In 1987 Marilyn bid me to get a reading at the Berkeley Psychic Institute when I was in the Bay Area. I agreed, but was highly skeptical. A young woman began the reading by saying this;
“You own your own creation – You Died!”
In 1988, I went back to the rock I fell on, and climbed the top. It was a scene out of Tommy. You can see the cave I would later see The Tree of Life in, as I composed The Lion of God. My kin, Mother Mary Dominique went to Italy to visit the sacred sites of Saint Francis. She had visions, a relative still had not published. I suspect he is a devout Catholic, and these visions are not the orthodox. Meher Baba entered the real cave of Saint Francis, and had visions.
“The cave we found was an ideal spot and perfectly suited to Baba’s requirements. Herbert had thought out everything with such care that there was nothing left to be desired. Herbert is always very meticulous and careful in all he undertakes. The light was beginning to go a little as we entered the woods. It was just after sunset. I remember the birds and their song dying away gradually.
We settled Baba in and he told us that no one must look at him and, above all, not to touch him.
“It was arranged that Herbert and Chanji were to keep watch outside the cave during the night, to be relieved by Kaka and myself at 9 o’clock the next morning. Baba said that Kaka and I were to go to mass at 7 A.M. the next morning and then we were to kiss the Tomb of St. Francis. We bade them goodnight and found our intricate way out of the woods.
“After mass we shouldered our rucksacks and toiled up the streets through Assisi to the hills of Monte Subasio. As we got out of town, it began to get warmer and warmer.
“Poor Kaka was laden down, and not in such good training as I, so we had to stop from time to time for him to rest and get his breath and cool off. At last we arrived, a little late —about 9:15, and we were glad to reach the cool shade of the wood where we found Herbert and Chanji waiting for as after a wakeful night.
“Nothing had transpired and there had been no interruptions of the calm and peace which pervaded the woods. We settled down to our vigil outside the cave. Herbert and Chanji returned to Assisi to rest.
“The sun rose higher, but we were well shaded from the heat by the trees. An intense calm was everywhere, but the woods were alive with birds whose song was deafening. As if in memory of St. Francis, they seemed to throng around us. Butterflies were often near; several lit on our hands and bodies.
“Gradually it grew warmer, and even in the deep shade, one felt the heat of midsummer.
“Towards midday I heard sounds from inside the cave. Forgetting Baba’s instructions about not looking at him, I saw him stand up with his eyes shut and face the sun. He made strange noises. Not daring to look again, I lay quiet.
“At one o’clock he clapped his hands. We pulled away the branches from the entrance. Taking the board he spelt out directions, telling Kaka to go to Assisi and ask Herbert and Chanji to be with him at 4:30, but that I was to call him there.
“Baba came out of the cave but told us not to come near him or touch him. He walked about alone in the woods for half-an-hour and then went into the cave again.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1527475
Spiritual Work With Saint Francis
Posted on June 17, 2019 by Royal Rosamond Press
Saint Francis and The Perfect Master
Posted on December 24, 2014by Royal Rosamond Press
Old Highway Route 399
Posted on November 10, 2015 by Royal Rosamond Press
My mother Rosemary told me her mother, Mary Magdalene Rosamond wanted to see me before she died. I suspected she was going to anoint me – her favorite grandchild – and did not see her. Aunt Lillian told m she was close with the Theosophical Society in Ojai, where her brother lived. Mary and I lived together on Greenville in Westwood when I was seven. A woman came to meet me.
I moved in with The Loading Zone. James Taylor found a large Victorian in Oakland. I lived in the attic where my brother-in-law came. The woman with him said;
“There’s a gold aura around that man!”
When I was twenty, James was leaving books on the Indian religion. I wanted to go to India. James put up a poster of Baba, and I saw how he suffered. I used to beat my head against the wall for hours when I was two. Rick Chapman and I have much information to share.
Rena danced for the Royal Ballet and taught modern dancing in Bozeman.
John
https://www.dawn.com/news/1527475
Mother Mary Dominica Wieneke
Posted on February 5, 2014 by Royal Rosamond Press
Here lies the hoarded love the key
To All the treasure that shall be
Come fated heart the gift to take
And smite the sleeping world awake.”
Here is a video that contains a photo of Mother Mary Dominica Wieneke, Major Superior of the Sisters of Saint Francis of Dubuque. Her cousin, Mary Magdalene Wieneke-Rosamond, was my grandmother, the mother of Rosemary Rosamond.
Above is an amazing photo of the groundbreaking ceremony for Briar Cliff College that is located on the Missouri River overlooking the states of South Dakota and Nebraska. I might do a painting of this scene because more than likely there are more than twenty of my kindred in it. My grandmother Mary is above in white.
Look at those beautiful children who want their shot at life even though they know they are crippled. They are filled with hope. How can anyone who claims they are a Christian, talk about taking away hope from any child who suffers?
Jon Presco
SISTERS OF THE THIRD ORDER OF ST. FRANCIS OF THE HOLY FAMILY (OSF)
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SISTERS OF THE THIRD ORDER OF ST. FRANCIS OF THE HOLY FAMILY (OSF). The order was founded to care for the wounded of the Austro-Prussian War and a CHOLERA plague. (1) In 1860 four members of the Holy Cross Sisters of Strasbourg, France came to Herford, Germany to operate an orphanage. One was Josephine Termehr who made her final vows as Sister Mary Xavier Termehr in 1862. When the sisters were recalled from the orphanage in 1864, Sister Xavier refused and established a new order of sisters with encouragement from the local pastor and bishop.
As the superior of the new order, Sister Xavier became Mother Xavier and the order took its name from St. Francis of Assisi. In 1875 the sisters were expelled, along with all religious orders, from Prussia by Bismarck. They moved from New York City to Iowa City at the invitation of Rev. William Emonds, pastor of St. Mary’s Parish. In 1876 they opened Mount St. Mary’s Orphanage. Deeply in debt and increasingly at odds with Emonds, a group of eighteen sisters, seven novices and four postulants came to Dubuque in 1878, at the invitation of Bishop John HENNESSY, to start the diocesan orphanage. (2)
The vacant HOLY TRINITY CATHOLIC CHURCH at 8th and White became their first Dubuque home. One year later the sisters and twelve orphans moved to the Duncan House on Davis Avenue. This became ST. MARY’S ORPHAN HOME. The sisters also accepted responsibility for SAINT MARY’S SCHOOL and five of their number began supervision of the domestic department at St. Joseph’s College.
The Sisters built their motherhouse, later IMMACULATE CONCEPTION ACADEMY near the orphanage on Davis Street in 1881. (3) A larger motherhouse was constructed in 1925 at its present location on Windsor Extension. The sisters established a mission in Chowtsun, China in 1931, but were forced to leave by the Communists in 1947. In 1965 a mission was established in Chile. (4) The Holy Family Hall, an infirmary, was added in 1961 with a novitiate wing built later. The Franciscans have carried out a wide range of service in Dubuque.
In 1949 the Dubuque Franciscans built XAVIER HOSPITAL. (5) They have taught in HOLY TRINITY CATHOLIC CHURCH, ST. MARY’S CATHOLIC CHURCH, SACRED HEART CHURCH, and WAHLERT CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL. In addition, the Sisters operated MARY OF THE ANGELS HOME for workingwomen, the Saint Francis Home for the Aging, the domestic departments of the Archbishop’s residence, and STONEHILL CARE CENTER.
The decision was made in 1981 to consolidate services at Dubuque’s two Catholic hospitals to contain healthcare costs and eliminate duplication. Xavier Hospital took on the task of housing for the elderly. Sister Helen HUEWE, who had been the president of Xavier, transitioned to the same role at MERCY MEDICAL CENTER from 1986 to 1997.
In 1989 the Sisters opened the SHALOM RETREAT CENTER.
Mirroring the activities of other religious orders, the Franciscans during the 1990s and beyond focused on closing the School of the Americas which it said trained human rights violators, opposition to the death penalty racial injustice, immigration concerns and issues relating to women. Members of the order protested police brutality in Chicago. (6)
Historical Highlights of the OSFs in the Dubuque Area (7)
1864–Order begins in Herford, Germany
1875-OSFs emigrate to Iowa City
1878-OSFs move to Dubuque at the invitation of Bishop Hennessy; make residence in old Holy Trinity Church at 8th and White
1881–OSFs open Sacred Heart School; live in motherhouse on Davis St.
1884–Mary of the Angels (former home of Bishop Loras) opens as home for working girls
1897–OSFs open Holyt Ghost School
1905–St. Francis Home for the Aged opens
1907–Academy of the Immaculate Conception opens
1910–OSFs open Holy Trinity School
1925–Sisters move into Mount St. Francis on Windsor Ave.; Immaculate Conception Academy transferred from 17th and Iowa to former convent on Davis Avenue and our Lady of Lourdes Home, a home for working girls, opens in its location
1935–OSFs open Our Lady of Lourdes, a music conservatory
1957–Sisters begin teaching at Wahlert Catholic High School
1979–Alverno Apartments groundbreaking; residence for low income and elderly
1998–OSFs join others to form OPening Doors, Inc., resulting in Maria house and Teresa Shelter for women and children
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Source:
1. “Women of Courage and Conviction,” Celebrating 125 Years, Mercy Medical Center, 2004, p. 5
2. Ibid.
3. Fyten, David. “100 Years in U. S. for Dubuque Franciscans,” Telegraph-Herald, August 31, 1975, p. 24
4. Ibid.
5. “Women of Courage and Conviction…”
6. Nevans-Pederson, Mary. “Demonstrating Their Belief,” Telegraph Herald, December 5, 19988, p. 17
7. “Historical Highlights of the OSFs in the Dubuque Area,” Telegraph Herald, November 30, 2014, p. 95
In March 1929, Mother Mary Dominica Wieneke, Major Superior of the Sisters of Saint Francis of Dubuque, along with the Most Rev. Edmond Heelan, Bishop of the Sioux City Diocese, co-founded Briar Cliff College after meeting with members of the Sioux City community, who committed to raising $25,000 to support the establishment of a Catholic women’s college in Sioux City. The twelve foundresses of the College were carefully chosen by Mother Dominica. They were led by Sister Mary Servatius Greenen, who was named the first president.[2]
http://www.osfdbq.org/history.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Order_of_Saint_Francis
Congregation with Motherhouse at St. Francis’s Convent, Dubuque, Iowa. Founded in 1876 by Mother Xaveria Termehr and Sisters from the House of Bethlehem, Herford, Germany, who, on account of the infamous “May laws”, were compelled to leave Germany. Sisters, 399; novices, 34; postulants, 20; orphan asylums, 2; industrial school, 1; academy, 1; home for aged, 1; schools, 43; pupils, 6829.
Going To Ojai – With Muse!
Posted on November 26, 2023 by Royal Rosamond Press
I am going to Ojai.- in my mind and spirit? I might be God. I might not be able to die! Meher Baba went to Ojai – and Krishnamurti! My grandmother knew the leaders of the Theosophic Society. The Rosicrucian’s are here. Conrad Wienke raised bees and sold honey on Route 33.
Calling All Nazarite Angels
Posted on October 8, 2019 by Royal Rosamond Press
Five days ago, I sent my daughter and her unborn child a photograph of what I believe is an angel hovering over the head of Mary Dominica who is Mary Magdalene Rosamond’ cousin.
Here.
“bstark1990 Hello, I have access to it; the book is my father’s and was gifted to my grandfather by his aunt, Mother Dominica. The information related to the early family history of the Wieneke family in Iowa was added to my record for Phillipine Wieneke.
https://www.ancestry.com/connect/Profile/001f2910-0005-0000-0000-000000000000
There’s a family story that says three of John Wieneke daughters married Starks and three entered the convent– from the ridiculuous to the sublime! I have a document saying that there were two Stark families near Cedar Rapids, Iowa, related only through the Wieneke’s. Heinrich and Anna Catharina (sp) Kleinschlau Wieneke’s son John (Johan, in our family lore, 12-9-1834) had a sister, Anna Maria (7-23-1832), who married Andrew Stark.
Re: Andrew Stark
Posted: 28 Jul 2004 07:55PM
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/130731234/anna-maria-stark
Beringer, Sr. Jean <beringerj@osfdbq.org>
To:braskewitz@yahoo.com
Dec 12, 2014 at 1:36 PM
John,
It took me some time to figure out that you had gotten the information through the Briar Cliff history. The biographical information that is there is familiar to me, but I don’t know where you got the question about her journey to Assisi. I have nothing about that and have no knowledge that she went there. If there are other things you want to know you can reach me better by e-mail.
Sr. Jean Beringer, OSF
“The cave we found was an ideal spot and perfectly suited to Baba’s requirements. Herbert had thought out everything with such care that there was nothing left to be desired. Herbert is always very meticulous and careful in all he undertakes. The light was beginning to go a little as we entered the woods. It was just after sunset. I remember the birds and their song dying away gradually.
We settled Baba in and he told us that no one must look at him and, above all, not to touch him.
“It was arranged that Herbert and Chanji were to keep watch outside the cave during the night, to be relieved by Kaka and myself at 9 o’clock the next morning. Baba said that Kaka and I were to go to mass at 7 A.M. the next morning and then we were to kiss the Tomb of St. Francis. We bade them goodnight and found our intricate way out of the woods.
“After mass we shouldered our rucksacks and toiled up the streets through Assisi to the hills of Monte Subasio. As we got out of town, it began to get warmer and warmer.
“Poor Kaka was laden down, and not in such good training as I, so we had to stop from time to time for him to rest and get his breath and cool off. At last we arrived, a little late —about 9:15, and we were glad to reach the cool shade of the wood where we found Herbert and Chanji waiting for as after a wakeful night.
“Nothing had transpired and there had been no interruptions of the calm and peace which pervaded the woods. We settled down to our vigil outside the cave. Herbert and Chanji returned to Assisi to rest.
“The sun rose higher, but we were well shaded from the heat by the trees. An intense calm was everywhere, but the woods were alive with birds whose song was deafening. As if in memory of St. Francis, they seemed to throng around us. Butterflies were often near; several lit on our hands and bodies.
“Gradually it grew warmer, and even in the deep shade, one felt the heat of midsummer.
“Towards midday I heard sounds from inside the cave. Forgetting Baba’s instructions about not looking at him, I saw him stand up with his eyes shut and face the sun. He made strange noises. Not daring to look again, I lay quiet.
“At one o’clock he clapped his hands. We pulled away the branches from the entrance. Taking the board he spelt out directions, telling Kaka to go to Assisi and ask Herbert and Chanji to be with him at 4:30, but that I was to call him there.
“Baba came out of the cave but told us not to come near him or touch him. He walked about alone in the woods for half-an-hour and then went into the cave again.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1527475
Above is a photo of the Wieneke farm in Iowa. Here Sisters of the Order of Saint Francis were grounded in America after they were forced to flee Germany due to Bismark’s Kulturkampf. This is a story of how a religious order was helped by an American family who had immigrated from Germany fifty years before. The Wieneke family was given credit for preparing the way for Saint Francis, and, Jesus Christ. They were seen as Saints.
Last night I read this book again, online. I was hoping John Stark would have posted the rest of the book on ancestry.com. He has not. I tried to get him to give this book to the Sister’ of Briarcliff. John said the book contained accounts that ranged “from the reidulous to the sublime”. You are going to have to cut and past this to url.
file:///C:/Users/jongr/Downloads/Mother%20Mary%20Dominica.pdf
Phillipine was a muse to an artist. Her brother studied at Louvain. There is a missing chapter on the “Family Grotto”. I suspect there were sightings here. Please, John, publish the rest of this book!
Members of the Wieneke came in close contact with the Order of Saint Francis that was forced to flee Germany. It appears they were The Keepers of The Miriam Cult. They wanted to spread the Devotion of Mary in America. The Wieneke Family were chosen to be The Messengers. They spoke German in their homes, as did the Sisters. Below is Father John, and his three sisters born from the same womb. My mother wanted me to become a Franciscan Monk. Her mother, Mary Magdalene Rosamond, said I was destined for the church. These are her cousins, and the sibings of Eutropia.
The name Philippine is a German. In German the meaning of the name Philippine is: loves horses.
There is a scene of the Wienekes taking the Sisters to church in their horse and wagon. This is the opening scene to a movie. I see the rolling hills of golden grass. The camera come closer in this Western secene, and everyone is speaking German. That John Kelly came home severely wonded in his fight with the secular evil in Germany, was very important. These Sisters knew their flock, and shen they did not hear from John and Eutropia, they sent an emisary to Ventura By The Sea. This is a Papal Emisary, as you shall read in my newspaper…………..Royal Rosamond Press.
My sisters awoke to see a Blue Angel standing at the foot of their bed. There was a High Mass held in the Wieneke home to honor the dying mother who had given birth to the first American Sisters of the Order of Saint Francis. The term “papal rank” is used.
The Oak of Meher Mont
Posted on December 10, 2017 by Royal Rosamond Press
I posted this in 2009.
“When I awoke yesterday morning, my Angel bid me restore the Shekinah. The day before I had read a theory put forth by Fridrich von Suhtscheck that the story of Parzival is based upon the Song of the Pearl, or, the Hymn of the Pearl, or, the Hymn of Judas Thomas who was born of royal Parthian parents. For the reason Meher Baba was born of a Parthian father, I looked at Sulphur Mountain above Ventura as the new home of the Shekinah, or, the Rosa Mystica.
There is a rose garden atop Sulpher Mountain. Those who wish to connect with the Shekinah on Santa Rosa can see the Channel Islands from Meher (Mithra) Baba’s retreat. Anyone who seeks the light of God and the Rosa Mystica are forbidden to set foot on Santa Rosa Island until the end of the world.”
Jon
Jai Baba!
Update #7 from Sam Ervin
Yesterday, Dec. 8, Buzz and Ginger, Manager/Caretakers, were again at Meher Mount. They learned a lot more about the aftermath of the fire, and the news is troubling and leaves us with considerable uncertainty. I’ll combine the latest news with much of the report from update #6 to give a more complete picture of what we have learned. The “Thomas Fire”, named after St. Thomas Aquinas College because it started near there, has been raging across Ventura County since Monday, Dec. 4, and is still not nearly contained, having burned more than 100,000 acres. It has been driven by winds up to 80 MPH and extremely low humidity. In its first few days it burned the entire area, rural and wilderness, between the towns of Ojai, Santa Paula and Ventura, including all of Sulphur Mountain, where Meher Mount is located. Fire fighters played a role in saving some structures, as did effective weed and fire hazard abatement, as Buzz and Ginger did at Meher Mount.
Latest Summary:
We won’t know how damaged the water system is until we get power back, which Edison estimates could take 1-3 months. Water from the well will not be available until power is back on. Therefore we may not be able to open Meher Mount for an extended period. The electrical control box at the well is damaged and likely will need to be replaced, the pipe coming from the well is burned and broken, we have quite a bit of melted PVC pipe which needs to be assessed and replaced as needed, both at the well and at the water treatment site. Power lines are down, the poles burned, and fallen trees lie across some of the lines. There may be other damage we have not yet seen. Meanwhile, federal officials are taking over tomorrow from locals to manage access to the entire burned area, so we don’t know if even residents will be able to get to their homesites. I was hoping to go up on Sunday, but they may not allow it. Of course they are concerned about looters.
Baba’s Tree:
The part of Baba’s Tree that fell and burned was still smoldering on Dec. 8. B&G believe the largest and tallest part of the tree was knocked over by the 80 MPH winds, fell to the ground and then burned in the fire that came up the slope from the South. Buzz thinks the remainder of the tree may survive, though it will be considerably shorter and smaller. He said the part that fell was hollow inside for something like fifteen feet above the hollow at the base, and that it may have been a blessing it happened when no one was under the tree, as it clearly was quite weakened. This tree survived the New Life Fire in 1985, 32 years ago, so it is a survivor. It is Baba’s Tree, so we will see what He has in mind.
Buildings:
Fire came right to the two main buildings, the Visitor Center and the Workshop/patio. A small part of the wooden verandah trellis at the Visitor Center was burned and fell off. The rest of the building was not burned, but hot ash had been blown under the doors, and Buzz considered it a minor miracle the curtains did not catch fire and the part of the trellis that burned fell to the ground so the fire did not spread further into the trellis and house. The two main buildings are basically intact, as are their contents, the tractor, etc. They were very smoky inside.
Other:
• They had to walk down the canyon to the wellhead because of many fallen and burned trees blocking the road. The electrical panel at the well, which was new in 2016, and the wires and PVC pipes will need to be repaired or replaced once power is restored to the mountain and down to the well.
• The wooden fence at the entry gate was burned, so the place is less secure than before the fire.
• The water treatment system by the pool appeared relatively intact, though some PVC pipes had melted holes and the ozonator was burned.
• The large outdoor propane tank was charred underneath but intact and still 75% full.
• The Fire fighters had clearly been there, as there was a ladder against the house and the entry gate had been removed from its hinges.
• It’s clear the fire visited nearly every part of the upper section of the property they saw, and they were amazed at how the fireline seemed to stop at critical points. The huge eucalyptus burned, as did other trees. There remain some hot spots on the property, but Buzz feels they are far enough away not to threaten the structures.
• Though the damage appears less than it might have been, a lot of cleanup and repair will be needed, and volunteers will be appreciated, recognizing it may be some time before we get access to the property. Thank you to those who have already offered to help when the time is right.
• Buzz noted that while the whole place is covered with gray ash, there is a beauty to the wooded areas of oak forest where all the underbrush has been burned away.
Buzz and Ginger drove back to Santa Barbara, though they say the smoke is so bad there they are thinking of moving even farther away. They had to show a drivers license with an Upper Ojai address to get access. They were told the federal agents will take over management of access today.
I will plan to drive up to view the property when access is allowed for non-residents and we’ll begin to develop an action plan.
Meher Mount came through this crisis much better than it might have, and this is due in no small part to Buzz and Ginger’s outstanding fire hazard and weed abatement, which was also praised by the Fire Dept. Also, until all hot spots have been eliminated, there will continue to be risk of further damage.
Thank you all for your concern and support through this sudden and for many, devastating, firestorm. We will continue to let you know about what we learn over the next couple of weeks and how you might be able to help.
Avatar Meher Baba Ki Jai!
photos by Buzz and Ginger Glasky
The Shekinah of Rose and Cross
Posted on November 18, 2015by Royal Rosamond Press
I posted this 2009. I had a real vision of things to come. This vision lost me my family and friends. The news tonight showed the peril of the Syrian refugees fleeing to the island of Lesbos while Red State leaders of the Selfish Jesus, tear down the Statue of Liberty, after snuffing out her light. They do not care if the world saw them do this, because they believe their Savior just came for them. But, I send to all, the Compassionate Shekinah!
Jon ‘The Nazarite’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shekhinah
http://www.crystalinks.com/shekinah.html
“who, at the beginning of the Israelites’ settlement in the land of Canaan, was often referred to as Yahweh’s Consort.
The literature also calls her the “Holy Spirit” which, in Hebrew, is also a feminine form. The feminine nature of the Shekhina is so easy to establish in Hebrew, because the gender of the subject plays an important role in the sentence structure.
In English, you can say “The Glorious Shekhina returned to bless us” without mentioning gender.
In Hebrew, both verbs and adjectives have a male or female forms, and many names suggest gender to anyone who understands the language. The simple sentence above indicates three times that the Shekhina is female, and the fact sinks easily into the consciousness of the reader.
From the first covenant, Yahweh presented an image of a harsh, daunting God. His character almost demanded the birth of an entity like Shekhina. Also, He could not be seen by human eyes, and only a few prophets heard His voice. Yet almost every religion shows that human nature seeks intimacy with a deity.
The manifestation of a loving maternal entity, ready to defend her people even from God Himself, brings a feeling of comfort that a paternal, invisible entity like Yahweh cannot bestow upon His worshipers.
Shekhina represented compassion in its purest form, and despite being, officially, the female side of God, she was visible and audible as a feminine entity in her own right.”
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MY VISION
Posted on Christine Rosamond’s yahoogroup in 2009
Song of Songs 2:2 refers to Our Lady and her Immaculate Conception and the following verse to her Son the Beloved (dodi) who is the Messiah. The Zohar asks “Who is Shoshanah (Roza)?” The answer is Kneset Israel or the Woman of Israel. “For there is a rose and then there is Rosa Mystica.” Daniel Matt states: “A rose blossom can have thirteen petals in its second tier.” The Zohar states : “Just as a rose has thirteen petals, so Kneset Yisrael (Our Lady) has thirteen qualities of mercy surrounding Her on every side.” It is this Celestial Mother that fully understands the concept of God as `Elohim’ (God). She does this through her spousal relationship with the Holy Spirit of Understanding (Binah). This Holy Spirit is called `Ruach Elohim’ in Genesis 1.
304The Eternal Voice of the Angel of Freedom
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Here, on her mountain top she can see Meher Baba on his mountain top across the channel. And he will sign to her, compose poems for her, and she will be the song and the sound of `The Angel of Freedom.http://rougeknights.blogspot.com/2007/04/installing-shekinah-and-rosa-mystica-on.htmlWe should stay out of the politics in Iran for what is going on, and what is occurring, is a great change in the Iconography of Iran, that has been formulating for thousand of years, and is on the verge of breaking out of the dreadful duality that religious schism tend to create.It took me seven years to dig out and recover the history of the Rosamond family, that had all but disapeared, been consumed in the fire of Iconoclasm. Above is the oldest surviving painting in Holland, due to the destruction of the Protestant smashers of Catholic Icons. It shows four generations of the Rover family being led before the Virgin Mary by Saint George. The Rovers and the Rosemont’s intermarried. The X shape on their shields is the cog of windmills. We owned windmills. We harnessed the wind.Iconoclasm, Greek for “image-breaking”, is the deliberate destruction within a culture of the culture’s own religious icons and other symbols or monuments, usually for religious or political motives. It is a frequent component of major domestic political or religious changes. It is thus generally distinguished from the destruction by one culture of the images of another,In my search for who I AM I found the Icon of Icons on the banner that Death carries as he marches forever forward. It is the Rosa Mystica, also called the Rosa Mundi, the Rose of the World.When I went to the Salvation Army to find something green as to make a banner with, the only thing that was green besides the scarf with roses, was a sexy negligee. This would not have been inappropriate, for this is the Lipstick Revolution, where Arab men must change, must no longer subscribe to the shame-base – so called religious men – heap upon the opposite sex, because it is more then human nature that the female sex of all species, be alluring! May all women born into a shame-based poisoned pedagogy, be free of the veil of hell man maketh for the woman he claims he loves, and when they pass from the Earth, may you behold a field of divine green, and in the field, a thousand roses just for you! You are loved!I put on my amour, raise the Banner of Love, and ride forth.upon a pale horse.Make straight paths for me, for I am the herald of the great Day of Atonement, when we all shall know our Lord-Creator!P.S. A half hours ago I realized Bob Dylan’s song The Time are Changing’ is an Exodus song, inspired by Moses (Moso) crossing the Rouge Sea! Consider the Hand of God and the Passover. Is this the song that Neda sings to her people from atop the Rosy Mount?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ_XwLSN45IJonThe Prophet “Oh, my dear nightingales, don’t be disappointed with the old age of spring but keep on singing, and while singing become so thirsty that you drown in My Ocean of Silence. Then you will find My eternally new Song. When you sing this Song you will find that spring has become young once again.I want to hear your song. Don’t feel disappointed with the old age of spring and don’t make Me disappointed in you. Drink the cup of My pleasure, and, having derived strength from it, continue singing. Allow others to hear your song too. You will be able to revive the youthfulness of spring; but to accomplish this you have to drown in My Silence and find My Song.Avatar Meher Baba, Letters From The Mandali, Vol. II, p. 110The Iranian authorities have ordered the family of a student shot dead in Tehran to take down mourning posters as they struggle to stop her becoming the rallying point for protests against the presidential election.All mosques were given a direct order from the government barring them from holding any memorial services for Neda, and her family was threatened with grave consequences if anyone gathered to mourn her, said Samsami.“They were threatened that if people wanted to gather there the family would be charged and punished,” Samsami told FOXnews.com.Much of the attention and blame for Neda’s apparent murder is now being focused on Iran’s leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, whose threatening speech Friday preceded the violent protests Saturday at which apparently Neda lost her life. Khamenei is now the prime target for protesters’ outrage, Khalaji said.http://www.tarotpassages.com/old_moonstruck/oneill/13.htmWhen I awoke yesterday morning, my Angel bid me restore the Shekinah. The day before I had read a theory put forth by Fridrich von Suhtscheck that the story of Parzival is based upon the Song of the Pearl, or, the Hymn of the Pearl, or, the Hymn of Judas Thomas who was born of royal Parthian parents. For the reason Meher Baba was born of a Parthian father, I looked at Sulphur Mountain above Ventura as the new home of the Shekinah, or, the Rosa Mystica.
There is a rose garden atop Sulpher Mountain. Those who wish to connect with the Shekinah on Santa Rosa can see the Channel Islands from Meher (Mithra) Baba’s retreat. Anyone who seeks the light of God and the Rosa Mystica are forbidden to set foot on Santa Rosa Island until the end of the world.It is my intention to establish a Guild of Artists. I have traced my Rosamond ancestors to Holland. They were members of the Swan Brethren and no doubt knew the artist Bosch. They were a Renaissance family who belonged to several Guilds over the years.Louis Kossuth was a good friend of John and Jesse Fremont. Jesse Benton accompanied Kossuth on his speaking tours of American. Louis was titled the ‘Angel of Freedom’ due to his call for the true emanncipation of humnity. In 1948, Kossuth granted complete civil rights to the Jews of Hungary. This act may have inspired John Fremont to emmancipate the slaves of Missouri where many Forty-Eighters called home. Fremont co-founded the Republican party as an Abolitionist party. His bodyguard was made up of Hungarian Free-thinkers, as was ‘The Jessie Guard’. It is time to erect a monument to these men at the end of the Oregon Trail.
One half to two thirds of all immigrants to Colonial America arrived as indentured servants. At times, as many as 75% of the population of some colonies were under terms of indenture. Even on the frontier, according to the 1790 U.S. Census, 6% of the Kentucky population was indentured.The Times They Are A-Changin’Come gather ’round peopleWherever you roamAnd admit that the watersAround you have grownAnd accept it that soonYou’ll be drenched to the bone.If your time to youIs worth savin’Then you better start swimmin’Or you’ll sink like a stoneFor the times they are a-changin’.
Come writers and criticsWho prophesize with your penAnd keep your eyes wideThe chance won’t come againAnd don’t speak too soonFor the wheel’s still in spinAnd there’s no tellin’ whoThat it’s namin’.For the loser nowWill be later to winFor the times they are a-changin’.
Come senators, congressmenPlease heed the callDon’t stand in the doorwayDon’t block up the hallFor he that gets hurtWill be he who has stalledThere’s a battle outsideAnd it is ragin’.It’ll soon shake your windowsAnd rattle your wallsFor the times they are a-changin’.
Come mothers and fathersThroughout the landAnd don’t criticizeWhat you can’t understandYour sons and your daughtersAre beyond your commandYour old road isRapidly agin’.Please get out of the new oneIf you can’t lend your handFor the times they are a-changin’.
The line it is drawnThe curse it is castThe slow one nowWill later be fastAs the present nowWill later be pastThe order isRapidly fadin’.And the first one nowWill later be lastFor the times they are a-changin’.The submissive kneeling woman resembles the Strength card, particularly the flowers in the hair. Besides the obvious cross-reference to the Moon card, the two towers may also hint at Boaz and Jachin, the pillars of Solomon’s Temple that appear on the High Priestess card. The pillars were situated in the west and so the rising sun would have been visible between them as one looked to the East. These pillars also appear in the rituals of Freemasonry and the Golden Dawn. There would also be a reference to the Knights Templars, also known as The Knights of Christ of the Temple of Jerusalem.The rose on the banner is drawn in the manner of the Rosicrucian symbol. Examples of this same symbol can be found in Waite’s The Secret Tradition in Freemasonry (pp 227, 248, 550). In the background of the card, along the near shoreline there appear to be three black crosses. These may represent tombstones in keeping with the Death theme, but may also hint at the Cross, the second element of the “Rosy Cross” symbol. In The Real History of the Rosicrucians and The Brotherhood of the Rosy Cross, Waite depicts the Rosicrucians as an occult “church within the church” of Christianity.Neda Salehi Agha Soltan, 26, was killed as she watched a pro-democracy protest, and mobile phone footage of her last moments have become a worldwide symbol of Iran’s turmoil.
The authorities had already banned a public funeral or wake and have prevented gatherings in her name while the state-controlled media has not mentioned Miss Soltan’s death.
Today it was reported that they had also told her family to take down the black mourning banners outside their home in the Tehran suburbs to prevent it becoming a place of pilgrimage. They were also told they could not hold a memorial service at a mosque.The Zohar and Rosa Mysticaby Athol Bloomer”Rabbi Hezekiah opened, `Like a rose among thorns, so is my darling among the maidens’ (Song of Songs 2:2). Who is Rosa Mystica? Our Lady of Israel (Kneset Yisrael/ Matronita/ Sabbath Queen). For there is a Rose and then there is Rosa Mystica. Just as a rose among the thorns is coloured red and white, so Our Lady of Israel includes judgement and mercy. Just as a Rose has 13 petals, so Our Lady of Israel has 13 attributes of mercy surrounding her on every side. Similarly from the moment Elohim (God) is mentioned (in Genesis 1) he generates 13 words to surround Our Lady (in Eternity) and protect her. Then Elohim is mentioned again. Why again? To produce 5 sturdy leaves surrounding Rosa Mystica. These 5 are called Salvation (Yeshuot/Yeshuah), they are 5 gates. Concerning this mystery (raza) it is written: I shall raise the Cup of Salvation (Psalm 116:13). This is the cup of Blessing, which should rest on 5 fingers and no more like the Rose sitting on 5 sturdy leaves, paradigm of 5 fingers. This Rosa Mystica is the Cup of Blessing” Zohar 1:1a.The Zohar is a book that records many of the Jewish mystical insights and traditions that I believe have their source in the mystical teachings of the early Jewish Christians that founded the Church. These mystical teachings were passed on in secrecy in the Jewish community by certain schools of mystics. They were veiled in order to preserve these mysteries and disguise their Jewish Christian meaning. The beginning of the Zohar reveals that the book is concerned with the mysteries connected with Rosa Mystica and her Son. Rosa Mystica is Our Lady also called Kneset Yisrael, Matronita and Sabbath Queen. This spouse of the Ruach ha Kodesh (Holy Spirit) mirrors the mysteries of the Godhead as the Moon mirrors the Sun. She is the Woman (Isha) clothed with the Sun standing on the Moon.The Zohar opens quoting the verse from the Song of Songs about one who is a `shoshanah’ among the thorns. Shoshanah is translated as a Lily or as a Rose. In Ladino it is translated as `roza’. The Zohar considers it to be a rose as well. Since ancient times the Rose has been the sign of Mystery. In Aramaic `mystery’ is `raza’ and the European word `roza’ derives from the Aramaic word Raza symbolised by the Rose. The rose was also a symbol of paradise for the early Christians coming from the Jewish concept of the Mystical world called Pardes to which the mystics ascend and descend.The Zohar then discusses this Rosa Mystica who is the woman of Israel called Kneset Yisrael. Other traditions call her Matronita, the Heavenly warrior Queen of Israel. In the Catholic understanding this is Our Lady under her title of Rosa Mystica. This title is intricately linked with Our Lady’s title of Immaculate Conception.The Zohar refers to this Rosa Mystica as connected with the 13 qualities or attributes of Mercy (chesed). She is the mirror or created light that mirrors clearly and perfectly the 13 qualities of Mercy of the Divinity himself (seen as Divine Mercy). This is Our Lady of Fatima (as Our Lady of Mercy) who is connected with the number 13. This mystical Rose is red and white mirroring the Divine attributes of Judgement and Mercy. As a Rose has 13 petals so the Rosa Mystica has 13 qualities or paths of Mercy. “Like a rose (shoshanah) among thorns, so is my darling among the maidens” (Song of Songs 2:2).This first section of the Zohar speaks of the Immaculate Conception using this verse from the Song of Songs to show that Our Lady the Rosa Mystica is saved, by Yeshuah through his 5 wounds (gates), from the demonic forces that have ruled men since the Fall. The thorns represent sin and the demons. The 5 leaves that surround the rose are connected here with Salvation. Salvation is Yeshuah (Jesus) in Hebrew. Salvation’s five gates are the five wounds of Yeshuah in his hands, feet and heart. These five gates are also linked to the five books of the Torah.Song of Songs 2:2 refers to Our Lady and her Immaculate Conception and the following verse to her Son the Beloved (dodi) who is the Messiah. The Zohar asks “Who is Shoshanah (Roza)?” The answer is Kneset Israel or the Woman of Israel. “For there is a rose and then there is Rosa Mystica.” Daniel Matt states: “A rose blossom can have thirteen petals in its second tier.” The Zohar states : “Just as a rose has thirteen petals, so Kneset Yisrael (Our Lady) has thirteen qualities of mercy surrounding Her on every side.” It is this Celestial Mother that fully understands the concept of God as `Elohim’ (God). She does this through her spousal relationship with the Holy Spirit of Understanding (Binah). This Holy Spirit is called `Ruach Elohim’ in Genesis 1. Between the first and second mentions of `Elohim’ in Genesis 1, there are thirteen Hebrew words symbolising the 13 qualities of Mercy. These 13 qualities are in a deep way connected with the Spirit of God and his spouse the Celestial Mother. These 13 qualities of Mercy are linked to the 13 rivers of balsam that await the righteous (Tzaddikkim) in the World to Come.This Mystical Rose is linked to the opening verses of the Torah as mentioned above. The first verses are seen as a mystical Rose. The phrase `et ha shamayim’ is especially seen as the concept of the Mystical Rose. Paradise is seen as the Mystical Rose Garden (Rosarium) mirrored on the earth by the Rose Garden between the Kotel (Wailing or Western Wall of the Temple) and the Temple itself. Shamayim is Heaven, which is linked to the concept of Paradise or Pardes. In the Celestial Mother her attributes (that mirrors the Divine attributes perfectly) are seen as the enclosed Rose Garden. In her son the Beloved they are seen as an Apple Orchard linked to Song of Songs 2:3 “Like an apple tree among the trees of the orchard, so is my beloved among the sons of men.”Zohar 1:9a refers to this Groom as the Sun. “Dwelling in those skies, crowned in them, he is like a groom coming forth from his chamber.” This Sun is then linked to `the end of Heaven above’ which earlier was revealed as the male cherub on the Ark of the Covenant. Bereshit in Genesis 1:1 is made up of six letters (shoshan- the six petalled rose). It is followed by 6 words (bara Elohim et ha-Shamayim ve-et ha-aretz).This is linked to the six times that YHVH appears in Psalm 19:8-10. The mystery of the circuit of the sun (as male and female) is revealed In Psalm 19. `His circuit’ is the `end of heaven below’ who alludes to the female cherub.Zohar 1:10b asks the companions to sing songs of Praise to the bride as this is what pleases the Groom. Jacob Frank and his followers used to sing parts of the Zohar in honour of the Virgin Bride and they were accused by their enemies of engaging in sex with a naked woman. Zohar 1:10b is linked with Revelations 12 where the Woman of Israel (Mary) is in the wilderness. The “Shema Yisrael” also is made up of six words linking it to the concept of Shoshan the six petalled Rose. Zohar 1:14a associated the head Teffilin with the verse “Your head upon you is like Carmel”. The male is the Head Tefillin associated with the word `zakhar’ (male) and zakhor’ (remember). The female is the Hand Teffilin associated with `shamor’ (observe). The Teffillin boxes represent the Two Hearts that are the Two Roses. Wearing them both unites symbolically the Two Hearts as the One Rosa Mundi. The Hebrew phrase head and year (rosh ve-shanah) connected with Rosh ha Shanah can be rearranged to mean `riah shoshan’ (to see a Rose). The Rose Bush is also associated symbolically with the burning bush of Moses.At its highest possible level, Art is a card which marks spiritual transformation – the moment when all of the pieces of understanding we have gathered in our studies fly up, in chaos, into the air. When they land, we shall discover that they have formed a perfect pattern of life and living. This card can, when really well-dignified, signal a massive breakthrough into a totally fresh consciousness. We shall have struggled, fought, grappled for understanding, and maybe suffered more than a little, but all of that effort will become worthwhile and important. Of course, the number of times that Art’s appearance will indicate such a major development are vastly outweighed by the times the card shows more mundane matters arising – but even on the purely material level, this one is the ‘Come together’ card (suddenly I hear distant strains of Beatles’ songs!). It shows whole areas of life falling into place, and assuming their rightful pattern. Sometimes, it will indicate that a problem finally yields its own resolution. In any matter where this Major Arcana card rules, there will have been a need for patience and for moderate behaviour. Often there has been frustration and a drain on energies – but then along comes Art to indicate that all that caution and care has paid off enormously. So, on a day where Art rules, we must expect that things will just begin to fall into place. We will probably task better than usual, and therefore make good inroads on our ordinary work. New ways of dealing with things will occur to us. Fresh perspectives will appear. And, as a result, our lives will shift closer to harmony and balance. We can help all of this along by examining the polarities which exist within us – everything in life comes initially as a polarity. Male -female; dark- light; good – bad; kind – cruel; birth – death. Life emerges as we attempt to shade the space between each pair of opposites with the colours of understanding. The more we learn, the more intense our colours become. So to recognise the polarities within ourselves is to know ourselves better – and therefore to add to our personal rainbow. What do you love? What do you hate? (Don’t say nothing….it is not true!) And in between what is there – like, dislike, have no reaction to….these nuances of response are your living colours. And the more you get to know them, without standing in judgement upon them, the better you know yourself
Universal Order of Saint Francis
Posted on August 2, 2020 by Royal Rosamond Press
The Catholic church has been utterly corrupted by Attorney General, William Barr, and President Trump – who holds up a upside-down Bible in front of a Catholic church. Did Barr suggest he do this in order to give Opus Dai and the radical Catholics a MESSAGE, that once again, the Catholic Church launces a crusade against un-believers.
Meher Baba forbid his followers to form a religion around his teaching, but, he said nothing about Saint Francis. Below the photograph with CAUTION you see a cave in the distance. A year after I conversed with Jesus I wrote my novel ‘Where Art Thou?” while sitting before this cave – at my computer screen – and saw The Tree of Life at the back of this cave.
John Rosamond Rice
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Spiritual Work With Saint Francis
Posted onJune 17, 2019by Royal Rosamond Press
Saint Francis and The Perfect Master
Posted onDecember 24, 2014by Royal Rosamond Press
The Key is the book written by Mother Superior Dominic Wieneke wherein is describes the Order’s visit to Assisi where something happened that Stark describes as “ridiculous”. the idea that I may be the embodiment of Saint Francis is not far-fetched considering the spiritual work I have done with Meher Baba since 1967. My book on ‘The Arrest of Jesus’ will change the foundation of Christianity.
There is a huge movement to allow Fathers to get married – and have children! I was destined for the church. I died a virgin, and was reborn a virgin. My daughter is THE TEST! I became enlightened at twenty years of age! I was on my way to India to live as a Sadhguru.
John Presco
Copyright 2019
http://www.catholictv.org/blog/6-saints-who-are-models-fathers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaggi_Vasudev
“bstark1990 Hello, I have access to it; the book is my father’s and was gifted to my grandfather by his aunt, Mother Dominica. The information related to the early family history of the Wieneke family in Iowa was added to my record for Phillipine Wieneke.
https://www.ancestry.com/connect/Profile/001f2910-0005-0000-0000-000000000000
There’s a family story that says three of John Wieneke daughters married Starks and three entered the convent– from the ridiculuous to the sublime! I have a document saying that there were two Stark families near Cedar Rapids, Iowa, related only through the Wieneke’s. Heinrich and Anna Catharina (sp) Kleinschlau Wieneke’s son John (Johan, in our family lore, 12-9-1834) had a sister, Anna Maria (7-23-1832), who married Andrew Stark.
Re: Andrew Stark
Posted: 28 Jul 2004 07:55PM
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/130731234/anna-maria-stark
Beringer, Sr. Jean <beringerj@osfdbq.org>
To:braskewitz@yahoo.com
Dec 12, 2014 at 1:36 PM
John,
It took me some time to figure out that you had gotten the information through the Briar Cliff history. The biographical information that is there is familiar to me, but I don’t know where you got the question about her journey to Assisi. I have nothing about that and have no knowledge that she went there. If there are other things you want to know you can reach me better by e-mail.
Sr. Jean Beringer, OSF
Archivist
John Ambrose <braskewitz@yahoo.com>
To:beringerj@osfdbq.org
Dec 16, 2014 at 1:19 PM
I have located the book and asked bstark to get you the full book.
Meher Baba and Saint Francis
Posted onFebruary 10, 2014by Royal Rosamond Press
“Saint Francis of Assisi was the only one of the very few saints in Europe to become a Perfect Master.”
Just before Jesus died, he said; “I am thirsty.” The first thing I said when I came back to life, after seeing the Lord, was; “I’m thirsty.”
Consider Mary Dominica Wieneke and the Order of Saint Francis. In searching for the Blue Angel that appeared to my sisters while they slept, and Kay Coakley, I look to my aunt, June Rice, who took care of me while I had the hooping cough. I almost died several times. I was eleven. I had turned blue and my fingers were contorted when I came into the living room where my aunt Lillian and uncle Dick were sitting. Lillian screamed, and Dick started hitting me on my back.
When June would come to my bed in her nightgown, I saw a blue glow coming from her abdomen. She could not have a child due to some operations. She and Vinnie treated me like their child, and were my patrons. June was a devout Catholic.
I suspect this blue angel is associated with Mother Mary. I wondered if it was her ghost. But, I believe it is the Angel that came to Saint Francis when he died during a terrible illness, and came back.
I suspect I am the embodiment of Saint Francis. When I read about Baba coming to the true cave of Saint Francis, all of a sudden I had a vision. I was sitting in that cave. I heard the dry summer grass being stepped upon. Suddenly Baba’s face is beaming at me. I reached out my wounded hand and cried;
“Father!”
Not the energy around me (click on photo to enlarge) Christine and Brian took photos of me because Christine wanted to do her first portrait of a male. She developed both rolls, and was shocked to see this energy in every image of me. she did not do my portrait because of it.
Baba told his disciples not to touch him when he came out of the cave. Above is Vicki mocking me while I am doing my secret work. She is reaching out with her finger to touch me while I have my eyes closed.
Jon Gregory
Beloved Avatar Meher Baba’s Comment on Saint Francis of Assisi:
{1}. On another occasion, Baba revealed to Filis and Adele his four favorite Christian saints,
“My two favorite women saints are Saint Theresa of Avila and Catherine of Siena; my two favorite men, Francis of Assisi and Saint Augustine.”
[LordMEHER 11-3818]
{2}. Do you know how St. Francis of Assisi loved Jesus and became one with him? He loved him as Jesus ought to be loved; but in Francis’s group there was one who was a glutton.
Juniper loved Francis most, though he did not sit in meditation or think of anything. He gave more trouble to Francis than anyone, yet he loved Francis dearly. When we love from the bottom of our hearts we give all our good and bad, even our troubles; the lover gives everything and demands nothing. I give everything and demand nothing.
Love me like that and Baba is your slave. Even if you can’t do that, don’t worry. As long as you are mine, you need not worry. You are mine, that is why I have drawn you such long distances. If you can’t picture me, don’t worry; if you don’t love me, don’t worry; I love you.
-Avatar Meher Baba
[The God-Man Pg.257]
{3}. If you have the love for Me that Saint Francis had for Jesus, then not only will you realize Me but you will please Me.” -Avatar Meher Baba “Saint Francis of Assisi was the only one of the very few saints in Europe to become a Perfect Master.”
*** Meher Baba said Saint Francis was a Perfect Master.
AFTERWARDS he spoke with Ivy Duce, Don Stevens and others about Saint Francis:
Don Stevens asked, “Baba, you have explained in the Discourses, God Speaks and elsewhere that an individual cannot attain God-Realization without the aid of a living Perfect Master. Since there was no Perfect Master in Europe at that time, how did Saint Francis achieve Realization?”
Baba turned to Ivy and asked, “Have you heard of the ancient Sufi prophet, Khwaja Khizr?” She replied that she had heard Rabia Martin speak of him. Baba explained: “Khwaja Khizr now and then takes on a physical body if there is some spiritual situation that absolutely demands it. The Realization of Francis was such a case, because he had no Perfect Master to give him Realization. So, on the night we read about on Mount La Verna, near Assisi, during which St. Francis also received the stigmata [wounds of the Crucified Christ], Khwaja Khizr, in his temporary human form, gave this beloved Western saint the touch of grace which made him a Perfect Soul – a Qutub or Perfect Master.”
[LordMEHER 14-5011]
{4}. BABA WISHED to stay in seclusion for twenty-four hours somewhere in Italy and chose Assisi for the purpose because it was the homeland of Saint Francis. Baba sent Herbert there on August 1st in search of a cave for the seclusion [LordMEHER 5-1688]
{5}.As you know, I need none of you. I can work my will independently, but I have chosen, for my own reasons, a few to help me in that work. But these few need a love and faith as rare as that of Saint Francis [of Assisi]. Let that same love of his for Christ be your goal, and love me as he loved his Master.
-Avatar Meher Baba [LordMEHER 7-2332]
{6}.12th Way -LOVE…If you have that love for Me that St. Francis had for Jesus, then not only will you realize Me, but you will please Me.
[12 ways of realizing me -Meher Baba]
My reason* for believing there is a significant kernel of truth to these theories of Jesus living in India and being buried in Kashmir, is that my master, Meher Baba, said that was the case.
However, Meher Baba was also clear that Jesus was the Avatar of that era. The Avatar is God descended into our realm of cosmic illusion as a man, the ideal or perfect man. Thus he is both God and man simultaneously.
Jesus the Christ The author of this website appears to have a bias (we all have biases) that Jesus was a man only, and that any suggestion that he was divine or of divine origin is a matter of myth. I think his thesis that Jesus’s memory was embellished to make the new religion more palatable to gentiles who were already familiar with similar myths, is plausible. Again, for my bottom-line evaluation, I personally, as a follower of Meher Baba, turn to his explanations rather than to scholarship. (You of course are welcome to give your own weight to various sources.) According to Meher Baba, Jesus was conceived and was born “the usual way,” i.e., the virgin birth was a myth added later on. Jesus did not die from the crucifixion in the sense we usually think of death, but what he did was also not something possible for an ordinary man–he entered the state of Nirvikalpa Samadhi and then returned after the crucifixion, and went to India. If you study the life of Sri Ramakrishna, you will find that he often entered this State, as for example when something would remind him strongly of some particular attribute of God, or when devotional songs were sung in his presence. Nirvikalpa Samadhi is the state of God-Realization or Self-Realization. Jesus, as Avatar, would have had this state along with his ordinary consciousness of being a man, simultaneously. Nirvikalpa Samadhi is only attained by the real death of the limited mind and ego. Jesus already possessed this state of Realization (having been unveiled from it by John the Baptist). So in a sense, Jesus died the real death on the cross, not the faint shadow of it that we consider to be death. One could also say that Jesus was already “dead” in a sense; or one could equally say that he was already beyond death and in the state of being fully alive, so that it was impossible for him to die in the usual sense.** In this sense, whether Jesus took up his same physical body after the crucifixion or didn’t, would not change who Jesus IS one iota. He could take it up again or not take it up again and he would remain the Avatar. In the same way, he was the Avatar before his incarnation as well–“Before Abraham was, I am.” The entire matter is really beyond words to describe adequately, and it comes as no surprise to me how 2,000 years of interpreting and trying to codify it into a rigid doctrine resulted in what has come down to us.
Meher Baba also makes no mention of Jesus being married, but instead refers to him as being single. Comparing events in the life of Meher Baba, the story in the Tomb of Jesus website of the king insisting on Jesus having a companion, and Jesus finally agreeing to allow a woman to assist him, is plausible. However, his having had sexual relations with the woman is not consistent with the behavior of spiritual teachers who have attained this degree of spiritual advancement. I would guess it was assumed on the basis of gossip, by people who could not conceive of a man living with a woman and not having relations with her. If you study the lives of spiritual masters who have achieved this state of consciousness, you find that some of them marry and some do not, but they never get entangled in casual sexual relations. While it is true that spiritual masters of this calibre may have a significant other, very often even this is a chaste relationship. Such was the case with Sri Ramakrishna and his wife Sarada Devi, and one may interpret that it was also the case with St. Francis (who Meher Baba said achieved this state of Nirvikalpa Samadhi) and his beloved Clare.
My main point here is that one must be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Though it may turn out that Jesus physically survived the crucifixion, and it may also be true that his history was embellished in the manner of myths that had also been applied to other historical figures, this does not mean that he was not an Incarnation of God. It doesn’t necessarily mean that he was simply a prophet, a man, who lived through the crucifixion and then died later as an ordinary man. It also doesn’t mean that there aren’t important truths embedded in the myths that have been preserved as traditional Christian doctrine. It does mean that these myths contain distortion and embellishment, and that it will be a painful and disorienting process for traditional Christians to sort through it and find the truth of it. When the “dust has settled,” I think they will find that Jesus was and is more than traditional Chuch doctrine has portrayed him to be, not less. (Just as the true goal of religion, God-Realization, is much more than living in paradise forever in linear time.) What will emerge, I believe, is not that Jesus was just an ordinary man; nor that he was the only son of an anthropomorphic God. Jesus will finally be let out of both the little conceptual box of materialism, and the little conceptual box of Christian dogma, in which boxes he has been imprisoned for centuries.
For more information on Meher Baba, see my article, “A Tapestry of Meher Baba’s Connections with the West.”
*Another clue is that when Jesus appeared to the disciples, he appears to have had a body with the same wounds. It makes no sense to me that Jesus would have resurrected a body with the wounds. It further makes no sense to me that Thomas would have thrust his hands into the wound in Jesus’s side, literally, as per the Biblical account, simply because no-one who loved Jesus as the disciples did would have caused him excruciating physical pain just to satisfy their own selfish doubts. Therefore the account must be exaggerated (another clear indication of editing in the New Testament). Nonetheless, we are probably safe in assuming that this much is accurate, that Jesus’s body bore the wounds from the crucifixion when he returned. Under those circumstances, it is a much simpler and more logical interpretation that he survived the crucifixion than that his body was supernaturally resurrected.
**My interpretation of the crucifixion, based on studying Meher Baba’s life and teachings, is that Jesus was vicariously taking on the suffering of the world, so as to make the world’s load of karma bearable for us. (Meher Baba said that the Avatar did not take on the karma of the world per se, which I interpret to mean that he took on the suffering that resulted from the karma but not the karma itself.) The external crucifixion of Jesus was thus an outward and visible sign of the real inward crucifixion, of the inner spiritual work that Jesus was doing for humanity and for all of Creation. Thus the real inner crucifixion was much, much more than just the outward event of the physical crucifixion.
“Finally we arrived at Assisi at 5 P.M. to find a rather agitated Herbert waiting for us, because we were three hours late in arriving. After a rather restless and depressing week, he had made most successful arrangements for Baba’s retirement (which he tells in much better words than mine).
“Several kilometers from the town, up in the hills on the slopes of Monte Subasio, lies the famous Hermitage of Carceri built by St. Francis and his fellow monks. Below in the woods are several small caves or retreats where people go for meditation. Herbert discovered one of these half-protected by an outside wall. He had hidden this with branches so that it was difficult to find.
“This was one that was actually used by St. Francis himself. At 6:30 P.M. we had a light meal at the Windsor Hotel and drove in a car most of the way. The last part we walked on foot and, finally, scaled a low wall and plunged into the woods led by Herbert down an intricate winding path.
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“The cave we found was an ideal spot and perfectly suited to Baba’s requirements. Herbert had thought out everything with such care that there was nothing left to be desired. Herbert is always very meticulous and careful in all he undertakes. The light was beginning to go a little as we entered the woods. It was just after sunset. I remember the birds and their song dying away gradually.
We settled Baba in and he told us that no one must look at him and, above all, not to touch him.
“It was arranged that Herbert and Chanji were to keep watch outside the cave during the night, to be relieved by Kaka and myself at 9 o’clock the next morning. Baba said that Kaka and I were to go to mass at 7 A.M. the next morning and then we were to kiss the Tomb of St. Francis. We bade them goodnight and found our intricate way out of the woods.
“After mass we shouldered our rucksacks and toiled up the streets through Assisi to the hills of Monte Subasio. As we got out of town, it began to get warmer and warmer.
“Poor Kaka was laden down, and not in such good training as I, so we had to stop from time to time for him to rest and get his breath and cool off. At last we arrived, a little late —about 9:15, and we were glad to reach the cool shade of the wood where we found Herbert and Chanji waiting for as after a wakeful night.
“Nothing had transpired and there had been no interruptions of the calm and peace which pervaded the woods. We settled down to our vigil outside the cave. Herbert and Chanji returned to Assisi to rest.
“The sun rose higher, but we were well shaded from the heat by the trees. An intense calm was everywhere, but the woods were alive with birds whose song was deafening. As if in memory of St. Francis, they seemed to throng around us. Butterflies were often near; several lit on our hands and bodies.
“Gradually it grew warmer, and even in the deep shade, one felt the heat of midsummer.
“Towards midday I heard sounds from inside the cave. Forgetting Baba’s instructions about not looking at him, I saw him stand up with his eyes shut and face the sun. He made strange noises. Not daring to look again, I lay quiet.
“At one o’clock he clapped his hands. We pulled away the branches from the entrance. Taking the board he spelt out directions, telling Kaka to go to Assisi and ask Herbert and Chanji to be with him at 4:30, but that I was to call him there.
“Baba came out of the cave but told us not to come near him or touch him. He walked about alone in the woods for half-an-hour and then went into the cave again.
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