Just over a month ago, via a DNA test, I discovered I am kin to Rosamond de Clifford, Ben Toney’s very close relative. We are in the same family tree. In this Rosy Tree, is Eleanor of Aquitaine who went on the Second Crusade dressed in armor with a hundred maidens on horseback, also in armor. Many of our royal kin went on Crusade.
On this day, August 18, 2018, I am bid me to tell you the word Crusade is only applicable to those who went on Crusade to the Holy Land. I hereby Copyright that word. I declare the Christian Zionist movement, a heresy, and apologize to the Jews and Islam for the Crusade, that was extremely abusive and violent towards the peoples who dwelt there for thousands of years – if not millions!
John ‘The Nazarite’
IMAGES: Godfrey de Bouillon. Rosamond and Eleanor. King Henry, Eleanor, and their Crusader son, Richard, at rest. Note the Star of David.
Henry II Count of Anjou, Duke of Normandy and First Plantagenet King of England Henry II was born in 1133 at Le Mans, France and died July 6, 1189 near Tours, France. When he was only 20 years of age, he married the divorced former queen of France, Eleanor of Aquitane. Louis III of France repudiated Eleanor for misconduct and through a papal decree divorced her March 21, 1152. Of course the divorce was probably enacted because Eleanor had not borne an heir for Louis. Nonetheless, on 18 May 1153 Henry II married Eleanor who was 11 years his senior. However, Eleanor was not a disappointment to Henry for between 1153 and 1167 she bore him eight children, among them were four sons, Henry, Geoffrey, Richard, and John who lived to adulthood. As was often the case with political marriages, there was not a great fulfillment between the parties involved. So, it was not surprising that Henry went searching for love in the arms of other women. In his search he found many willing young maidens who shared his love and his bed.
Some years before he became king, Henry was a friend of his distant cousin Ralph de Toney V. It was likely through Ralph that he was introduced to Ralph’s first cousin the enchanting and lovely damsel, Fair Rosamond de Clifford, daughter of Walter and Margaret (de Toney) Clifford. Henry II, Ralph, and Rosamond were all descendants of Godehildis de Toney d’Evreux. They were also descended from Simon de Montford l’Amaury (thought by some to have been the grandson of Robert the Pious, King of France). It was Rosamond who became the love of Henry’s life. He placed her in a beautiful castle at Woodstock, which is about 9 miles NW of the city of Oxford. (Woodstock is where Blenheim Palace was later built, the birthplace of Sir Winston Churchill). Unfortunately, this historic love affair ended in 1176 when Rosamond fell ill and died with a lung ailment at the age of 36 years. It seems that Henry was well taken with the Toney women. One of his other mistresses was one Ida de Toney. Gertrude de Toney was sometimes confused with this Ida because she was on occasion known as Ida herself. Gertrude’s daughter-in-law was Ida de Chaumont who was married to her son Roger de Toney the younger, her husband being Roger de Toney II. Some writers have been tempted to assert that Gertrude was one of Henry II’s mistresses. This, however, is unlikely because Gertrude was 16 or 17 years older than Henry, and a woman of that age would not have appealed to Henry’s taste. He preferred the younger damsels. It was probably a misinterpretation of the following text that led to the notion that Gertrude had an amorous connection with Henry II: The Victoria History of the County of Oxford p. 137 (Garsington Manor)
…In 1255, the jurors said that the avus (grandfather) of King Henry III gave his land to Ida de Tony pro servio suo (for her service). Ida presumably one of Henry II’s mistresses, was the daughter of Robert de Chaumont, and wife of Roger de Tony, a tenant-in-chief and member of a junior branch of the Tony family, the caput of whose barony was at Flamstead (Herts.). It is possible that she was given Garsington by Henry II as a maritagium (wedding gift ?). She was in possession in 1201, when Adam Buciute a London merchant quitclaimed his right to the property during her life. Ida was alive in 1203-4, but apparently dead by 1206 when her son Baldwin de Tony was trying to prove in the king’s court his father’s right to property in Garsington. It should be obvious to the casual observer that the preceding text refers to Ida the daughter-in-law of Gertrude rather than Gertrude herself. Gertrude was the daughter of the Count of Hainault, not Robert de Chaumont. Her husband Roger de Toney II was the tenant-in-chief of the main line of Toneys, not a junior line. Some have tried to tie in the death of Ida de Chaumont, shown in this text, with that of Gertrude. There is no evidence here of Gertrude’s time of death. One would conclude that this was the finish of Henry II’s affairs with the Toney women. There is more to be told. In the year 1162 Ralph de Toney V died leaving four year old Ida and her two year old brother Roger who would later become Roger III. These two children were made wards of Henry II. As time went on, Ida became Henry’s mistress, and in the year 1176, when she was eighteen years old she bore him a son who was later called William Longsword. For many years William was thought to have been the son of Rosamond Clifford; however, a London cartilary of the abbey at Bradenststoke (Wiltshire) found in 1979 in William’s own words said “Comitissa Ida mater mea” (Countess Ida my mother). Around Christmas of 1181 Ida de Toney was given in marriage by Henry II to Roger de Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk. This made Ida the Countess of Norfolk. She had several children from this marriage including Hugh, Ralph and Roger. One of these sons was cited in a later document by William Longsword as his brother. There is little doubt that Ida de Toney was the mother of William Longsword, Earl of Salisbury.
As time went on, the Toneys began to become more attached to their English possessions as opposed to their lands in Normandy. This had more to do with economics than anything else. Nonetheless, they had become well attached to their Plantagenet cousins and were often seen in their presence. As an example, when King Richard I joined the French King Philip August on the second crusade of 1192-93, Roger de Toney III became a member of Richard’s party rather than the party of Philip.