I am going to hang Sarah around Trump’s neck like an albatross. She was the poster girl for Alaskan Secessionist. In response to the children against assault weapons, South Carolina is talking about seceding again. Waaah! Suckle! Suckle! Do the little babies need to clutch their guns and Bible’s down in that Impotent Hole they dug for themselves?
My ancestors were the Real McCoys!
Jon ‘The Nazarite’
South Carolina debated seceding from the Union more than 150 years ago, one of the opening salvos of the Civil War. Now, the topic has come up again, amid a national debate over firearms and gun rights.
A trio of state House Republicans on Thursday quietly introduced a bill that would allow lawmakers to debate seceding from the U.S. “if the federal government confiscates legally purchased firearms in this State.”
Rep. Mike Pitts, the measure’s chief sponsor, acknowledged Friday in an interview with The Associated Press that the bill has no chance of passage this year but pledged to continue to raise the issue based on what he described as a defense of the Bill of Rights.
“Without a Bill of Rights, our nation is not what it is,” Pitts said. “I see a lot of stuff where people even talk about totally repealing the Second Amendment, which separates us from the entire rest of the world.”
Pitts, an ardent supporter of gun rights, said he had been mulling such a proposal for a while and felt it was necessary to bring the bill forward. He said he wasn’t spurred by recent comments by retired Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens, who recently wrote in an op-ed that a repeal of the Second Amendment “would be simple and would do more to weaken the N.R.A.’s ability to stymie legislative debate and block constructive gun control legislation than any other available option.”
South Carolina was the first state to secede from the Union before the Civil War, voting in December 1860 to make the decision based on “increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the Institution of Slavery.” Other states have proposed secession-related measures. In 2013, several counties moved to secede from Colorado and form their own state, an unsuccessful movement was in part driven by new gun control laws passed by the Democratic legislature.
It’s untrue that Palin has no foreign policy experience, anyway. In fact, she appears to have seriously flirted with the idea of trying to turn Alaska into a foreign country. How many vice presidential candidates can put that on their resumes?
Over the years, Palin has actively courted the Alaska Independence Party, or AIP, an organization that supports Alaskan secession from the U.S. To be clear, we’re not necessarily talking about friendly secession either: As the AIP’s founder, Joe Vogler, told an interviewer in 1991: “The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. … And I won’t be buried under their damn flag.”
The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. could learn from this man.
Share Vogler’s sentiment? You can purchase a “Joe was right!” T-shirt on the AIP’s website for $25. The AIP’s website also provides helpful links to other secessionist groups, including the Southern Independence Party of Tennessee (which boasts of going after “these Politically Correct Liberal Communist[s]”), Ulster nationalists and Chechen separatists.
The McCain campaign denies that Palin ever joined the AIP. But while it is in dispute whether she attended its 1994 convention, she did visit the 2000 one and addressed AIP conventions in 2006 and 2008. Her husband, Todd, was a registered AIP member from 1995 to 2002, and the AIP leadership certainly considers her one of their own.
Video footage shows AIP Vice Chairman Dexter Clark describing Palin at the 2007 North American Secessionist Convention as an “AIP member before she got the job as a mayor of a small town — that was a nonpartisan job. But you get along to go along. She eventually joined the Republican Party, where she had all kinds of problems with their ethics, and well, I won’t go into that.” (No need to. The Alaska Legislature’s ethics investigators are on the case.) Apparently with Palin in mind, Clark then went on to urge AIP members to “infiltrate” the major parties.
So what does Palin currently think of the AIP? Hard to know — she’s been keeping mum — but this year she told AIP members: “I’m delighted to welcome you to the 2008 Alaska Independence Party Convention. … Keep up the good work!”
Does it make you uneasy to have a possible secessionist sympathizer aiming for the White House? Do you worry that Palin shares AIP founder Vogler’s burning “hatred for the American government”?
Relax! If so, it will enable her, as vice president, to more effectively bond with foreign leaders she’ll meet, many of whom also nurture a hatred for the American government. In diplomatic demarches, finding common ground is always helpful.
McCain has always promised that his ticket would show “independence.” We just didn’t realize it was going to be this kind.