John Was Second Coming of Elijah

The greatest contradiction in the Bible is whether Jesus said John was Elijah. How then can the Bible be the irrefutable Word of God? How could God’s alleged Son – get it wrong – or, be so evasive? Only I got it right after studying both books of the Bible. ONLY I SAW THE TRUTH.

The infant John was sat in Elijah’s Chair and asked if he was Elijah. He said he was. Why would Pharisees ask if John was Elijah – when he was a adult? They must have heard he was speaking when eight days old. This was broadcast throughout the land. His father sang Hannah’s Song denoting he was a prophet after Samuel.

“Pharisees sent a delegation to question him”

What bullshit! They would be honored to come themselves. This QUESTIONING by Pharisees is VERY SUSPECT. Is it really – HOSTILE? What is the controversy they want to put an end to? They – I mean the delegation – did a lousy job! Send – another! This is about Prophets of God. GET IT RIGHT! If I can get it right – then real men of God today can get it right? NO! There is talk about THE END OF THE WORLD!

“One wishes for a more satisfying answer than ignorance on John’s part, however. Such an answer is available through careful comparison of the relevant texts.”

Many Christians believe Jesus – is God! How come the Living God couldn’t get THE CORRECT ANSWER? Is this the dude who is going to destroy the whole world for the sake of a few believers? Why BELIEVE? Why – FAITH! Where is – THE TRUTH? THINK!

“On the eighth day they came to circumcise the child, and they were going to name him after his father Zechariah, 60 but his mother spoke up and said, “No! He is to be called John.”

Did any group of men come to circumcise Jesus – AND GIVE HIM A NAME? Who gave his name – his mother and father? Were these men – PHARISEES? This is a coverup – folks! The Pharisees do not want to be implicated – after John is arrested!

John ‘The Nazarite’

Luke 1:5-25 NIV – The Birth of John the Baptist Foretold – Bible Gateway

Was John the Baptist Elijah? – BJU Seminary




As John the Baptist was preaching and baptizing, the Pharisees sent a delegation to question him about his identity and ministry. When John denied being the Messiah, his interrogators immediately asked, “What then? Are you Elijah?” John’s answer was simple and straightforward: “I am not” (John 1:21). This would seem to settle the matter and put an end to any controversy.

Later, however, Jesus said of John the Baptist: “He is Elijah who is to come” (Matt 11:14). This seeming contradiction naturally puzzles Bible believers and gives Bible critics an opening to attack the Scriptures. Is John Elijah or isn’t he?

Theoretically, it’s possible that John wasn’t fully aware of his identity in God’s redemptive program. After all, Jesus’ statement about John comes in the context of responding to John’s struggles concerning Jesus’ own identity (Matt 11:2-3). One wishes for a more satisfying answer than ignorance on John’s part, however. Such an answer is available through careful comparison of the relevant texts.

John Speaks As Infant – Not Jesus!

Posted on March 11, 2012 by Royal Rosamond Press

The Koran has Jesus speaking the moment he is born. Why is there no mention of this miracle in the New Testament? There is, in the birth narrative of John the Baptist, but it has been altered and concealed. I have come to open your eyes, your ears, and your mouth to the Truth!

The Koran got it wrong! John was the second coming of Elijah preaching about the coming Judgement Day – that never came because John was beheaded.

Jon Presco

Coyright 2007

“And (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour) but follow ye Me: this is a Straight Way.”

“The man old in days will not hesitate to ask a small child seven days old about the place of life. For many who were first will become, last, and they will become one and the same.

To this day, every Jewish child is put in `Elijah’s Chair’ to be circumcised on the eight day. Every Jewish male is a candidate for the Messiah at this age. The child is questioned by a Rabbi if he is
the Messiah, or Elijah who will prepare the way for the Messiah.

Because John descend from the priestly lineage of Aaron, and because his father served in the temple, silence was observed around John –even before he was born – lest he hear from his mother’s womb, un-
perfect Torah. For a priestly child knows perfect Torah just before he come from his mother’s womb, but, God touches the child’s lips just before he enters the world, and he forget all he knew. But, not
in the case of the rebirth of Elijah, and the birth of the Messiah.

On the eight day God may break the seal He put upon the Chosen One’s lips, and a Child, who is least, will lead the Congregation.

Behold! the angels said “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ (Maseeh) Jesus the son of Mary held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.
“He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity and he shall be (of the company) of the righteous.”
She said: “O my Lord! how shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?” He said: “Even so: Allah createth what He willeth; when He hath decreed a plan He but saith to it ‘Be’ and it is!

“And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom the Law and the Gospel.

I was born on October 8th. during an amazing star shower.

19:25 Thus, Jesus was born in late September or early October. This is when dates ripen in the Middle East to the point of falling off
the tree.

The priests that surrounded the infant John are using hand-signs to communicate with one another – and the child. John signs back, and then his mouth is opened and he begins to speak. He is but eight days
19:16] Mention in the scripture Mary. She isolated herself from her
family, into an eastern location.
[19:17] While a barrier separated her from them, we sent to her our
Spirit. He went to her in the form of a human being.
[19:18] She said, “I seek refuge in the Most Gracious, that you may
be righteous.”
[19:19] He said, “I am the messenger of your Lord, to grant you a
pure son.”
[19:20] She said, “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me;
I have never been unchaste.”
[19:21] He said, “Thus said your Lord, `It is easy for Me. We will
render him a sign for the people, and mercy from us. This is a
predestined matter.’ ”
The Birth of Jesus
[19:22] When she bore him, she isolated herself to a faraway place.
[19:23] The birth process came to her by the trunk of a palm tree.
She said, “(I am so ashamed;) I wish I were dead before this
happened, and completely forgotten.”
[19:24] (The infant) called her from beneath her, saying, “Do not
grieve. Your Lord has provided you with a stream.
[19:25] “If you shake the trunk of this palm tree, it will drop ripe
dates for you.
*19:25 Thus, Jesus was born in late September or early October. This
is when dates ripen in the Middle East to the point of falling off
the tree.
[19:26] “Eat and drink, and be happy. When you see anyone, say, `I
have made a vow of silence [to the Most Gracious]*; I am not talking
today to anyone.’ ‘
* 19:26 The statement [to the Most Gracious] occurs in the Original Arabic Quran after “vow of silence” and is not included in the English translation. ( editorial change)

[19:27] She came to her family, carrying him. They said, “O Mary,
you have committed something that is totally unexpected.
[19:28] “O descendant of Aaron, your father was not a bad man, nor
was your mother unchaste.”
The Infant Makes a Statement
[19:29] She pointed to him. They said, “How can we talk with an
infant in the crib?”
[19:30] (The infant spoke and) said, “I am a servant of GOD. He has
given me the scripture, and has appointed me a prophet.
[19:31] “He made me blessed wherever I go, and enjoined me to
observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and the obligatory charity
(Zakat) for as long as I live.
[19:32] “I am to honor my mother; He did not make me a disobedient
[19:33] And peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and
the day I get resurrected.”

59] On the eighth day they came to circumcise the child, and they
were going to name him after his father Zechariah, [60] but his
mother spoke up and said, “No! He is to be called John.”

[61] They said to her, “There is no one among your relatives who has
that name.”
[62] Then they made signs to his father, to find out what he would
like to name the child. [63] He asked for a writing tablet, and to
everyone’s astonishment he wrote, “His name is John.” [64]
Immediately his mouth was opened and his tongue was loosed, and he
began to speak, praising God. [65] The neighbors were all filled with
awe, and throughout the hill country of Judea people were talking
about all these things. [66] Everyone who heard this wondered about
it, asking, “What then is this child going to be?” For the Lord’s
hand was with him.
[67] His father Zechariah was filled with the Holy Spirit and

Every Jewish male born is a candidate for the SECOND COMING of
Elijah. For this reason the eight day old child is circumcised
in `Elijah’s Chair’. It was believed that while in the womb an angel
teaches the unborn child the Torah, and just before birth, the angel
touches the child’s lips with his forefinger, and the child forgets
all knowledge of the Torah. But, this would not be the case with the
return of Elijah who will emerge from his mother’s womb with perfect
understanding of the Torah, not only in its written form, but in the
spoken form known as the Talmud. It was for this reason Zachariah,
the priest, took a vow of silence, and his wife and kin, as John’s
parents are descended from Aaron and Moses, and thus the Levite
priesthood. Elisheba is titled a “daughter of Aaron”. For the reason
the Torah has been altered, and some very important meanings lost, it
was concluded the only hope of SALVATION for the Lord’s chosen
children, was the RESTORATION of the true Torah.

One has to inquire as to why priests would come to name Zachariah’s
son. A child is usually named after a deceased relative. When the
name John is given, a priest remarks “there is no one in your family
with that name.” There is an argument of sorts, which is crucial, for
I believe it is the newborn child WITHOUT SIN who names himself. I
believe he SIGNED with his fingers, then wrote on a slate “I am
Elijah”. This done, this child began to interpret Talmud, then

John And Elijah’s Chair

Posted on March 5, 2018 by Royal Rosamond Press

John the Baptist was put in Elijah’s Chair when he was eight days old. There was an argument between his parents over his name. The infant speaks, and says his name. He them asks for a tablet so he could write the ancient form of this name. No Rabbi or Christian scholar or Priest has discovered this truth. Why me?

I was born three days after Yom Kippur during an amazing star shower. For this reason my mother wanted me to be named JON. When the nurse put an H in my name, Rosemary Rosamond, was furious. She refused to call me JOHN. She called me by my middle name GREGORY. She named me after Pope Gregory. Why?

I have been mocked and shamed, made out to be insane. My mother humiliated and brought shame upon me. She is responsible for the death of my childhood friend. I lost all status when I died. So be it! I lost everything and everyone. Above is my little sister, mocking me. My friends born with a silver spoon in the mouth, are not worth my time. My mother died not knowing the amazing history I found, and, our friendship with a Pope. On Tuesday I will be going to the special collections room at the University of Oregon Library to see if I can find the image of Pope Adrien that was removed from Bosch’s ‘Wedding Feast At Cana’, Was wearing the same Papal Tiara that Gregory wore?

John Gregory Presco

Elijah’s Cup and Chair

Posted on June 19, 2015by Royal Rosamond Press


ISIS employs Jesus in their End Time prophecy, but I say the Jesus depicted in the New Testament is false. John the Baptist was not born to – point to Jesus and declare he has the right stuff. John and his disciple continued to spread their message all over the world, to Jews in the Diaspora. John was the Good Shepherd. Was there a End Time prophecy in his message?

Mark Gall’s mother took a liking to me the moment we met. I would take her to synagogue. I would dine once a month at her table at the retirement. She prepared a place for me.

I contend there was a Moabite Go-el Redeemer who was called Jesus, because this name means ‘Savior’. He read the Book of Ruth on the Mount of Olives, then dined as the Spirit of Elijah. Was Jesus a disciple of John who was elected to carry on his ministry – as the second coming of Elisha? Upon his death Jesus cries;

“Elijah! Why has your spirit left me?”

He does not ask why the God of the Jews has forsaken him, this the excuse for Christians to forsake the original Jewish church, and make Jesus – God!  This is blasphemy!

Because of the brutality of ISIS – you have to tell the truth!

There is evidence I am a Go’el Redeemer.

My family oppressed my book ‘Bonds With Angels’ that was begun tow years before Christine Rosamond died. My family disappeared the autobiography she began. My book begins with the angel my sister’s saw standing at the foot of their bed. Angels are not male or female. I had just come home for Los Angeles where I almost died of whooping cough. My aunt, June Rice, took care of me. She was old in years and did not bear a child. When she tucked me in at night, I saw a blue aura emanating from her stomach. I believe the blue angel came home with me and said hello to my sisters and the old crone who adopted us, she too not bringing a child into the world.

Then there is the mysterious youth wrapped in linen that runs away when Jesus is arrested. I believe he was a convert into the new Moabite Congregation that the Sanhedrin outlawed. Jesus was the sandek performing a circumcision on a Gentile. This is to say there was no need for Saul-Paul to be the messenger amongst the Gentiles. Paul is the inventor of Anti-Semitism.

Jon ‘The Nazarite’

The midrash asks:

“Is there anyone in Israel who has no go’el?

The idea is morally unacceptable. How can a person be so isolated,
and how can a society be so alienated that a person might be entirely
alone? The Sages decided to use this to teach a moral lesson
about “otherness” and about acceptance. The answer the Sages give is
that the only Jew who could possibly lack a go’el would have to be a
childless convert to Judaism. For such a person, God Himself is the

And they all left Him and fled. A young man was following Him, wearing nothing but a linen sheet over his naked body; and they seized him. But he pulled free of the linen sheet and escaped naked.

The tradition is to designate a chair for Elijah the Prophet, the “Angel of the Covenant,” at every circumcision.1 Many synagogues have an ornamental chair for this purpose.2 Some have the custom that the sandek, the one holding the child on his lap during the circumcision, sits on this chair.3 Others use a chair that is wide enough for both the sandek and Elijah.

The custom in most communities is for the chair to be positioned from east to west, with the sandek , the one holding the child on his lap during the circumcision, facing west.4


For thousands of years, the Jewish nation has been oppressed in many ways. When tyrannical monarchies and governments wished to attack Judaism, one of the first Divine commandments they banned was ritual circumcision. For example, edicts against circumcision were in effect under the rule of the Syrian Greeks in the Hanukkah story, and more recently, under the Soviets.

Earlier, during the regime of King Ahab (740 BCE), the Jews were also forbidden from circumcising their newborn sons. Elijah the Prophet beseeched G d, with fervent zeal, that no rain should fall until the decree was abolished.

G d said to the prophet, “You always display zeal, and you have displayed zeal now… from now on, Jews will never perform a circumcision without your participation.”

For this reason, at every circumcision, we designate a chair for Elijah the Prophet.5


When the child is brought into the area where the circumcision will be performed, the mohel, the ritual circumciser, announces “kvatter,” calling the parents’ messengers to bring the infant from the mother to where the circumcision will be performed. Together, the participants welcome the child with the words, “baruch haba”-“Blessed is he who comes.”6

The mohel proclaims:

Happy is the man You choose and bring near to dwell in Your courtyards; we will be satiated with the goodness of Your House, Your Holy Temple.

He continues with several verses describing Elijah’s zeal for G d and his reward.

The L rd spoke to Moses, saying: Pinehas, the son of Elazar [the High Priest], the son of Aaron the [High] Priest, has turned My wrath away from the children of Israel when he displayed anger among them in My behalf, so that I did not wipe out the children of Israel in My anger. Therefore say: I grant him My covenant of peace.

One of the attendees is given the honor of placing the baby on the chair of Elijah as the mohel chants, “This is the seat of Elijah…” The mohel also asks that Elijah stand to his right and protect him, so nothing will go wrong during the circumcision:

This is the Seat of Elijah the Prophet, may he be remembered for good. For Your deliverance I hope, O L rd. I have hoped for Your deliverance, L rd, and I have performed Your commandments. Elijah, angel of the Covenant, here is yours before you; stand at my right and support me. I rejoice in Your word, like one who finds great spoil. Those who love Your Torah have abounding peace, and there is no stumbling for them. Happy is the man You choose and bring near to dwell in Your courtyards; we will be satiated with the goodness of Your House, Your Holy Temple.

After the conclusion of the Seder’s Grace After Meals, there is a universally accepted custom to pour a cup of wine (the “Cup of Elijah”), open the front door of the home, and recite several verses (mostly from Psalms) wherein we beseech G d to pour His wrath upon our persecutors and oppressors.

According to tradition, at this moment our homes are graced by the presence of Elijah the prophet. There are multiple reasons and meanings behind this age-old tradition. Here are some of them:

Opening the Door for Elijah

1) The Torah describes the night of Passover as leil shimurim,1 a “guarded night.” It is the night when long ago G d protected the Jews from the plague which slew all the Egyptian firstborn, and the night when G d’s protection over His chosen nation is most apparent. Opening the door expresses our trust in G d’s protection.

2) When opening the door, we take the opportunity to invite in the prophet Elijah. Elijah is the one who visits the circumcision ceremony of every Jewish child, and testifies that the Jewish people are scrupulous regarding the mitzvah of circumcision.2 Males were permitted to partake of the paschal offering only if they were circumcised. Thus, Elijah comes to the Seder to “testify” that all present are indeed circumcised.

Additionally, according to the Midrash, on the night prior to the Exodus, the Seder night, the entire Jewish male population circumcised themselves—in order to be eligible to eat from the paschal lamb. Thus the clear connection between circumcision, and Elijah, and Passover eve.

Cup of Elijah

1) There is an open question in the Talmud whether we are obligated to have four or five cups on the night of Passover. Since the issue was never resolved, we pour a fifth cup, but do not drink it.

After heralding the coming of the Messiah, one of Elijah’s tasks will be to resolve all hitherto unanswered halachic questions. Thus, this fifth cup whose status is in doubt is dubbed “Elijah’s Cup,” in anticipation of the insight he will shed on the matter.

2) The four cups correspond to the four “expressions of redemption” promised by G d: “I will take you out from the suffering of Egypt, and I will deliver you from their bondage; I will redeem you with an outstretched arm and with great judgments. I will take you to Myself as a nation . . .”3 The fifth cup corresponds to the fifth expression of redemption, which comes in the following verse: “I will bring you to the Land . . .” This expression, however, is an allusion to the future messianic redemption, which will be announced by Elijah. This is also why we do not drink, “enjoy,” the fifth cup—as we have not yet experienced this redemption.

The timing of the pouring of the “Cup of Elijah” is also apropos, right before we start reading the Hallel, whose focus is on the future redemption (see Why do we divide the Hallel into two at the Passover Seder?). After commemorating the very first redemption of the Jewish people from Egypt we express our hope and firm belief in the coming of Moshiach, who will usher in the new and final redemption very very soon.

BirthIn Jewish law, although the human soul exists before birth, human life begins at birth, that is, at the time when the child is more than halfway emerged from the mother’s body. For more details about the consequences of this doctrine, see Abortion.Judaism completely rejects the notion of original sin. According to Judaism, a child is born pure, completely free from sin. We pray daily “Oh G-d, the soul which you gave me is pure. You created it, you fashioned it, you breathed it into me.”Birth by Caesarean section is permitted in Jewish law, as would be just about any procedure necessary to preserve the life of the mother or the child.Immediately after birth, a woman is considered niddah and must remain sexually separated from her husband for a period of seven days after the birth of a male child and 14 days after the birth of a female child. Lev. 12:2. This separation is the same as the regular monthly niddah separation. In the days of the Temple, when considerations of ritual purity were more important, a woman was considered partially impure for an additional period of 33 days after the birth of a male child and 66 days after the birth of a female child. No reason is stated why the period is longer for a female child than for a male child; however, one of my resources emphasizes that a female child is not more defiling than a male child, because the method of purification at the end of this period is the same for both genders.After a child is born, the father is given the honor of an aliyah (an opportunity to bless the reading of the Torah) in synagogue at the next opportunity. At that time, a blessing is recited for the health of the mother and the child. If the child is a girl, she is named at that time.
It is customary among Ashkenazic Jews to name a child after a recently deceased relative. This custom comes partly from a desire to honor the dead relative, and partly from superstition against naming a child after a living relative. It is almost unheard of for an Ashkenazic Jew to be named after his own father, though it does occasionally happen. Among Sephardic Jews, it is not unusual to name a child after a parent or living relative.

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    Mad Man John Trump keeps drawing another evil line in the sand that draws million of Christians – to their doom. Christianity in Americas has reached the point of No Return – as the Oath Keepers – testify.

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