The Bloody End of Pilgrim BS

Ed Miliband

pilgrims9“said that the government defeat would strain the Anglo-American special relationship. Hammond told BBC Newsnight: “It is certainly going to place some strain on the special relationship.”

The British and American governments knew the attack on 911 was coming. So did the Primeminister of Austraila. Al-Queda was targeting a NUCLEAR PLANT during the summer Olympics in 2000 – two months before 911.

The Pilgrim Society wanted to go to was with Iraq. One reason was to make money for investors in Arms, such as General Electric who build nuclear plants.

The PM of Austrailian helped invent the YELLOW CAKE LIE! The Iraq Lie is why British Parlaiment stabbed America in the back. The Reagan-Bush-Thatcher Alliance has destroyed the tow great powers in the West. Our ability to fight terrorists has been nullified!

Meanwhile, so called Christian Crusaders are trying to take food that feeds hungry children, and medical help to seniors.

Dick Armey invented the Tea Party that needs to be investigated to see if it has any ties to Britain.

Jon Presco

1. Iraq casts a long shadow, but this wasn’t all about Iraq. It’s true that for MPs who have spent the 10 years since the Iraq vote explaining why they supported Tony Blair, this was the moment to strike back.
But it’s much more profound than that. Because of Iraq, David Cameron had promised to allow parliament a veto on going to war back in 2010. He had even committed himself to repealing the royal prerogative, the executive powers which enable him to bypass parliament, though he hasn’t, yet.
As a result, parliament had the power to deny him authority, even in a relatively modest and constrained form, to strike against Assad. The jury’s out on when that last happened: some say 1782 and the American war of independence.
2. Iraq’s long shadow, part two: Iraq is a very good reason for being wary, but intervening in Iraq looks relatively uncomplicated compared with trying to decide how to act in a way that would protect human life in Syria. It was the complexity of the circumstances as well as the all too vivid lessons from Iraq of the unintended consequences of intervention that frightened MPs.

Michael Gove, the education secretary, was overheard shouting “disgrace” at Tory rebels, an MP told the Press Association.

The Scottish National Party’s Westminster leader Angus Robertson told Sky News he watched as Gove had to be “persuaded to calm down” following the outburst. “Emotions were running high,” Robertson said. Gove’s wife Sarah Vine tweeted, in remarks that appeared to be aimed at Labour: “Pathetic losers who can’t see past their own interests.”

Sir Menzies Campbell, the former leader of the Liberal Democrats, highlighted the magnitude of the vote by saying that he could not remember a government defeat on a such a major foreign policy issue.

But Downing Street made clear that it would fight off any attempt to table a no confidence motion in the prime minister. One No 10 source said: “Our rebels are making clear that they support the prime minister on the economy and on his education and welfare reforms. They just did not support him on Syria.”

There was deep irritation in the Cabinet that the prime minister had misjudged the mood of his parliamentary party and had single-handedly revived the fortunes of Miliband after a recent bad patch. But there was support for the view that Cameron faces no threat to his position.

Philip Hammond, the defence secretary who had accused Miliband before the vote of giving “succour” to the Assad regime by declining to support the government, said that the government defeat would strain the Anglo-American special relationship. Hammond told BBC Newsnight: “It is certainly going to place some strain on the special relationship. The Americans do understand the parliamentary process that we have to go through … Perhaps they have been surprised by the scale of opposition in parliament.”

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