAITHNESS CONFIRMED
DNA Results for our Newest Testee
Testing has been completed on our newest participant John Thurso ( Sinclair ) 3rd Viscount Thurso of Ulbster in the county of Caithness Scotland
http…
://www.cracroftspeerage.co.uk/online/content/index834.htm?zoom_highlight=lord+thurso
Mr Thurso,or Sinclair descendes from the Sinclair line of Ulbster Caithness:
http://www.fionamsinclair.co.uk/genealogy/Caithness/Ulbster.htm
DNA
R1b1a2a1a1a4….With SNP markers U106 / S21 / Z1 / Z8 / Z346+ / Z343- or = to R-Z346* and this is as far as the dna can go for now untill new SNP markers are discovered.
Mr. Thurso’s markers match the large Sinclair dna tested group from Caithness,Orkney ,and Shetland that was refered to as lineage #4
A note follows from Dr James Wilson a Genetic researcher and a founding member of Scotlands DNA
http://www.scotlandsdna.com/about.html
“Sinclair genetic genealogists tend to use 390=24 vs 390=23 as shorthand for at least ten to twenty other markers which differ between one group of Sinclair Y chromosomes (S21+/U106+) and another. These differ by many SNPs as well as the STR markers. John Thurso belongs to the S21+ lineage, specifically to the Z346+/S512+, Z343-/S387- subgroup, which also includes many of you with DYS390=23, however his DYS390 happens to have backmutated to 24.
Given that studies by Dr Jim Wilson show that 10 of 14 Sinclairs from Orkney who are unrelated to fifth cousin or beyond, that is 71%, are also in the S21+ group and those that have been tested further also match John Thurso, who is a scion of the Caithness Earldom line, we can now say we have identified the Y chromosome of the Sinclair Earls of Orkney and Caithness.
There are some other S21+ Sinclair lineages not in the Z346 subgroup, but it seems that the ancestors of Sinclairs in these groups, along with the S145/L21 and other lineages must have adopted the surname at some point in the past and do not descend in the male line from the Earldom lineage.
Sequencing by Jim Wilson has discovered a number of novel recent Y chromosome SNPs which we hope will help to identify branches within the Earldom genealogy.”
So this now proves the DNA of the Sinclair family that traces back to the Sinclairs of Rosslyn, with the famous Rosslyn Chapel in Roslin Scotland.
http://web.undiscoveredscotland.com/roslin/rosslynchapel/
Many thanks to the research team that put all this together,and special thanks to Dr. Wilson, Mr John Thurso for stepping up and testing for us, and Shawn Sinclair for having the nerve to ask Mr Thurso to do the test, and getting that done and reported on.
My own DNA markers here,that are very close to the testee and prove we share a common ancestor.
R1b1a2a1a1a4 SNP markers U106/S21/Z8/Z1/Z346+/Z343-…….R-Z346*
13 23 14 11 11-14 12 12 11 13 13 29 16 9-10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15-16-17-18 11 10 19-23 17 14 19 17 38-39 12 12 11 9 15-16 8 10 10 8 10 10 12 22-23 15 10 12 12 16 8 12 22 20 13 12 10 12 11 11 13 12
Thanks All Rob Sinclair
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Thursday, 28 June 2012StClair Sinclair DNA Research
SORRY LITTLE MAN STEVE StCLAIR
Seems Steve StClair , the loud mouth from StClair/Sinclair DNA Research Group has run out of DNA research and has comitted his time to trashing myself and others on the internet. Its a sad thing to see a grown man/child turn to such lowlife ways,simply because he has been thrown out of the Sinclair family tree and landed on his head. I know it must hurt to find out the truth regarding your own DNA Steve StClair but it is what it is. As you have said yourself Steve DNA does not LIE, and it clearly tells the truth with your own DNA markers and that is that YOU are NOT in any way related to the Sinclair/StClair NOBLE family line of Scotland. TOO much SCOTCH does not make you a SCOTT,it only encourages you to post your rediculouse blogs….lay of the booze. The research of the Alexander SinKler/StClair line of Virginia has run into a BRICK WALL and they are stuck in America and do NOT trace back to Scotland in any way. I firmly believe this line took the name SINKLER|/StClair in America….now please move on with your miserable little life Steve and leave real research to real Sinclairs……
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Saturday, 5 May 2012Using DNA to Grow Your Family Tree
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Thursday, 29 March 2012A Sinclair Family of Clyth / Lybster Caithness / DNA U106 / Z8 / Z1
We have a Sinclair who is of this family and has DNA Tested, results are SNP Z8/Z1
Author and Documentary maker Ronald Rayner is the world’s leading authority on the history of the travels in Glastonbury, and Cornwall, England, of the Prophet Jesus, and His Great Uncle, Joseph of Arimathea. Ronald Rayner recounts the story from his own books, about the Discovery of the Jesus Scroll, by his ancestor, Crusader Knight ‘Rayner the Fleming’. Crusader Knight, Rayner the Fleming, discovered the Jesus Scroll whilst building what are known as the Crusader Steps down from street level to the area of the Tomb of Holy Mary, in Jerusalem. Rayner the Fleming decided to make a gift of the scroll to England’s King Stephen. However, the King could only read and understand Norman French. Fellow Knights offered to carry the scroll to the only place in the world known to translate Middle East languages to Norman French, and that was the Monastery of Kiev, Ukraine. Ancestors of many Knights were descended from the Vikings who settled in both Kiev, and Novgorod, Ukraine. Knights were happy to enjoy an opportunity to return to their roots, where they knew they were assured of a warm welcome. Plus a handsome reward when they returned with the translation of the rare scroll to King Stephen in England. After receiving and reading the translation of the Jesus scroll from the Knights, the King passed the Scroll onto the care of Roger Clinton; a special gift, to celebrate Roger Clintons Consecration into the position of Bishop of Coventry, in 1127. Joseph of Arimathea was a Master Mariner whose ships traded with all the busy Ports around the Mediterranean Sea, where Joseph was known as the Tin Man. His dominant position trading, and bartering ingots of tin transported from his smelters in the West of England, in exchange for all manner of luxury goods; gold grain, incense, silks, beaten silver, and much more, made Joseph rich and very popular. Joseph took Jesus, and his own son Adnam Josephus, around the same age of Jesus, to Glastonbury to benefit from the Druid education there, and to keep the boys safe from the Roman terror that would slaughter women and children indiscriminately. It was during the return journey that the secret knowledge passed to Joseph, by Jesus, that set Joseph on a course planning the missions on which the Disciples were sent after the Rapture. Joseph of Arimathea, Mary Magdalene together with other Disciples fled Judea, Mary to France, Joseph to Glastonbury in A.D. 38 where, together with the Disciples that travelled with him, they built the first Christian Church outside Jerusalem, at Glastonbury, where Joseph owned land. Joseph dies in A.D. 81, and the Church he built survived at Glastonbury until it was destroyed by fire in the year 1184.
http://www.greatdreams.com/jesus2.htm
CHRIST in BRITAIN
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The study of Jesus in Britain touches on the Royal family, the establishment of the Church, Paul’s visit to Britain, and even the founding of the Roman church.
Various and many historical documents indicate that, after Jerusalem, the first Christian church was established in England. It’s founder, and founder as well of many seminaries, was Joseph of Arimathea, the uncle of the Virgin Mary. He was Jesus’ great uncle. Joseph was a rich merchant with a large fleet of ships that ran the tin trade for the Roman Empire, between England and the Mediterranean.
As Jesus’ great uncle, Joseph became Jesus’ Guardian (by Law, as next of kin) when Mary’s husband Joseph died early in Jesus’ life. He took Jesus with him on his journeys to Glastonbury, England. The place we know as Avalon; the King Arthur Avalon. This is the location of the first Christian church built above ground.
To paraphrase an old saying, “All Christian roads lead to England.”
The following information was taken from two of the many volumes on the subject of Jesus’ spending time in Britain. They are, the Traditions of Glastonbury, by E. Raymond Capt, and Did Our Lord Visit Britain, by C.C. Dobson.
ABSENT EVIDENCE
If Jesus was indeed absent from Judea from age twelve to age thirty, as some believe, we should be able to find evidence that this was the case. In Matt 17 Jesus was being asked for the Stranger’s tax. They seemed aware that Jesus lived in Capernaum. They didn’t know if he was exempt from the tax, having been gone for a long time.
John the Baptist, who was Jesus’ cousin, and spent time with Jesus as they grew up, was very uncertain as to Jesus’ identity at his baptism. If Jesus had spent the “lost years” in Judea, he and John would certainly have seen each other at the three yearly Feasts.
Then we find two accounts of Jesus’ identity being questioned. “Is this not Joseph’s son?” “Brought up here?” (Luke 4) “Is not this the carpenter’s son?” (Matt 14) And in John 1 we find that Nathaniel, who only lived five miles from Nazareth, doesn’t know Jesus. Capt says that Nathaniel was from Cana.
JESUS’ VISITS
Of Jesus’ visits to England, scattered evidence abounds. Here’s a short scenario from C.C. Dobson
“As a boy He was brought merely for a visit by Joseph of Arimathea on one of his voyages. Later as a young man He returned and settled at Glastonbury for the purpose of quiet study, prayer, and meditation. Here He erected for Himself a small house of mud and wattles. ” Dobson goes on to present historical evidence.
In a letter to Pope Gregory, St.Augustine states that there was a church “constructed by no human art, but divinely contructed (or by the hands of Christ Himself), for the salvation of His people.”
The historian, Gildas, says Jesus’ “Light and precepts” were “afforded…to this island during the …last year of the reign of Tiberius. Tiberius retired to Caprae in A.D. 27.
William of Malmesbury includes in his writings the contents of a letter given by King Ina to Glastonbury, 700 AD.”To the ancient church, situate in the place called Glastonbury (which Church the Great High Priest and Chiefest Minister formerly through His own ministry, and that of angels…..” This confirms Gildas’ statement that Jesus had a ministry at Glastonbury.
The historical records called the Domesday Surveys, also bear witness to Jesus’ presence in Glastonbury. These surveys state that Glastonbury contained 12 hides (160 acre parcels) of land that “have never paid tax.” This was because the King Arviragus gave these parcels to Joseph of Arimathea when he arrived in England in 37 AD.
TRADITIONS
Four of the many traditions of Jesus coming to England are discussed in Capt’s book.
Ancient carvings on the stone arch of Place Manor Church has an insignia of an anchor, a lamb and cross. The accompanying pictographs tell the story of Jesus and His uncle coming to Place for tin.
Another traditional story is that of Jesus teaching the miners of Cornwall how to smelt tin from ore.
Old Cornwall mining Ordinance maps show two interesting names. “Corpus Christi” (Body of Christ), and “Wheel of Jesus” (wheel is a Cornish name for mine). Also found in abundance in Cornwall’s mining area are “Tunic Crosses.” These crosses picture a Christian cross on one side and the image of a young lad dressed in a short tunic; obviously not a picture of a crucified or risen Christ.
This quote from Capt relates the Mendips mining area to Joseph and Jesus. “Traditions among the hill folk of Somerset relate that Joseph, after first seeking tin from the Scillies (islands) and Cornwall, came to the Mendips and was accompanied on several occassions by the boy Jesus. At the parish Church of Priddy, high on top of the Mendips, they have an old saying: ‘As sure as our Lord was at Priddy.’ And a carol sung be the children of Priddy begins: “Joseph was a tin merchant, a tin merchant, a tin merchant, and goes on to describe him arriving from the sea in a boat.”
Much has been written about the Lost Years of Jesus. Many accounts place him in India. One South American tradition sounds very much like Jesus visiting that continent. In fact, many say that the complete and speedy success of the Spanish invaders was due to this tradition; that the Visitor prophsied that He would return.
Consider. If Joseph had a fleet of ships, that gave Jesus access to worldwide travel. Do not doubt for even a second that world travel to ALL lands was possible. There is abundant evidence to prove the fact.
The traditions of Glastonbury and Cornwall form the following scenario:
Joseph of Arimathea was an uncle of the Virgin Mary, being a younger brother of her father. He gained his wealth as an importer in the tin trade, which existed between Cornwall and Phoenicia. On one of his voyages he took Our Lord with him when a boy. Our Lord either remained in Britain or returned later as a young man, and stayed in quiet retirement at Glastonbury. Here he erected for himself a small house of mud and wattle. Later Joseph of Arimathea, fleeing from Palestine, settled in the same place and erected a mud and wattle church there.
The contents of these several pages on the Cradle of Christianity will be found to over lap. That can’t be helped, as the whole topic takes in many areas of study which all relate importantly to each other. So the study of Jesus in Britain touches on the Royal family, the establishment of the Church, Paul’s visit to Britain, and even the founding of the Roman church.
http://americangallery.wordpress.com/2011/07/01/suzannah-sinclair-1979/
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going through sudden change
experiencing upheaval
having plans disrupted
being surprised
undergoing a crisis
having routines shaken up
being in chaos
releasing
exploding
having an emotional outburst
erupting in anger
crashing through ego defenses
breaking through pretense
letting everything go
falling down
being humbled
experiencing a crash
toppling from the heights
having a downturn in fortune
suffering a blow to the ego
having a revelation
suddenly realizing the truth
exposing what was hidden
having a burst of insight
seeing through illusions
getting the answer
seeing everything in a flash
The media was in full swing to greet Kesey and the Pranksters as they arrived at Stonhenge. There were a handful of newspaper journalists and photographers, as well as a BBC film crew competing with their rival Channel Four film crew.
Kesey waxed philosophical about the origins of the stones, and agreed that there could be some extra-terrestrial influence in their construction. On the drive to Stonhenge, Kesey and the bus witnessed some strange spherical crop circles in the surrounding fields. Most of the circles appeared lopsided and asymetrical.
Kesey suggested that these crop circles were created by “sleepwalking aliens.”
“This only happens once every 1000 years,” Kesey said about the magic bus Further being amongst these ancient mystical stones. Using a handheld radio, Kesey communicated with Babbs who was on the bus parked in an adjacent farm field a half-mile away.
As Kesey gave the word, the bus moved down the road. From the vantage point of the stones, the bus could be seen moving in the distance. The sun gleamed off its multi-colored roof, and gleamed through the gaps of the ancient monument as though it were a giant stone prism.
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The meteors are coming!