Here is the genealogy I put together.

The noble House of Rougemont in Burgundy, France, held historical ties to the medieval Knights Templar through land grants, patronage, and family members who joined the religious military order. [1]

Historical Connection

• The Lords of Rougemont: The prominent medieval Burgundian family interacted frequently with local monastic and military orders.
• Etienne de Rougemont: As the son of Guy II of Rougemont, Etienne served as a lord and a preceptor (priest-knight) for the Templars. In 1265, he granted rights and pasturage lands in Pichanges and Spoy to the order. [1]
• Jean de Rougemont: Serving as the Marshal of Burgundy, Jean formally confirmed donations and property rights to the Commander of the House of Fontenotte for the repose of his brother Etienne’s soul, who was buried near the Templar chapel. [1]

Rougemonts owned the Shroud of Turin

By John Presco January 27, 2007 at 08:51:32

Humbert de Rougemont owned the Shroud of Turin

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(Images: Montfort Castle home to Humbert and Margaret de Charny/Rougemont)

“June 1418: The widowed Margaret de Charny marries Humbert of Villersexel, Count de la Roche, Lord of St.Hippolyte sur Doubs.”

Humbert de Villersexel is Humbert de Rougemont.

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“1208 – Pons de la Roche presents to Amadeus de Tramelay, Archbishop of Besançon, the Shroud that his son Othon de la Roche, Latin Duke of Athens, had sent him from Constantinople.”

Aymon 2 de Rougemont was the Seigneur of Villersexel. He married Guillemette de Ray, the daughter of Othon 2 de la Roche.

Othon 1 de la Roche (-before 1161) had a son named Pons de la Roche the Seigneur de Ray. He first married Marguerite Tilchatel who may be a Rougemont who came to own Til-Chatel. Guillaume, Gui, Humbert4, Gui 2, and Thibaut 6 were Seigneurs of Til-Chatel. Othon then married Pontia de Rougemont/de Dramelay the daughter of Thiebaud 2 de Rougemont. They has three children. Humbert, Thiebaud, and Sibylle de la Roche. This union makes the Shroud the Rougemont family icon, or relic.

Jon Presco

Copyright 2006


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1. OTHON (-after 1251). Seigneur de Ray 1239. Lord of Argos and Navplion, which he relinquished in 1251 to his brother Guy and returned to Burgundy. m (before 1239) MARGUERITE de Tilchatel, daughter of GUY II de Tilchatel & his wife Guillemette de Bourbonne.

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Tilchatel, Marguerite de Birth : BEF 1223 Gender: FemaleFamily:
Spouse:


Ray, Otton de_la Roche SireBirth : BEF 1210 Gender: MaleParents:
Father: sur_l’Ognon, Otton de_la Roche SireMother: Ray, Isabelle de Dame
Children:


Ray, Guillaumette de_la Roche Birth : AFT 1238 Gender: Female Ray, Isabelle de_la Roche Dame

Concerned with the bishop of Langres, they drew their origin from Audon I of Til-Châtel, wire of Garnier count de Troyes attested into 918 by its signature in an act of the duke of Burgundy Richard. This family, which carried like armorial bearings a key out of stake, also paid homage to the dukes of Burgundy and held a row raised among the lords of the duchy and county of Burgundy. Its members followed one another of wire father until the year 1299 dates to which Isabelle of Rochefort, girl of Left-handed person of Rochefort lord of Puiset in Beauce, widow of Guy III of Til-Châtel Gonfalonier of the County of Burgundy, became lady of Til-Châtel. It remarr with Humbert de Rougemont about 1306 and Maria her Jeanne daughter whom it had had with Guy III of Til-Châtel with Thiébaud de Rougemont wire of a first marriage of her new husband. The seigniory passes then in this family until the end of the 15° century time to which the last of Rougemont, not having children yielded the seigniory to Antoine de Baissey resulting from a family of Montsaugeonnais which immediately paid homage to the bishop of Langres.

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1208 – Pons de la Roche presents to Amadeus de Tramelay, Archbishop of Besançon, the Shroud that his son Othon de la Roche, Latin Duke of Athens, had sent him from Constantinople.
1314 – The Templars, an Order of the Crusade Knights, are sent to the stake as heretics and accused to secretly worship the Face that seems to be reproduced from the Shroud. One of them was called Geoffroy de Charny.
1349 – On March 6 during the fire of the Besançon Cathedral the Shroud disappears.
Lirey – The Chapelle (ML)
1356 – Geoffroy de Charny, a crusade knight having the same name as the previous one, deliveries the Shroud to the canons of Lirey, near Troyes in France. The precious cloth has been in his possession for at least three years. His wife, Jeanne de Vergy, is a grand-niece of Othon de la Roche.
1389 – Pierre d’Arcis, bishop of Troyes, forbids the Exhibition of the



“SUCCESSIVE OWNERS OF THE SHROUD

The first known owner of the Shroud in France in the 1350s was Geoffrey de Charney, who died in 1356; the name of Jacques de Molay’s fellow martyr was Geoffroi de Chamey. If the Shroud had been brought to France from Constantinople by the Knights Templar, who had so recently been suppressed on charges of heresy, it is understandable why the de Chameys were reluctant to declare its origins. In The Shroud and the Grail, Noel Currer-Briggs, founder member of the Association of Genealogists and Record Agents and a Fellow of the Society of Genealogists, produces proof that Geoffrey de Charney was the nephew of Jacques de Molay’s companion in death, Geoffroi de Charney, Templar Master of Normandy. He also shows that this family are intimately linked by ties of blood and marriage with the families of Brienne, de Joinville and Burgundy. Could it be that Rex Deus ensured the preservation of the Shroud in the certain knowledge that, sooner or later, it would play an important part in disclosing that Jesus came to reveal the pathway to initiation and not to make any form of redemptive sacrifice?
The last member of the de Chamey line, the 72-year-old Marguerite de Charney, was childless when, in 1453, Duke Louis of Savoy ceded to her the Castle of Varanbon and the revenues of the estate of Miribel in return for certain ‘valuable services’, which included Marguerite’s gift to the duke of the Shroud. Geoffrey II de Chamey and Marguerite’s second husband, Humbert de Villersexel, had both been created knights of the Order of the Collar of Savoy by earlier dukes 2 Marguerite de Chamey had found a noble and trusted family to ensure the preservation of this remarkable relic, as the House of Savoy were Rex Deus.

In 1418, Humbert of Villersexel, Count de la Roche, Lord of Saint-Hippolyte-sur-Doubs, moved the shroud to his castle at Montfort, France to provide protection against criminal bands, after he married Charny’s granddaughter. It was later moved to Saint-Hippolyte-sur-Doubs. After Humbert’s death, canons of Lirey fought through the courts to force the widow to return the cloth, but the parliament of Dole and the Court of Besançon left it to the widow, who travelled with the shroud to various expositions, notably in Liege and Geneva.

The widow sold the image in exchange for a castle in Varambon, France in 1453. Louis of Savoy, the new owner, stored it in his capital at Chambery in the newly built Saint-Chapelle, which Pope Paul II shortly thereafter raised to the dignity of a collegiate church. In 1464, the duke agreed to pay an annual fee to the Lirey canons in exchange for their dropping claims of ownership of the cloth. Beginning in 1471, the shroud was moved between many cities of Europe, being housed briefly in Vercelli, Turin, Ivrea, Susa, Chambery, Avigliano, Rivoli and Pinerolo. A description of the cloth by two sacristans of the Sainte-Chapelle from around this time noted that it was stored in a reliquary: “enveloped in a red silk drape, and kept in a case covered with crimson velours, decorated with silver-gilt nails, and locked with a golden key”.

Both decide in favour of Marguarite de Charny. The canons refuse to accept this judgment, and ask for the excommunication of Marguarite de Charny. In 1459 they abandon their claim in return for financial compensation. The quarrel had lasted 21 years.”

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Savoisy, Mabille de Birth : BEF 1230 Gender: FemaleFamily:
Spouse:
Charny, Hugues de Mont_St._Jean SireBirth : AFT 1211 Death : 1271/1274 Gender: MaleParents:
Father: Charny, Pons de Mont_St._Jean SeigneurMother: Noyers, Sybille de
Children:
Charny, Dreux de Mont_St._Jean Seigneur

Charny, Geoffroy de TemplarBirth : 1251 Death : 1314 Gender: Male Savoisy, Jeanne de Charny Dame

Savoisy, Jean I Charny Seigneur Birth : AFT 1277 Gender: MaleParents:
Father: Charny, Dreux de Mont_St._Jean SeigneurMother: Joinville, Marguerite de
Family:
Children:
Charny, Jean II Mont_St._Jean Sire

Charny, Dreux II Mont_St._Jean Seigneur

Savoisy, Geoffroy I Charny Seigneur

Savoisy, Marguerite de Charny Dame Birth : 1390 Death : 1460 Gender: FemaleParents:
Father: Savoisy, Geoffroy II Charny Seigneur

Family:
Spouse:
Montfort, Jean de Bauffremont SeigneurBirth : BEF 1385 Death : 1415 AgincourtGender: Male
Family:
Marriage: 1416 Spouse:
en_Montagne, Humbert Villersexel Roche ComteBirth : BEF 1385 Death : 1437 Gender: Male


The Archbishops of Besancon


1221-1225 : Gérard de Rougemont
1225-1227 : Jean 1er HAlgrin
1229-1235 : Nicolas de Flavigny
1236-1241 : Geoffroy
1245-1268 : Guillaume II de la Tour
1269-1301 : Eudes de Rougemont
1302-1311 : Hugues de Chalon (ex évêque de Liège)
1312-1333 : Vital de Maignaut
1333-1355 : Hugues VI de Vienne
1355-1361 : Jean IIII de Vienne
1361-1362 : Louis de Montbéliard
1363-1370 : Aymon de Villersexel
1371-1391 : Guillaume II de Vergy
1391-1404 : Gerard III d’Athies
1405-1429 : Thiébaudde Rougemont

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Wednesday, November 15, 2006



The Rougemonts
The Premiere Shroud Family


by
Jon Presco Copyright 2003

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Bernard de Tramelay/Dramelay was a Grand Master of the Knight Templars who is said to have died just after he and forty Knight Templars breached the walls of Ascalon during the Crusades. Information on Bernard is very scarce, it suggested his greed got him and the forty Templars killed, as the first to conquer a city got the lion’s share of the spoils. There is a suggestion there was a falling out between the Templars and the Christian forces who did not follow Bernard into the breach. When the Muslim defenders saw this, they closed on Bernard who I suspect was trying to capture the Ark of the Covenant that Joseph Flavius said was in Ascalon. The Templars were very keen to own the Ark, and when they first arrived at the temple grounds they began to dig extensively, especially atop the Mount of Olives where they built a substantial fortress. Did they suspect what I have put forth, that the Ark was either the Oracle of Delphi, or kin to this object and the process which allowed great men and women to see their fate? I suspect Absalom was an Oracle, the angel Ariel/Uriel.

For two years now I have been looking at the name Fromond de Dramelay who married a “dame de Rougemont”. He is shown in many genealogies (including a Rougemont chart) to be the son of Amedee, the Archbishop of Besancon, which is located fifty miles or so from Rougemont in the Franche-Comte where it is said Bernard was born. His father was named Humbert. All the Humbert names I have found on the net belong to the Ferrette/Rougemont family. Several Rougemonts were the Archbishops of Besancon.

The Templars were also in possession of the Shroud of Turin that was given to Amedee by Othen de la Roche (of the small rock). It has been concluded that Bernard de Tramelay is the related to Amedee. The de la Roche family is kin to the Rougemont and Dramelay family. j.

Jean de Montreaux (Montrose) married Marguerite de Rougemont. Jean is a Ferrette who built Montreux castle that is fifty miles from Rougemont. Their daughter Alix married Fromond of Saint-Loup where the Templars are said to have brought their treasure. The Marquis d’Auxelles came to live in the rebuilt castle of Rougemont. Chambrun d’Uxeloup de Rougemont bought Arginy castle and began to look for the lost Templar treasure. The name Uxeloup come from Saint-Loup and Auxelles a castle that was built by the Ferrette family who dwelt in Rougemont castle. Members of the ‘Arginy Renaissance’ are said to be descendants from Knight Templars, even a Grand Master in regards to Guillaume de Beajeau, but, I suspect this group knew who Bernard Tramelay was…..and what he captured at Ascalon?

Marguerite de Saint Loup d’Auxelles married Thibaut 4 of Rougemont. Richard d’Auxelles married Thibaut’s daughter, Helvuis, whose grandfather was Humbert. This Humbert appears to be the Archbishop of Besancon, a name that means “house of light”. Here is a quote about the Rougemonts and Counts of Champagne who commisioned some of the Grail legends; “By skillful policy, “always acquiring never alienating” the family formed matrimonial alliances with the great families, Montbeliard, Commercy, Chatteauvillian, Geroldseck, Chalon-Auxere, Montague, Ray, Rougemont, Joinville, and Grandson.”

Shroud of Turin and Knights of Saint-George

The Knights of Saint-George met at Rougemont Castle and had a room in a tower in Besancon. The Archbishop of Besancon resided over a ritual there that involved ceratin relics. Was the Shroud of Turnin one of them?

“A room in the tower of Montmartin was granted to him by a treaty with the town of Besancon, as well as the exemption of the housing of people of war for the knights residing in Besancon. The knights of Saint-George were besides only noble city of Besancon has to profit from this inappreciable privilege.

“These portraits like that of the prince of COP, special guard of the brotherhood decorated the superb room with the Large Carmelite friars of Besancon, unfortunately destroyed at the time of the Revolution. The plank of the woodworks of the room was decorated series of the blasonnés ecus of the alive knights, with their confined inscriptions of their four districts, which one descended at the time of their death to be carried in ceremony with the church, then suspended with their row in the nave where one saw a great number of it which had decorated a long time the vault with Rougemont.”

Archbishops of Besancon

1180-1190 : Thierry II de Montfaucon
1191-1193 : Etienne de Vienne
1993-1220 : Amédée de Tramelay
1221-1225 : Gérard de Rougemont

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The daughter of Geoffrey II de Charny, Marguerite de Charny, marries Jean de Beaufremont who will be killed at the battle of Azincourt in 1415. In 1418 Marguerite de Charny marries again, to Humbert de Villersexel, seigneur de Saint Hippolyte sur le Doubs.

1418

The Shroud is given to Humbert de Villersexel by the Canons of Lirey. It will be conserved in the chateau de Monfort, near Montbard, then transferred to Saint Hippolyte sur le Doubs, in the Chapelle des Buessarts.

1438

Death of Humbert de Villersexel ; the canons of Lirey want to recover the Shroud. Marguarite de Charny refuses. The case is carried before the parliament of Dole (May 1443), then to the Court of Besancon (July 1447). Both decide in favour of Marguarite de Charny. The canons refuse to accept this judgment, and ask for the excommunication of Marguarite de Charny. In 1459 they abandon their claim in return for financial compensation. The quarrel had lasted 21 years !

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The PEDIGREE of Ermentrude de MONTBELLIARD
Born: abt. 1120 Died: abt. 1171

Husband/Partner: Eudes (Othon) de la ROCHE-SUR-OGNON Child: Pons I de la ROCHE-SUR-OGNON

Louis I de MOUSSON +

“The commune of the Mount was joined together with that of Dramelay on March 19, 1825.


At the time Gallic, it was the oopida surrounding populations. A tower, placed at Chaitelot, rose in the region along the way which went the Saline ones in Izernore. The tradition populates spirits the Wood of the Fairy which shade the foot of the mountain. The Temple of Bacchus was replaced by a church dedicated to Saint Martin’s day, substitution all the more constant as, not far from the church, is a space of ground called as a Bacchus. These places known as prove the high antiquity of Dramelay. Let us note in the passing that there was the pagan Temple dedicated to Segomon Mars in Arinthod, and the menhir of the small valley of Vogna.
With the fall of the Roman empire, Burgundes take this southern region of the Jura. The Lords de Dramelay obtain a prerogative between Suran and Valouse, to the river of Ain.
Lords: TheReferees made him return freedom. The marriage which took place between Jean de Chalons II and Alix of Burgundy in 1317, inserted the baronnie of Dramelay in the house of the Lords of Orgelet.
On March 6, 1365, a division grants Tristan de Chalons Arinthod, Dramelay, Boutavent.
Jean, Lord de Chalons, wire of Tristan, bequeath by will of May 3, 1396, in Alix of Trawl-nets his sister, married in 1384 in François de Sassenage, Montfleur, Arinthod, Chavannes and Dramelay.

Alix remarie in 1403 in Guillaume of Saulieu. She bequeaths all her goods to her nephew, Louis of Trawl-nets-Arlay III, in 1426. And the house of Trawl-net-Arlay will preserve the ground of Dramelay until the beginning of the XVI eme century.

Philiberte of Luxembourg sells it in 1512 to Philippe-François de Luyrieux.
This last resells it in Louis of Saix, repurchases it in 1531 with its successors.
In March 1643, it passes from Charles of the Room and Isabelle de Luyrieux to Jean de Méria and Jean Mouchet.

Successive owners: Philibert of the Room, its sons Claude and Jean of the Room
The latter find a ground grévée of debts. On October 29, 1561, their uncle bishop of Belley and their curator authorizes them to sell to Nicolas Chupin and Louise Battefort her wife. Leonel de Battefort, wire of Louise de Battefort succeeds.”

“The only city to have claimed to possess the Shroud from 1208 to 1329 was the French city of Besançon. The theory is that during the Fourth Crusade, the Burgundian knight who commanded the district of Blachernae where the Shroud was kept, Othon de la Roche, Duke of Athens and Sparta, received it as part of his recompense.”


Hugues de ROUGEMONT Seigneur de VILLERSEXEL

Born: ? Died: abt. 1227

Wife/Partner: Beatrice de FAUCOGNEY Possible Child:

Aymon de FAUCOGNEY Alternative Father of Possible Child: Aymon de FAUCOGNEY

— Thiebaut I de ROUGEMONT

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— Thiebaut II de ROUGEMONT (? – 1173+)

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— Poncette de TRAVES (? – 1156+)
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— Humbert II de ROUGEMONT (? – by 1227)
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— Alais
– Hugues de ROUGEMONT
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— Odon de BESANCON
— Sibille de BESANCON

— Julienne



“The theory that the Templars may have possessed the Shroud is supported by the discovery in 1944 of a painting of the Holy Face (circa 1280) on a wooden panel in the village of Templecombe, England. This village was owned by the Knights Templars from about 1185. Rex Morgan, a Shroud scholar, hypothesized that the wooden panel may actually have been a lid to a wooden box which contained the Shroud when it was transferred from France to England during the suppression of the Templars. “The Templecombe panel has 125 points of congruence with the Shroud face . . . The fleur-de-lis decoration of the painting strongly suggests French influence and the quatrefoil design is recurrent in Templar . . . decorative motifs.”

The theory is very plausible, except that the Templars never admitted to possessing the Shroud. The only city to have claimed to possess the Shroud from 1208 to 1329 was the French city of Besançon. The theory is that during the Fourth Crusade, the Burgundian knight who commanded the district of Blachernae where the Shroud was kept, Othon de la Roche, Duke of Athens and Sparta, received it as part of his recompense. The claim that the Shroud was in Athens is attested to directly in a letter by Theodore of Epirus dated August 1, 1205, and indirectly by Nicholas of Otranto, abbot of the monastery of Casole. Othon, in turn, sent the cloth to his father, Ponce de la Roche, who then handed it over to the Bishop of Besançon, who placed it in the Cathedral of St. Etienne where it was exposed for veneration each year on Easter until 1349. In that year a fire burned down the Cathedral causing slight damage to the Shroud. In the midst of all the confusion, the Shroud disappeared. According to a dubious sixteenth-century account kept in the second church of Lirey, the Shroud was given to King Philip VI. He subsequently gave it to a friend whose name, coincidentally, was the same as the Templar Grand Master who was burned at the stake, Geoffrey I de Charny!

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Archebishops of Besancon

1180-1190 : Thierry II de Montfaucon
1191-1193 : Etienne de Vienne
1993-1220 : Amédée de Tramelay
1221-1225 : Gérard de Rougemont
1225-1227 : Jean 1er HAlgrin
1229-1235 : Nicolas de Flavigny
1236-1241 : Geoffroy
1245-1268 : Guillaume II de la Tour
1269-1301 : Eudes de Rougemont
1302-1311 : Hugues de Chalon (ex évêque de Liège)
1312-1333 : Vital de Maignaut
1333-1355 : Hugues VI de Vienne
1355-1361 : Jean IIII de Vienne
1361-1362 : Louis de Montbéliard
1363-1370 : Aymon de Villersexel
1371-1391 : Guillaume II de Vergy
1391-1404 : Gerard III d’Athies
1405-1429 : Thiébaudde Rougemont
1430-1437 : Jean III de Rochetaille
1437-1438 : François Ier Condomieri
1438-1439 : Jean IV de Norry
1439-1462 : Quentin Ménard
1462-1498 : Charles de Neufchâtel

The noble association of the knights of Saint-George was founded in Rougemont about the year 1300 by the sovereigns of the county of Burgundy to gather Burgundian gentlemen of former knighthood. Their badge at that time was a medal representing holy George with horse embanking a dragon, suspended with a gold chain. This brotherhood was destroyed at the end of XIVe century by the wars. She was restored by Philibert of MOLLANS (3), knight comtois who would have brought back Holy Land of the relics of Saint-George. He consequently thought of offering them to the nobility of the county of Burgundy. He thus joins together about 1435 or 1440, a certain number of knights comtois to honour these relics in a vault which he had with the castle of Rougemont. And it solved to celebrate each year the festival of a saint, that the nobility regarded as its owner, because it was knight and that one represented it with horse armed with a lance. Philibert of MOLLANS was undoubtedly the first governor of the order elected by the body of the knights. Consequently, the largest lords of the country hastened to be made receive in the brotherhood, and were assembled each year in the vault of Rougemont on April 22, day before the George Saint. Philippe the Good authorized the order to like carry the suspended medal to a red ribbon that of the Golden Fleece. In 1648, the brotherhood settled in Besancon and not in Dole, then capital county of Burgundy, indeed the brotherhood had already a political role while being opposed to the Parliament of Pares.

A room in the tower of Montmartin was granted to him by a treaty with the town of Besancon, as well as the exemption of the housing of people of war for the knights residing in Besancon. The knights of Saint-George were besides only noble city of Besancon has to profit from this inappreciable privilege. However, it seems to have met several times at Vesoul, city which has as Saint-George patron saint.

Then on April 25, 1661, the brotherhood is assembled in Salins and decides that henceforth it will meet in Besancon, with the convent of the Large Carmelite friars, rested by a fellow-member: Jean of VIENNA. After the conquest, Louis XIV decided to tolerate the brotherhood, in spite of his resistance to the invader. He made it possible even to the knights to carry their medal of Saint-George suspended to a blue moire ribbon like that about the Holy Spirit, this in order to adapt has lower cost part of the nobility comtoise, which would provide him executives devoted for its army. Besides Louis XV & Louis XVI, continued the policy of the Sun king with regard to the brotherhood, they addressed to the company portraits the them same ones, in foot, where one could read: “Given by the king the knights of George Saint of his county of Burgundy.”.

These portraits like that of the prince of COP, special guard of the brotherhood decorated the superb room with the Large Carmelite friars of Besancon, unfortunately destroyed at the time of the Revolution. The plank of the woodworks of the room was decorated series of the blasonnés ecus of the alive knights, with their confined inscriptions of their four districts, which one descended at the time of their death to be carried in ceremony with the church, then suspended with their row in the nave where one saw a great number of it which had decorated a long time the vault with Rougemont. The church which was papered blazons of the knights of George Saint was also paved of their tombs, “as if they had wanted to join together in this place the emblems of human vanity to the testimony of his nothing”. At the time of the general assembly of April 25, 1768, new statutes were written, they will be studied here.

Article II – If the governor or ordering province wants to attend these assemblies, the four appointed knights will accompany it instead of the assembly, where it will take the row and the meeting due to his load and the sovereign which it represents, which is the chief of the knighthood.Article III – The archbishops and bishops, knights of the order, will be drawn from their row of reception, in consideration of their dignities joined together with that of knight, and will immediately have meeting after the governor of the order, in armchairs placed at its left and with the top of the table, and the other knights will sit each one with their row of reception.
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Bernard de Dramelay: (1134) figure at the court of Renaud III of Bourgogne.Il goes to the crusade préchée by Saint-Bernard in 1147, fights with the head office of Ascalon, and obtains the distinguished title of Large Maitre of the Temple of Midsummer’s Day of Jerusalem.
Hugues de Dramelay: (1175) He is constable of the county of Burgundy.

Amédée de Dramelay becomes Archevêque of Besancon at the end of the XII eme century. Put to the test by its political options, it was locked up with the Castle of Montbeliard a few months in 1199. Returned to freedom, it goes back on its seat, but the count Etienne of Burgundy often devastated his fields. Wearied troubles which its canons caused him, it left for the crusade in 1218 and died out of Holy Land in 1220. In him the family of the Lords de Dramelay died out.
Etienne of Burgundy, owner of Baronnie d’ Orgelet, joins together Baronnie de Dramelay with his fields. The descendants of Guillaume de Dramelay, nephew of Bernard, do not preserve any right on this ground.

Jean de Chalons collected the baronnie of Dramelay, in the succession of his father in 1248. He lays out about it in favour of Philippe de Courtenay, and in August 1248 gives it into stronghold-liege to Raoul de Courtenay and his successors, by stipulating that the castle would be jurable and rendable with him or (and?) with those of the children whom it would have of Isabelle de Courtenay his wife. What enabled him to return in possession of this property when good would seem to him; what did not delay since in 1262 his/her son ainé Hugues entered in property of this ground. The latter was allocated to the son of Hugues, named Renaud, who did not want to recog