Discussions About Tolkien

Here is how people are reacting to the news Christopher Tolkien is not longer manning the gate, that sounds like half of this blog. We leftist, magical people are losing ground. William Morris was a Socialist. The Pre-Raphaelites were against capitalism and for civil and human rights. They backed ‘The Little People’ with a new spiritualism. Amazon is devoid of religion and mysticism.

Why I have put together for the answer of how Amazon skirts the death of Arrgon, can be swallowed up and used by BIG A IN SKY. I am working on a plan.


Whether or not this adaption sticks with the heir of Isildur remains to be seen but with the series reportedly locked in for five seasons and the first two alone potentially costing as much as $500 million USD, a familiar character with a deep story pool makes sense.

Amazon declined to comment on the report to IGN.

If you can’t wait for this new series for more from The Lord of The Rings




13 comments for “Christopher Tolkien Resigned from the Tolkien Estate”

  1. Zoe
    November 15, 2017 at 4:36 am

    Absolutely no respect towards Tolkien. You all disgust me.

    • onthetrail
      November 15, 2017 at 5:42 am

      I am horrified by this. The timing, the deal with Amazon.

      Is this the moment when us fans of J. R. R. Tolkien and his ever committed and wonderfully talented son must walk away and cherish what we have?

      • Daniel
        November 15, 2017 at 11:13 am

        Absolutely, yes.

      • November 15, 2017 at 11:17 am

        Well, I think we’ll always have the books to cherish. But new generations have grown up within the Tolkien family and within Tolkien fandom itself. Books are no longer the primary source of mass entertainment. This was long expected in fandom. It’s a shock, to be sure. But we’ll transition through this just as the Tolkien family is moving forward. I don’t think the younger family members are being disrespectful at all of JRRT’s creation. He himself had decided early on “Art or Cash”, so he was always open to making a substantial financial deal.

        • Jean-Baptiste Corbiere
          November 15, 2017 at 12:51 pm

          To be honest, an adaptation of Tolkien’s creation in a “”fill the gaps” creation strikes me as more respectful, if anything, of the source material and may be why Christopher Tolkien had a more accepting position on this than for the movies.
          It doesn’t goes against Tolkien’s litterary work (altough it’s perfectly able to go against the thematics and the motivations but that’s another matter) and can be seen as a good hommage : in fact, more different outlooks on Middle-Earth would be a fine thing if it breaks the mold of the movie’s aesthetics dominance providing with an array of differents ones.

          For instance, I’d give its chance to a movie about the Battle of Dale with a script and a creative director that would not shy away to fill the gaps and to tell tales of their own. I’d probably enjoy it more than yet another retelling of a story more or less clumsy (both to divert too much from the books, and diverting not enough at times, which are both current problems IMHO).

          I may be partial, because I particularily enjoyed the stance taken by The One Ring RPG, with both an aesthetic fitting my own perception (Early Medieval style), and the pretence note to “complete” Tolkien’s work but to provide their own subjective (including within Middle-Earth tales) creativity within a litterary frame which is not dogmatic to begin with.
          This approach is, for me, perfectly respectful of JRRT and his tales.

          In fact, what I’m picturing there is the tale of the creation of dwarves. Aulë doesn’t mean to be disrespectful and only wanted to emulate Eru’s own creation to pay an hommage and to answer his own creative need. And Eru didn’t taken as irrespectful but kindly blessed Aule’s dwarves.
          We can all be the Aulë, being so admirative of Tolkien’s work and impatient to dwell in his world that we create things that we know doesn’t fit perfectly but hope that it would be liked.

          Sure there will be crap. That’s unfortunatly impossible to prevent : but most of us and most of “new members” does like Tolkien, far from being disrespectful.

          • fantasywind
            November 26, 2017 at 12:28 pm

            This ‘fill in the gaps’ is actually what’s worries me the most, since there is no guarantee that it will be good or fitting for the setting in the first place and adding to that the changes and alterations to established things it may turn into something so ridiculous like Shadow of War game (sequel to Shadow of Mordor) which contradicted or upturned all major lore points to the point of messing with fundamental rules of the world (though these games are more bastardization of material, adaptation of adaptations so to speak, movie tie-ins more than reflecting the book). One has to be careful when adding things that were not there is first place (if not then we get cheesy Dwarf-elf romance in the Hobbit films or rabbit sleds for Brown Wizard who is as crazy as he looks).

  2. Mark Nelson
    November 16, 2017 at 11:07 am

    Perhaps it is time for a new generation to have a go. Frankly, artistic sensibility aside, that theme runs throughout JRRT’s writings: the whole saga is about endings and transition. Galadriel saw it, as did others, and so it goes. My biggest fear is that care and attention to detail will fall prey to profit-seeking corporate stupidity. There is great potential here for true art. JRRT’s stuff is not the pastiche of GRRM or Brooks. It takes time and concentration–attention must be paid in order to do it well and to give it justice. Let this get in the hands of an arrogant, deconstructionist director, and you have a recipe for artistic disaster.

  3. charles morgan
    November 16, 2017 at 7:31 pm

    Christopher Tolkien’s devotion to his father’s legacy is noteworthy, but if Middle-earth is ever going to expand beyond what it is now, other hands and other minds will need to take the reins. There are so many stories that could be told that would not interfere with the Professor’s ‘canon’. I’ve always thought a Witch-king origin story might be interesting: a Numenorean prince seduced into the service of the Dark Lord? Sure, Star Wars already did it but why not? Set it in the Second Age long before LOTR…

    • November 17, 2017 at 4:27 pm

      Some of us strive for “what we already know,set out fair and square without contradictions”,and not for any expansion by hands other than the original.If you want to exercise your own imagination don’t use someone else’s material.

      The Amazon concept remains within the umbrella of the already-sold rights to TLotR,which means that whatever they make will derive somehow from what’s in there (including,to be clear,the Appendices).
      But no adaptation can ever be good enough,and any alternative to encountering the story through the books always discouraged.

  4. Negav Kalanaga
    November 20, 2017 at 1:43 am

    TV/movie content for generations: Do the “Real Lord of the Rings” – the history of Sauron’s involvement in Middle Earth. Not necessarily starring him, but there’s plenty of stories in his meddling in the affairs of other races, and the Elves’ creation of the Rings could take several seasons to tell. Then there’s the resulting wars, the Dwarves in Moria and their relations with the Elves, all that happened in Numenor, etc. All of that can be developed from the Appendices, just in the Second Age. Then there’s the more familiar Third Age.

  5. Seth Stone
    November 20, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    While I wished Jackson and Christopher had been able to reach an understanding for The Silmarillion which, would have at least been based on an established story I respected Christopher’s commitment to his father’s work.
    I’m very sure this will be a vehicle for Bezos to perpetuate his socialist agenda. It will be twisted in ways we cannot imagine. The only thing we will recognize will be names and places.

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