John Astor Corresponds With Thomas Jefferson

It is 2:15 A.M. January 31, 2020…..a day that will go down in infamy!  Officially, Great Britain left the European Union, and, officially the Republican Party, is dead, and so is the Democracy that Thomas Jefferson helped found. The President of Oregon State, and his crack team of historians, blamed my kindred, Senator Thomas Hard Benton for Manifest Destiny, and thus, the liquidation of Native Americans, that MAYBE should not have happened, but, it did! What would be the alternative – outcome? This question can be applied to Britex, and, the wanton need to destroy the Democratic Party – and the Bohemian Way of Life – that was once titled “The fastest growing religion in America.” This is to say the Evangelical Tea Party Ministers had no choice but to accuse President Obama of things he did not do, and, doing all he could to destroy Jesus and the Republican Party co-founded by my kindred, John Fremont, the first Presidential candidate for the Republican Party, and friend of the Astor family. John’s father-in-law was John Astor’s attorney. To top all this off, Washington Irving wrote a book about Astor that was reviewed by Edgar Alan Poe. Add this my Puritan kin, then….here it is…..Oregon’s History in a nutshell, along with California and Washington State. Am I thinking about SECESSION on the this most darkest of nights….where every other person hate the other – with a passion! And it will get worse – much worse!

WE HAVE NO HISTORY……OR RULE OF LAW! Our Constitution is burning in hell! No doubt Jessie Benton’s book of her husband’s explorations was inspired by Irving’s famous book, thus, Ed Ray and his historians – copped out! They dare not go after a famous woman, and one of the most famous writers in history! Because, then – you have no college or university – and right to teach anyone! What woke me was the realization that my struggle to be a mature human being, has been dashed upon the rocks by a collective of morons! How about…Murderous, Un-cultured, Savages using a skinned Jesus as a disguise?  Astor is playing a game with the Russians. He and Jefferson, need  pawns.

I believe I just composed a FARREL BLOCK!

John Presco

President: Royal Rosamond Press

“Although Washington Irving (1783-1859) never traveled to Oregon Country, he wrote one of the most widely read and influential narratives of the region. His two-volume Astoria, or Anecdotes of an Enterprise beyond the Rocky Mountains, published in 1836, introduced more readers to the Pacific Northwest than any single book up to that time.

Irving was a diplomatic attaché to the U.S. embassy in Madrid, Spain, secretary of the U.S. Embassy and Consulates in England, and the biographer of Christopher Columbus and George Washington. He was the author of satirical and hyperbolic works that poked fun at academic literature, such as Salmangundi in 1807 and A History of New York by Diedrich Knickerbocker in 1809. He also wrote immensely popular stories, including “Rip Van Winkle,” and “The Legend of Sleepy Hollow,” which appeared in A Sketchbook (using a pseudonym, Gregory Crayon) in 1819. Tour on the Prairies, published in 1819, is an account of Irving’s only trip west of the Mississippi. His contemporaries called him the Father of American Literature.

In 1834, John Jacob Astor, who named Fort Astoria, offered to pay Irving to write a book promoting the Northwest and, in particular, his Pacific Fur Company, which was the first American fur trading company on the Pacific Coast (1811-1813). The company had failed, but Astor wanted his enterprise both documented and praised. Irving agreed to use Astor’s resources and journals from the Columbia River Basin outposts, but he insisted on producing his own book as an independent speculation rather than the public relations book Astor wanted. He used Astor’s money to hire his nephew, Pierre Munro Irving, who spent two years doing research for the book.

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John Jacob Astor to Thomas Jefferson, 14 March 1812

From John Jacob Astor

New York, 14 March 1812.

Sir,

I am induced to take the liberty of addressing you, from a belief that it will afford you some satisfaction to be informed of the progress which has been made in carrying on a trade with the Indians, which at it’s commencement was favoured with your approbation.

Since I had the pleasure of speaking to you first at Washington concerning it, my constant study has been to attain the object; and for this purpose I sent a ship in November 1809 to Columbia River, the captain of which had several times been there, and enjoyed both the esteem and confidence of the Indians. He took with him a cargo for trade, while in the mean time he was to prepare the Indians for a friendly reception to some white men who would come to stay with them. From thence he was to proceed to the Russian settlement, with a proposition to the Governor for the purpose of friendly intercourse and mutual benefit in trade.

In June 1810 I sent a party of men, say about seventy in number, to ascend the Missouri, with a view to make Columbia River and meet the people who had gone by water, as well as to ascertain the points at which it might be most proper to establish posts for trade, &c.

In September 1810 I sent a second ship to Columbia River, with sixty men and all the means which were thought necessary to establish a post at or near the mouth of that river.

In October 1811 I sent a third ship with above sixty men and all necessaries, to fix a post and to remain at or near Columbia River, and to cooperate with those who had gone before.

The first ship made her port, and from thence made a visit to Count Barranoff, Governor of the Russian settlements in North West America. My propositions met with attention, and I have received from him a letter approving of my plan; but for a final arrangement he referred to the Government and the Russian American Fur Company at St Petersburg. The ship made a voyage to Canton, sold her furs, and returned to Columbia River to meet the one which sailed in 1810, and to concert with her. I hope to hear from them in about three months.

The last account which I had of the party which ascended the Missouri was by letter of 17 July last, about 180 miles below the Mandan1 Village, where they left the Missouri, and took the Big River in a southern course, this being recommended as nearer and easier to the south branch of Columbia River than the route taken by Mr Lewis: they were well provided, and had procured near a hundred horses to transport their baggage.—The accounts as to ultimate success were fair and encouraging, and they had no doubt of meeting their friends who went by sea; which I think they must have done in October last.

In June 1809, when Mr Daschkoff was sent to this country, he was charged by his Government to remonstrate to ours against a trade carried on by citizens of the United States to the North West Coast, supplying the Indians with arms & ammunition, which not only afforded the means of killing one another with greater facility, but also endangered their own settlements.—As the Government could not well prevent this, I proposed a plan to Mr Daschkoff which it was thought would meet the end required, namely, an agreement between the American Fur Company of this country and the American Fur Company of Russia, that the former should supply the latter with all articles which they needed from this country and from Europe, (thus becoming their carriers &c) and to have an establishment at or near Columbia; but not to trade with natives near the Russian settlements, and by no means to supply them with arms or ammunition. On the other hand the latter not to deal with any transient traders or ships, nor with the natives at or near Columbia River. This plan was submitted to the Governor of the Russian settlements on the North West Course, who approved of it.

When Count Pahlen came to this country, he also was charged by his government to speak to our government on this Subject.2 I communicated the plan to him, who was so much pleased with it that he transmitted it to his Court. I sent a gentleman for this purpose to St Petersburg, who presented it to Count Romanskoff, who also is much pleased with it, but there exists some difficulty as to a condition which I had proposed, namely, that the Russian Government should allow the American Fur Company to carry their articles of fur from this country to Russia free of duty, or subject to a moderate duty only (at present they are prohibited). The Government seems well enough disposed to grant this, but it appears there was an engagement entered into between them and the Fur Company at the time of its formation, prohibiting the entry of furs except by the Russian Fur Company, who had not yet felt inclined to consent to the admission. There was however still some hope: to all the other propositions they were ready to agree. Should this plan succeed, I think we shall do very well as far as respects that part of our business.

With respect to our Trade on the frontier and in the Interior, I have not been so fortunate: on the contrary great and insurmountable difficulties are thrown in our way by the present restrictions on our commerce.

After negociating with the Michilimackinac Company for nearly three years to purchase them out, and not succeeding, I had determined to risk an opposition; and accordingly in October 1810 I ordered a quantity of goods from England for this trade, and made engagements with several Indian traders and others, to carry on the business. The people of Canada being informed of this, & knowing that an opposition would be very injurious, and at the same time seeing that I was determined to push one, they proposed to sell to the American Fur Company the property and establishments they had in the Indian country within the territory and boundaries of the United States, together with that at St Joseph’s, on condition that we should not for five years trade beyond those boundaries or in British dominions in opposition to them; and that for five years the trade within those limits should be carried on upon joint account. This agreement was completed, and by it the American Fur Company became possessed of the property before mentioned: but as the assortment of goods on hand at St Joseph’s, Michilimackinac and other places, was very incomplete for outfits in the interior, it became necessary to obtain a further supply, and we were in hopes that by some change in our political situation we might be enabled to bring in our goods which we had ordered from England, and which had been Transported to St Joseph’s (for in consequence of the President’s proclamation they had been shipped, though before the 2 Feby 1811, to Canada instead of New York.) But very unfortunately for us our expectations have not been realised. On application to the President in August last we were informed that Congress had left no power with the Executive to grant permission. The consequence has been, that the Indians have been very badly and not half supplied; and though in the mean while we have been under the necessity of retaining in pay the people we had engaged, as well as of keeping up all our establishments at the usual expense, yet we have been unable to carry our business to more than a fourth of it’s usual extent.

This dead expense is a serious loss to us, beside the interest on a stock on hand, chief part of which is unsaleable from want of other articles; while on the other hand the useful & saleable commodities lie locked up at Montreal and St Joseph’s. If we had only a part of them in the Indian country or at Michilimakinac, we could make out to keep the Indians3 contented, and keep the trade together in our own hands. But unless this is the case, we shall be under the necessity of selling our property to great sacrifice (as the articles are not saleable except for the Indian trade) either to the British agents for the Indian department of that Government, or to the Canada traders: thus totally relinquishing the trade to them.—

I have been thinking to apply to Congress for relief, at least to get permission to transport our property from the island of St Joseph to the Indian country within the territory or boundary of the United States.

Whether such application would be likely to meet with success, or whether in the present state of things it would be proper to make it, I have not been able to determine. I am so much embarrassed I know not what to do. It is probable that unless our Government do something by which the Indians may get their usual supplies (and which are not now to be had in the United States) there will be great uneasiness on their part, if not actual hostility: for they will become desperate by those privations: under which indeed they cannot exist.—

Perhaps, Sir, you will condescend to give some advice to me how to proceed. The Government, say the President and heads of Executive Departments, are well informed of the situation of the American Fur Company, as no step of importance has been taken without their previous approbation: they know of my plan with the Russians, as well as of my arrangements in the Interior.

The party which ascended the Missouri is under the direction of a very respectable gentleman from Trenton, New Jersey, by the name of Hunt.

The North West Company of Canada having received information of our intention to establish a post at Columbia, sent a party of forty men in 1810 from Lake Superior, with intent to be before us; but they were prevented by Indians in the Rocky Mountains from proceeding further, and were obliged to return. Another party has been sent in 1811 from the same place and for the same object, consisting of sixty men. We shall know next summer how far they have succeeded; at all events I think we must be ahead of them.

By what I can learn there is a great deal of fur on the west side of the mountains, and a considerable business is to be done on the coast with the Russians.

I am with Great Respect Sir your very Humble Servt,

John Jacob Astor

N.B. I will thank you To consider that part of my Comunication which relates to the contemplated4 arrangement with the Russians as Privet

RC (DLC); in a clerk’s hand, with closing, signature, and postscript by Astor; above postscript in Astor’s hand: “Thomas Jefferson Esqr”; endorsed by TJ as received 25 Mar. 1812 and so recorded in SJL.

John Jacob Astor (1763–1848), merchant, was born in Germany, moved to London in 1779, and settled in New York City in 1784. There he began his career importing musical instruments but quickly moved into the fur trade. By 1787 Astor had begun making trips to Montreal, where he established a warehouse and entered into agreements with local traders. He soon became a leading trader in the Montreal and London markets, and late in the 1790s he began trading directly with China. A millionaire by 1807, Astor sought assistance from local and federal officials, including DeWitt Clinton and Albert Gallatin, in establishing an American fur-trading company that would bypass Canadian traders. His efforts to set up fur-trading outlets on the West Coast failed, and following the War of 1812 Astor concentrated on the Great Lakes region. After a brief involvement in the administration of the Second Bank of the United States, in 1819 he entrusted the management of his American Fur Company to partners and moved to Europe. When he returned to the United States in 1834, Astor sold his fur-trading company and devoted himself to his extensive real-estate holdings in New York City, where he opened the Astor House hotel in 1836 (ANB; DAB; James P. Ronda, Astoria & Empire [1990]).

The meeting between TJ and Astor at washington probably occurred in July 1808 (Astor to TJ, 27 Feb. 1808, TJ to Astor, 13 Apr. 1808, and TJ to Meriwether Lewis, 17 July 1808 [DLC]; Daniel D. Tompkins to TJ, 9 May 1808 [MHi]). In november 1809 Astor sent out the ship Enterprize, under Captain John Ebbets. Wilson Price Hunt commanded the land expedition he sent in june 1810. The ship dispatched to the Columbia River in september 1810 was the Tonquin, and the third ship, sent in October 1811, was the Beaver. Aleksandr A. Baranov wrote Astor tentatively approving of my plan on 8 Aug. 1810. The gentleman Astor sent to Saint Petersburg to present his plan to count romanskoff (Nicolas de Romanzoff) was his son-in-law Adrian Benjamin Bentzon (Bashkina, United States and Russia, esp. 687–9, 728–32, 797–9, 820; Ronda, Astoria & Empire, 72, 78, 101, 211). The president’s proclamation of 2 Nov. 1810 reimposed restrictions on American trade with Great Britain and moved Astor to have his trade goods shipped from Europe to canada instead of new york. A subsequent United States statute of 2 Mar. 1811 exempted American-owned ships and goods that departed from British ports prior to 2 Feb. 1811 (Madison, Papers, Pres. Ser., 2:612–3; U.S. Statutes at Large, 2:651–2).

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To John Jacob Astor

Monticello May 24. 12

 

Sir

 

Your letter of Mar. 14. lingered much on the road & a long journey, before I could answer it, has delayed it’s acknolegement till now. I am sorry your enterprise for establishing a factory on the Columbia river, and a commerce thro’ the line of that river and the Missouri, should meet with the difficulties stated in your letter. I remember well having invited your proposition on that subject, and encouraged it with the assurance of every facility and protection which the government could properly afford. I considered as a great public acquisition the commencement of a settlement on that point of the Western coast of America, & looked forward with gratification to the time when it’s descendants should have spread themselves thro’ the whole length of that coast, covering it with free and independant Americans, unconnected with us but by the ties of blood & interest, and enjoying like us the rights of self-government. I hope the obstacles you state are not unsurmountable; that they will not endanger, or even delay the accomplishment of so great a public purpose. in the present state of affairs between Gr. Britain & us, the government is justly jealous of contraventions of those commercial restrictions which have been deemed necessary to exclude the use of British manufactures in these states & to promote the establishment of similar ones among ourselves. the interests too of the revenue require particular watchfulness. but in the non-importation of British manufactures, and the revenue raised on foreign goods, the legislature could only have in view the consumption of our own citizens, and the revenue to be levied on that. we certainly did not mean to interfere with the consumption of nations foreign to us, as the Indians of the Columbia & Missouri are, or to assume a right of levying an impost on that consumption: and if the words of the laws take in their supplies in either view, it was probably unintentional, and because their case, not being under the contemplation of the legislature, has been inadvertently embraced by it. the question with them would be not what manufactures these nations1 should use, or what taxes they should pay us on them, but whether we will give a transit for them thro’ our country. we have a right to say we will not let the British exercise that transit. but it is our interest, as well as a neighborly duty to allow it when exercised by our own citizens only. to guard against any surreptitious introduction of British influence among those nations, we may justifiably require that no Englishman be permitted to go with the trading parties, and necessary precautions2 should also be taken to prevent this covering the contravention of our own Laws and views. but these once securely3 guarded, our interest would permit the transit free of duty. and I do presume that if the subject were fully presented to the legislature, they would provide that the laws, intended to guard our own concerns only, should not assume the regulation of those of foreign and independant nations; still less that they should stand in the way of so interesting an object as that of planting the germ of an American population on the shores of the Pacific.

from medling however with these subjects it is my duty as well as my inclination to abstain. they are in hands perfectly qualified to direct them, and who knowing better the present state of things, are better able to decide what is right: and whatever they decide on a full view of the case, I shall implicitly confide has been rightly decided. Accept my best wishes for your success, and the assurance of my great esteem & respect.

Th: Jefferson

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