Roza Bal and Sinclair


rozabell2A funny thing happened on the way to Sinclair Family Forum. I came upon Roza Bal the alleged burial place of Jesus who I have claimed worshipped Ba’al, in the form of Melqart. I have suggested that Ba’al and Woden are the same, and the Norseman adopted the Canaanite Ba’al religion via the Phoenucians of Carthage that was destroyed by Rome. Hannibal had a vision of Melqart who bid him to attack Rome. Hanna is Johanna “gift of god”. Hannibal lost one eye in battle and his fate is not known. I suspect he fled to the Norseman and became Woden. The Sinclairs trace their lineage to the Norseman, and claim they are kin to Jesus and Mary Magdalene, but, give no clue as to how Vikings came to follow a Semitic religion that would be passed down in a blooline. Hannibal made an alliance with the Burgundians.

There is a Voten in the Mayan history that some scholars say was a Carthaginian. Is the the Jesus-line that came to America, first? Jesus Ba’al said; “I have overcome the world.”

Eight years ago I was banned from the Sinclair yahoogroup when I challenged the clan by saying any linage from Jesus would have made much history, especially religious history. I pointed out the Rosamond/Rougemont lineage that I had done extensive genealogical study on, most of it by myself. I said I was led to study the Bible by Meher Baba. I said any lineage of Jesus would be steeped in the Torah and would own what it called Pesher which is a divine intuition to read the sub-Torah which I claimed Baba gave me – and my near-death experience.

I have come to The Gate. I am Bali ‘The Gate Keeper’.We will now descend into the lost world of Melqart-Jesus. Bali is a Indo-Aryan deity who achieved enlightenment. I will unite the Roza Mira prophets.

I suspect the great comet that is coming in October of 2013 will beome visible on my birthday October 8th. I am descended from the long-haired Comet Kings, who the Merovingians are kindred to.

Jon Presco

Copyright 2012
Having such a well-documented history allows members of our family a greater sense of their place in time, a feeling of connectedness to our ancestors. By that definition, we might feel more ancient than families whose histories are less well traced.
Now, using the Sinclair DNA website, you can help to honestly assess many of those stories and gain a far better understanding of the truth of Sinclair Genealogy.

The Burgundians (Latin: Burgundiōnes; Old Norse: Burgundar; Old English: Burgendas; Greek: Βούργουνδοι) were an East Germanic tribe which may have emigrated from mainland Scandinavia to the island of Bornholm, whose old form in Old Norse still was Burgundarholmr (the Island of the Burgundians), and from there to mainland Europe.

Roza Bal is the name of a shrine located in the Khanyaar quarter of the city of Srinagar in Kashmir (GPS: 34.085005,74.820196), venerated by some Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists. Some people identify the sage buried there with one Yuz Asaf, that is Jesus of Nazareth, whom they allege to have arrived in Kashmir after surviving his crucifixion. Several authors have held the view that Jesus had travelled to the Indian subcontinent including Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and the Russian traveler Nicolas Notovitch[citation needed]. The tomb has gained increasing popularity as the possible tomb of Jesus.[1] Historically, however, the Holy Sepulchre is considered by some Christians as the tomb of Christ.
The tomb itself consists of a low rectangular building on a raised platform, surrounded by railings at the front. It has three arches at the front, where entry can be had, and four arches at the side. Inside is a rock carving that is said to show feet bearing crucifixion wounds. The body is buried according to the Jewish tradition of directions and not according to the Islamic tradition.[2] However, the building also houses the burial tomb of a local Muslim saint, Mir Sayyid Naseeruddin, who was buried in line with Islamic directions.[2]
The tomb was previously maintained by local descendants of the buried sage. It is currently maintained by a Board of Directors consisting of Sunni Muslims. Sahibzada Basharat Saleem, a former caretaker (now deceased), claimed to hold genealogical tables that showed he was a direct descendant of the buried sage.[3]
In 2003, The BBC first televised a documentary that included a section on the story of Yuz Asaf titled “Did Jesus Die?”[2]
In 2010, the Govt. of India’s Film Division produced a comprehensive documentary film on the subject, titled “The Rozabal Shrine of Srinagar.” It was written & directed by Yashendra.

Indo-Aryan or Indic peoples are an Indo-European ethno-linguistic group referring to the wide collection of peoples united as native speakers of the Indo-Aryan branch of the Indo-Iranian family of Indo-European languages. Today, there are over one billion native speakers of Indo-Aryan languages, most of them native to South Asia, where they form the majority.

The spread of Indo-Aryan languages has been connected with the spread of the chariot in the first half of the 2nd millennium BCE. Some scholars trace the Indo-Aryans (both Indo-Aryans and European Aryans) back to the Andronovo culture (2nd millennium BCE). Other scholars[8] have argued that the Andronovo culture proper formed too late to be associated with the Indo-Aryans of India, and that no actual traces of the Andronovo culture (e.g. warrior burials or timber-frame materials) have been found in India and Southern countries like Sri Lanka and the Maldives.[9]
Archaeologist J.P. Mallory (1998) finds it “extraordinarily difficult to make a case for expansions from this northern region to northern India” and remarks that the proposed migration routes “only [get] the Indo-Iranian to Central Asia, but not as far as the seats of the Medes, Persians or Indo-Aryans

The Proto-Indo-Europeans were a patrilineal society, possibly semi-nomadic, relying largely on agriculture, but partly on animal husbandry, notably of cattle and sheep. They had domesticated horses – *eḱwos (cf. Latin equus). The cow (*gwous) played a central role, in religion and mythology as well as in daily life. A man’s wealth would have been measured by the number of his animals (small livestock), *peḱus (cf. English fee, Latin pecunia).
They practiced a polytheistic religion centered on sacrificial rites, probably administered by a priestly caste. Burials in barrows or tomb chambers apply to the kurgan culture, in accordance with the original version of the Kurgan hypothesis, but not to the previous Sredny Stog culture nor to the contemporary Corded Ware culture, both of which cultures are also generally associated with PIE. Important leaders would have been buried with their belongings in kurgans, and possibly also with members of their households or wives (human sacrifice, suttee).

Bals are descendents of Indo-Aryan tribes. According to the Mahabharata (Chapter -Adi Parva), they are the descendents of Bhagat Prahlada’s grandson Raja Bali (Mahabali).[1][2]
Bali, an asura, was the son of Devamba and Virochana. He grew up under the tutelage of his grandfather, Prahlada, who instilled in him a strong sense of righteousness and devotion.
Bali would eventually succeed his grandfather as the king of the Asuras, and his reign over the realm was characterized by peace and prosperity. He would later expand his realm – bringing the entire world under his benevolent rule – and was even able to conquer the underworld and Heaven, which he wrested from Indra and the Devas. The Devas, after their defeat at the hands of Bali, approached their patron Vishnu and entreated him to restore their lordship over Heaven.

In Indian religions moksha (Sanskrit: मोक्ष mokṣa; liberation) or mukti (Sanskrit: मुक्ति; release —both from the root muc “to let loose, let go”) is the final extrication of the soul or consciousness (purusha) from samsara and the bringing to an end of all the suffering involved in being subject to the cycle of repeated death and rebirth (reincarnation).

Baʿal of Tyre
Melqart is the son of El in the Phoenician triad of worship.[citation needed] He was the god of Tyre and was often called the Baʿal of Tyre.[citation needed] 1 Kings 16:31 relates that Ahab, king of Israel, married Jezebel, daughter of Ethba’al, king of the Sidonians, and then served habba’al (‘the Baʿal’.) The cult of this god was prominent in Israel until the reign of Jehu, who put an end to it.[citation needed] “And they brought out the pillars (massebahs) of the house of the Baʿal and burned them. And they pulled down the pillar (massebah) of the Baʿal and pulled down the house of the Baʿal and turned it into a latrine until this day.” The Magdalene Line series

Melqart, properly Phoenician Milk-Qart “King of the City”,[1] less accurately Melkart, Melkarth or Melgart, Akkadian Milqartu, was tutelary god of the Phoenician city of Tyre as Eshmun protected Sidon. Melqart was often titled Ba‘l Ṣūr “Lord of Tyre”, the ancestral king of the royal line. In Greek, by interpretatio graeca he was identified with Heracles and referred to as the Tyrian Herakles.

Melqart is likely to have been the particular Ba‘al found in the Tanach,[3] whose worship was prominently introduced to Israel by King Ahab and largely eradicated by King Jehu. In 1 Kings 18.27, it is possible that there is a mocking reference to legendary Heraclean journeys made by the god and to the annual egersis (“awakening”) of the god:

It is probable that Spain and Rome are interpolations. Cabrera claims that the Votanites were Carthaginians. He thinks the Chivim of Votan were the Hivim, or Givim, who were descended of Heth, son of Canaan,The Magdalene Line is a series of novels, featuring both fictitious and historical female characters which the author believes history has either misrepresented or obliterated.
Kathleen McGowan began working on the first novel The Expected One in 1989.[1] Focusing on the role of Mary Magdalene, it was self-published in 2005, and sold 2,500 copies.[1] On July 25, 2006, the book was re-published by Simon & Schuster under the Touchstone imprint.[1]
The second novel of the series is The Book of Love, published in 2009, focusing on the life of Saint Mathilda of Canossa.
The third novel of the series is The Poet Prince, published in 2010, focusing on the life of Lorenzo de Medici.
Each novel of the series features the fictitious heroine Maureen Paschal, who is tasked with uncovering alleged historical and Christian enigmas. Other fictitious characters include Berenger Sinclair and Tamara Wisdom, as well as the enigmatic character Destino.

The following is a list of persons who have publicly claimed to be from a Jesus bloodline:
Basharat Saleem, the late Kashmiri caretaker of the Martyr’s Tomb of Yuz Asaf in Srinagar.[7]
Michel Roger Lafosse, a Belgian false pretender to the throne of the former Kingdom of Scotland.[26][27]
Kathleen McGowan, an American author, lyricist, screenwriter.[28][29]

Bals are descendents of Indo-Aryan tribes. According to the Mahabharata (Chapter -Adi Parva), they are the descendents of Bhagat Prahlada’s grandson Raja Bali (Mahabali).[1][2]

Bali, an asura, was the son of Devamba and Virochana. He grew up under the tutelage of his grandfather, Prahlada, who instilled in him a strong sense of righteousness and devotion.
Bali would eventually succeed his grandfather as the king of the Asuras, and his reign over the realm was characterized by peace and prosperity. He would later expand his realm – bringing the entire world under his benevolent rule – and was even able to conquer the underworld and Heaven, which he wrested from Indra and the Devas. The Devas, after their defeat at the hands of Bali, approached their patron Vishnu and entreated him to restore their lordship over Heaven.
In Indian religions moksha (Sanskrit: मोक्ष mokṣa; liberation) or mukti (Sanskrit: मुक्ति; release —both from the root muc “to let loose, let go”) is the final extrication of the soul or consciousness (purusha) from samsara and the bringing to an end of all the suffering involved in being subject to the cycle of repeated death and rebirth (reincarnation).

Bali After Leaving Earth
It is said that Bali attained Moksha by atmanivedanam.[32] Krishna in the Sri Rūpa Gosvāmīs Bhakti-rasāmrta-sindhu[33] says that Bali came to Him or attained Him. According to the Adhatya Ramayana It is also said that Vamana is the guard of the gate of Bali’s planet Sutala[34][35] and will remain so forever.[36] Tulsidas’s Ramcharitmanas too declares that Vamana became the Dvarapala (gate-keeper) of Bali.[37] In the Vamana Puranna, it is written that Bali performed the Aswamedha sacrifice in the Kurukshetra, where Bali deprived Indra of his kingdom.[38]

Dvarapala (Sanskrit) is a door or gate guardian often portrayed as warrior or fearsome asura giant, usually armed with a weapon, the most common is gadha mace. The statue of dvarapala is a widespread architectural element throughout the Hindu and Buddhist cultures, as well as in the areas influenced by them like Java.
In reaction to The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, The Da Vinci Code, and other controversial books, websites and films on the same theme, a significant number of individuals in the late 20th and early 21st centuries have adhered to a Jesus bloodline hypothesis despite its lack of substantiation. While some simply entertain it as a novel intellectual proposition, others hold it as an established belief thought to be authoritative and not to be disputed.[30] Prominent among the latter are those who expect a direct descendant of Jesus will eventually emerge as a great man and become a messiah, a Great Monarch who rules a Holy European Empire, during an event which they will interpret as a mystical second coming of Christ.[31]
The eclectic spiritual views of these adherents are influenced by the writings of iconoclastic authors from a wide range of perspectives. These writers often seek to challenge modern beliefs and institutions through a re-interpretation of Christian history and mythology.[30] Some try to advance and understand the equality of men and women spiritually by portraying Mary Magdalene as being the apostle of a Christian feminism,[32] and even the personification of the mother goddess or sacred feminine,[33] usually associating her with the Black Madonna.[34] Some wish the ceremony that celebrated the beginning of the alleged marriage of Jesus and Mary Magdalene to be viewed as a “holy wedding”; and Jesus, Mary Magdalene, and their alleged daughter, Sarah, to be viewed as a “holy family”, in order to question traditional gender roles and family values.[35] Almost all these claims are at odds with scholarly Christian apologetics, and have been dismissed as being New Age Gnostic heresies.[1][36]

India Today, India’s most widely read weekly news magazine ranked The Rozabal Line among the top five fiction bestsellers in India [2] According to Tehelka, The Rozabal Line is “a thriller that inquires into the controversial claim that Jesus Christ travelled to India and was buried in Kashmir’s Roza Bal tomb”.[3] The Hindu, one of India’s National dailies, says that “The book deals in greater depth with the issue of Christ’s union with Mary Magdalene touched upon by The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown as well as incorporating postulates of several other books including Jesus Lived in India: Life Before and After the Crucifixion by Holger Kersten and Jesus Died In Kashmir: Jesus, Moses and The Ten Lost Tribes Of Israel by Andreas Kaiser”.[4]
The book also covers ground regarding the fact that Jesus sent St. Thomas, one of the 12 apostles to Kerala to preach there [5] The Rozabal Line kicks off with the theory that Yesu (or Jesus) may have fled Judea to study under Buddhist masters in India (the three wise men were Buddhist elders searching for a reincarnation in the manner that Dalai Lamas are searched for). It then goes one step further by building on Holger Kersten’s theory that Jesus did not die on the cross and that he was spirited away to safety by Essene monks. This foundation is used to build the storyline which goes something like this: Jesus returned to his spiritual home, India, and possibly married.

According to legend, Jesus, the great Jewish sage, spent his “lost years,” from between the ages of around 12 to 28 or 30, in India, where, per another tradition, he also escaped after surviving the crucifixion. The Jesus-was-a-guru tale was popularized over a century ago by the Russian traveler Nicholas Notovitch. Notovitch asserted that in 1887, while at the secluded Hemis or Himis monastery in Ladakh/Tibet, he was shown a manuscript which discussed the “unknown life” of Jesus, or “Issa,” as he was supposedly called in the East. This “Issa” text, translated for Notovitch from Tibetan by a monk/lama, alleged that during his “lost years” Jesus was educated by yogis in India, Nepal and “the Himalaya Mountains.”

Stating that he felt the manuscript to be “true and genuine,” Notovich maintained its contents were written “immediately after the Resurrection,” while the manuscript itself purportedly dated from the third century of the Common Era. Notovitch related that the “two manuscripts” he was shown at Himis were “compiled from diverse copies written in the Thibetan tongue, translated from rolls belonging to the Lassa library and brought from India, Nepal, and Maghada 200 years after Christ.” (Notovitch, 44)

Pesher i/ˈpɛʃər/ (Hebrew: פשר, pl. pesharim) comes from a Hebrew word meaning “interpretation” in the sense of “solution.” It became known from one group of texts, numbering some hundreds, among the Dead Sea Scrolls.
The pesharim give a theory of scriptural interpretation, previously partly known, but now fully defined. The writers of pesharim believe that scripture is written in two levels, the surface for ordinary readers with limited knowledge, the concealed one for specialists with higher knowledge. This is most clearly spelled out in the Habakkuk Pesher (1QpHab), where the author of the text asserts that God has made known to the Teacher of Righteousness, a prominent figure within the history of the Essene community, “all the mysteries of his servants the prophets” (1QpHab VII:4-5). By contrast, the prophets themselves only had a partial interpretation revealed to them.

Types of pesharim
There are generally considered to be two types of pesharim. Continuous pesharim take a book of the Hebrew Bible, often from the prophets, such as those of Habakkuk, Nahum, or from the Psalms, quote it phrase by phrase, and after each quotation insert an interpretation. The second type, the thematic pesharim use the same method, but here the author (or pesharist) brings together passages from different biblical texts to develop a theme. Examples of the latter include the Florilegium and what has been termed the Melchizedek Midrash. Smaller examples of pesher interpretations can also be found within other texts from Qumran, including the Damascus Document. The method has been likened to later forms of rabbinic biblical interpretation found in the midrash, termed midrash haggadah and midrash halakhah, although there are some significant differences. William Brownlee, the author of a textual study of the Habakkuk Pesher, even proposed a third category of midrash, namely midrash pesher. In general, however, scholars are divided as to whether the pesharim are a distinct genre.
The term pesher itself is used within these texts as a terminus technicus (although this is a gross simplification) to differentiate between the biblical text and its interpretation. Typical examples include: “its interpretation is/concerns” (pishro/pishro al); and “the interpretation of the word/passage is” (pesher ha-davar). It has been suggested that the Semitic root derives from a base meaning of ‘loosen’ and a similar term appears in the Hebrew Bible in connection with the interpretation of dreams. The Ancient Near Eastern roots are fully discussed by Maurya Horgan in her comprehensive study of the pesharim.
[edit] Historic individuals
The pesharim are the main source for the history of the Teacher of Righteousness and his rival the Wicked Priest, but the texts also refer to a number of other individuals, such as the Liar (or ‘Scoffer’), and groups, including the Kittim, Ephraim and Manasseh, who it is suggested refer to the Romans, Pharisees and Sadducees respectively. The authors of these texts claim that these references were fully integral to the original text, whose full meaning has been subsequently revealed by the Teacher. Such philosophical claims are similar to those found throughout the region at the beginnings of the Common Era, as evidenced by the many mystery cults of Mithras, Isis, Dionysus,[citation needed] and others active at the time; the tradition continued through the Gnostic movements both Christian and non-Christian, and is still prevalent today among certain fundamentalist Muslim and Christian groups with a heavy emphasis on Holy Scripture.

A 1stC BC Messiah figure
Michael O. Wise posits that the Teacher of Righteousness was the “first messiah”, a figure predating Jesus by roughly 100 years.[9] This figure – whom Wise believes was named Judah – rose to prominence during the reign of Alexander Jannaeus, and had been a priest, and confidant to the king. However, he became dissatisfied with the religious sects in Jerusalem, and in reaction, founded a “crisis cult”. While amassing a following, the Teacher (and his followers) claimed he was the fulfillment of various Biblical prophecies, with an emphasis on those found in Isaiah. The Teacher was eventually killed by the religious leadership in Jerusalem, and his followers hailed him as messianic figure who had been exalted to the presence of God’s throne. They then anticipated that the Teacher would return to judge the wicked and lead the righteous into a golden age, and that it would take place within the next forty years. Wise explains that dating of manuscript copies among the Dead Sea Scrolls shows that the Teacher’s postmortem following drastically increased in size over several years, but that when the predicted time frame failed to live up to expectations, his following dissipated rapidly.
[edit] A Sadducee priest
Other documents from the Dead Sea Scrolls portray the Teacher as involved in heavy conflict against a figure termed the “Wicked Priest”, which has led to several proposals for their identity: A Sadducees(Zadokim) priest as the Teacher, possibly even the legitimate high priest, against a “wicked” Jonathan Maccabee, a significant conflict mentioned in the Books of Maccabees. “Zadok” in Hebrew (צדוק) translates as “righteous.”
[edit] Hillel against Shammai
Rabbi Harvey Falk identifies Hillel the Elder as the Teacher, against a “wicked” Shammai, a significant conflict mentioned in the Talmud (Jerusalem Talmud Shabbat 1:4).[10] Most scholars date the Damascus Document and many of the Dead Sea scrolls to the decades around the year 100 BCE, vastly predating Hillel and Shammai; however, radio carbon dating tests done upon a copy of the Damascus Document placed it between 44 BCE and 129 CE.
[edit] James, brother of Jesus, against Paul
Robert Eisenman has proposed James, brother of Jesus as the Teacher against a “Wicked Priest” (Ananus ben Ananus), and a “Spouter of Lies” which Eisenman identifies as Paul of Tarsus.[11][12] However, the introduction of the Teacher of Righteousness in the Damascus Document (CD 1:5-11) places the ascendance of this figure just prior to the outbreak of the Maccabean revolt sometime in the first half of the second century BCE.[13] That date is roughly two hundred years too early to be James, the brother of Jesus.

This is called The DNA of God Project because seven graves along the Old Silk Road have been linked with Biblical stories,
and with each other as a family. They may have traveled here following the history of many dispersed tribes of Israel.
A comprehensive archaeological survey will be done at each site, led by local archaeologists from each country. Where DNA
can be recovered (as through strands of hair or a small bone fragment) the DNA will be analyzed and compared with the other
graves to see if they are indeed related. The DNA will further be compared with modern claimants who believe these graves
are their ancient ancestors. The DNA will help determine if the family of Jesus were connected with local Pashtuns (HERE and
HERE) or ancient Tocharians (HERE). The graves are in three countries along the Old Silk route: Pakistan, India (Kashmir) and
China, as shown on the above map.


This grave is located in Tanda, a small village a few miles north of Sialkot. It is one of a series of Barrow style graves (HERE)
on a hillside, each about 30 feet or 98.4 meters in length (also known as tumulus or kurgan style graves). A local historian,
Mohammed Zaman Khokhar thoroughly researched these graves for years. He wrote a book in six volumes (published in
2000) “The Ten Yard Graves of the Beloved of Pakistan.”

JOSEPH (Father of Jesus)

In Pashtun, the predominant local population and language, Joseph becomes Yusaf, thus the name Yuz Asaf, as ‘son of
Joseph’ links Joseph the father with Jesus, his son buried nearby in Srinagar. Several years ago Pakistan TV aired a
documentary film about this grave. It is alleged to be the grave of Joseph, father of Jesus. The documentary was made by a
local independent film crew based on the legends surrounding this grave. Since then, the film had been forgotten and is now
lost. Efforts are underway to relocate the site and include this grave in the project.

MARY (Mother of Jesus)

The grave of Mary is well known. It has been written about extensively around the world. It is situated on a hilltop in the
Himalayan Mountains, in an area known as the Punjab (Rawalpindi). The name of the town is now Murree. It was originally
known as Mari, named after Mary (Hazrat Mariam in the Quran). Local residents have always supported efforts to locate this
grave and move it to a safer location. The site has been disturbed several times by construction and by bomb attacks against
the transmission tower on the hilltop.

There is another interesting legend associated with this grave. It is about the donkey that pulled the cart of Mother Mary up the
steep mountain for her burial. It had made the long journey from the Holy Land with Mary. Soon after Mary’s burial on the
mountain, the donkey collapsed of exhaustion and died in the region around Muzaffarabad. Following an ancient Egyptian
tradition, Jesus buried the donkey with full honors. I made several attempts to locate this grave in the heavily forested
mountains but was unsuccessful. There have been no plans to retrieve the donkey’s DNA.

Origins of the Votan storyThe story of Votan in Mexico dates back to at least the late 17th century. It was first published in Constituciones diocesanas del obispado de Chiappa (1702) by Francisco Núñez de la Vega, Bishop of Chiapas. According to Francisco Javier Clavijero:

F. Núñez de la Vega, bishop of Chiapa, says, in the preface to his Synodal Constitutions, that in the visit which he made to his diocese towards the end of the last century [i.e. the late 1600s], he found many ancient calendars of the Chiapanese, and an old manuscript in the language of that country, made by the Indians themselves, in which it was said, according to their ancient tradition, that a certain person named Votan was present at that great building, which was made by order of his uncle, in order to mount up to heaven; that then every people was given its language, and that Votan himself was charged by God to make the division of the lands of Anahuac. The prelate adds afterwards, that there was in his time in Teopixca a great settlement of that diocese, a family of the surname of Votan, who were the reputed descendants of that ancient populator. We are not here endeavoring to give the antiquity to the populator of America on the faith of the Chiapanese, but merely to shew that the Americans conceived themselves the descendants of Noah.[1]

In his account, Bishop Núñez de Vega also states that Votan belonged to the royal lineage of “Cham” (probably “chan” or snake) and that he established a kingdom called “Na Chan” (Snake House) on the Usumacinta River that eventually extended across Chiapas and Soconusco to the Pacific Coast.[2] Additional information can be found in a 1786 publication by Antonio del Río[3] that cites the same sources as Clavigero and speculates at length on Votan’s identity and travels to the Old World.

[edit] Associations with the Old WorldAt a time when the origins of Pre-Columbian cultures were poorly understood, these clerics associated Votan with the Biblical stories of the Tower of Babel and Noah, speculating that he had come to Mexico from the Old World. This tradition has been perpetuated by additional fantastic speculations that have been sharply critiqued by subsequent scholarship. This includes the association of Votan with Palenque by Ramon de Ordoñez y Aguilar, a priest who had lived near the site and wrote one of the earliest descriptions of the ruins in 1773. Ordoñez apparently incorporated some of the information that had been collected earlier by Bishop Núñez de la Vega into a document called the Probanza de Votan. “This strange work contained some fragments from Ximénez and a confused account of Votan, culture hero of the Tzeltal people, who, according to Ordoñez, had built Palenque. Fantastic details described Votan’s four trips back to the Middle East.”[4] The Tzeltal are an ethnic group that occupies the region that includes Teopisca, Chiapas, about 113 km southeast of Palenque. In the late 17th century, two hundred Tzeltal families “of Votan’s ancestry” are said to have been living in Comitlan.[2]

Assertion of a relationship between Votan and Odin is found in the work of the distinguished geographer Alexander von Humboldt, who wrote in Vues des Cordillères (1810):

We have fixed the special attention of our readers upon this Votan, or Wodan, an American who appears in the same family with the Wods or Odins of the Goths and of the people of Celtic origins. Since, according to the learned researches of Sir William Jones, Odin and Buddha are probably the same person, it is curious to see the names of Bondvar, Wodansdag, and Votan designating in India, Scandinavia, and in Mexico the day of a brief period.[5]

In Histoire des nations civilisées du Mexique et de l’Amérique Centrale (1857), Charles Étienne Brasseur de Bourbourg claimed Votan was an ancient Phoenician legislateur who had migrated from the Middle East to the Maya area, defeated a race called the Quiname, built the city of Palenque, and established an empire called Xibalba that was postulated by Brasseur de Bourbourg to have once covered all of Mexico and part of the United States. Subsequent Mayanist scholarship has found little support for Phoenician contact with ancient Mesoamerica, and identifies Xibalba as a mythical place rather than a political entity.

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