The Marine Society and Rougemont



marinessClive de Rougemont was head of the Sea Cadets. He is of a Huguenot banker ancestry that fled with much of France’s wealth after the repeal of the Edict of Nantes. This family founded Lloyd’s of London. I may be kin to this family.

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Marine Society to merge with Sea Cadets

By David Osler

June 03 2004 Lloyds List

THE Marine Society is to lose its independence and merge with the Royal
Navy-controlled Sea Cadets, after being forced to discontinue its training
ship activities for financial reasons.

Both decisions – announced at the organisation’s annual meeting in London
yesterday, which was addressed by the Princess Royal – appear to reflect
financial realities determined by the continuing decline in UK seafarer

The accounts given to attendees showed that subscription and donation
income totalled just ?43,700 ($80,320) last year.
Expenditure of training activities alone – most notably on the vessel TS
Earl of Romney – was over 10 times that figure.

But although Earl of Romney offered basic sea experience to more than 560
adults and young people last year, the 1957-built vessel is to be paid off
this year, and not replaced.

There is no immediate financial crisis, given that the organisation has
built up fixed assets of around ?8.8m in the centuries since its foundation
in 1756.

However, chairman Clive de Rougemont admitted: “Over the past year, the
council has been doing much soul-searching over the future of the society.”

It would be “problematical to say the least” to find the cash for a new
training ship, and a radical solution was needed.

Thus it had been decided to pool resources with another complimentary
charity and to merge with the Sea Cadet Association.
The new organisation will be called The Marine Society and Sea Cadets, he

Practical and legal issues meant that a final timetable had yet to be drawn
up, but fusion was likely by the end of this year.
The merger will take the form of the transfer of Sea Cadet assets and
undertakings to the Marine Society.

The Queen, the society’s existing patron, will also act as patron of the
new organisation.

At yesterday’s meeting, the Princess Royal paid tribute to the work of both
the Marine Society and the Sea Vision campaign.
To the delight of trade union observers present, her speech noted that
while the government’s tonnage tax policy had strengthened the Red Ensign,
it had not boosted seafarer numbers.The Marine Society

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The Marine Society was the world’s first seafarers’ charity. In 1756, at the beginning of the Seven Years’ War against France, Austria, Russia, Sweden and Saxony (and subsequently Spain and Portugal) Britain urgently needed to recruit men for the navy. Jonas Hanway (1712-1786), who had already made his mark as a traveller, Russia Company merchant, writer and philanthropist, must take the chief credit for founding the society which both contributed to the solution of that particular problem, and has continued for the next two and a half centuries to assist many thousands of young people in preparing for a career at sea.

[hide] 1 Formation
2 Incorporated by Act of Parliament
3 Hostilities cease, Education starts
4 After the Second World War
5 Notes
6 External links

Formation[edit source]

Plaque marking site of the foundation of The Marine Society
The Marine Society, the world’s oldest public maritime charity, was the brainchild of a group of London merchants and gentlemen, who first met at the King’s Arms Tavern, Cornhill, London on June 25, 1756 to discuss a plan to supply two or three thousand seafarers for the navy.[citation needed] Recruitment began immediately. Sponsors were sought and advertisements for volunteers appeared in newspapers and on the street:

“Notice is hereby given, that all stout lads and boys, who incline to go on board His Majesty’s Ships, with a view to learn the duty of a seaman, and are, upon examination, approved by The Marine Society, shall be handsomely clothed and provided with bedding, and their charges born down to the ports where His Majesty’s Ships lye, with all other proper encouragement.”

Ten men were duly clothed and delivered to ships of the King’s navy. In this small way began the work of The Marine Society. The main object of the charity when founded was sending unemployed or orphaned teenagers to sea as officers’ servants. The Royal Navy was estimated to need about 4,500 boys as servants during wartime. Approximately a thousand were ‘young gentlemen’ intending to be officers, and many of the remainder were supplied by the Society. As the boys were for the most part from non-seafaring families the Society probably provided a real increase of several thousand to the pool of naval recruitment. The Society also provided over ten thousand naval recruits with free clothing, which helped reduce the typhus problem.[1]

Incorporated by Act of Parliament[edit source]

The scheme really took off. By 1763, the Society had recruited over 10,000 men and boys; in 1772, such was its perceived importance in the life of the nation, it was incorporated in an Act of Parliament. Admiral Nelson became a stalwart supporter and trustee of the charity, such that by the time of the Battle of Trafalgar (1805) at least 15% of British manpower was being supplied, trained and equipped by The Marine Society. The relative professionalism of these men, the great British naval hero readily acknowledged, played a part in his victories.

Hostilities cease, Education starts[edit source]

But the end of hostilities meant that naval recruitment was no longer the nation’s first priority, although Admiral Boscawen was later to write: “No scheme for manning the navy, within my knowledge, has ever had the success as the Marine Society’s.”

Hanway now formulated plans for transferring boys to the merchant service on their discharge from naval ships and from then on, the Society was equally involved with both Royal and Merchant navies.

Early reports from commanding officers had indicated that the number of desertions might be reduced if boys equipped by the Society were given a period of training before being sent to sea.

Initially the Society hired a schoolmaster and bandmaster to teach some of the boys and in 1786 purchased a merchant ship the Beatty, which was converted to a training ship and renamed Marine Society. The Society thus became the first organisation in the world to pioneer nautical training for boys in its special school ship which was moored in the Thames between Deptford and Greenwich.

This example was followed in the nineteenth century by many other organisations in ports round the British Isles. From 1799 until 1918 The Admiralty provided a succession of training ships, the last two of which were renamed Warspite. In 1922 the Society commissioned HMS Hermione as the third Warspite. However the outbreak of the second world war forced the Society to evacuate the ship owing to the probability of air attack.

From 1756 to 1940 the Society recruited over 110,000 men and boys for the Royal Navy, the British East India Company and Merchant service. Records show that from 1756 to 1815 the charity provided some twelve percent of naval manpower, all the more valuable to the nation since each one was a volunteer.

After the Second World War[edit source]

After the Second World War, the Society concluded that there were by then sufficient facilities for sea-training provided by national authorities. It continued to provide sea-kits for many young seafarers and, where necessary, offered grants for their education, but in the 1950s the Society began to insist that cadets thus helped should have completed a good general education, obtaining a minimum of four GCE passes at O level. In this way The Marine Society pioneered what was subsequently accepted as standard practice for the entry of officers into the Merchant Navy.

Between 1940 and 1987, as the Society’s reserves increased, was not only able to help individual seafarers but also to make grants to many maritime charities. In 1981 it provided the base funds for the Marine Adventure Sailing Trust, a limited life investment trust fund, which enabled it to make further substantial grants to the Sea Cadet Corps, TS Foudroyant, Ocean Youth Club and other maritime youth charities.

In 1976 the Society amalgamated with various other maritime charities with similar aims, including the Incorporated Thames Nautical Training Trust (HMS Worcester), the Seafarers Education Service The Marine Society College of the Sea, the Sailors’ Home and Red Ensign Club, the Merchant Navy Comforts Service Trust and the British Ship Adoption Society. The merger of the Seafarers Education Service with The Marine Society at this time was hugely significant and helped to ensure the continued relevance of both operations. The SES consisted of The Marine Society College of the Sea and Seafarers Libraries, and had been inaugurated in 1919 by Albert Mansbridge who had earlier founded the Workers Educational Association. Both the College of the Sea and Seafarers Libraries continue to flourish today.

For the past 30 years,[2] the principal objectives of The Marine Society have been to facilitate and to provide practical and financial support for the education, training and well-being of all professional seafarers and to encourage young people to embark on maritime careers.

For many years The Marine Society has had strong ties with the Sea Cadet Corps, not only as benefactor and landlord to the SCA, but also by providing sea training opportunities for hundreds of sea cadets each year.

It was because of these ties plus the complementary objectives of the two charities and, more specifically, the mutual desire to introduce an element of Merchant Navy ethos to the Sea Cadet Corps, that the merger of the Sea Cadet Association with The Marine Society came about 30 November 2004. The new charity thereby created became known as The Marine Society & Sea Cadets.

As the UK’s largest non-profit maritime organisation, the Marine Society & Sea Cadets (usually abbreviated to MSSC) is the holding brand for the two distinct organisations: The Marine Society, and the Sea Cadets. It is based in a Victorian building close to the river Thames and adjacent to Lambeth Palace in central London.

The Marine Society continues as a charity involved in lifelong learning for maritime professionals.

    Frederick C. de Rougemont is the son of Clive de Rougemont.1 He married Amelia Frances Albinia Roberts, daughter of Sir Hugh Ashley Roberts and Hon. Priscilla Jane Stephanie Low, on 6 February 2010 at St. George’s Chapel, Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England.1
1. [S466] Notices, The Daily Telegraph, London, UK, 10 February 2010. Hereinafter cited as The Daily Telegraph.
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Frederick C. de Rougemont1

Hon. Priscilla Jane Stephanie Low was born on 4 September 1949.1 She is the daughter of Toby Austin Richard William Low, 1st Baron Aldington and Felicité Ann Araminta MacMichael.1 She married Sir Hugh Ashley Roberts, son of Rt. Rev. Edward James Keymer Roberts and Dorothy Frances Bowser, on 13 December 1975.1
      Hon. Priscilla Jane Stephanie Low usually went by her middle name of Jane.1 She was educated at Cranborne Chase School, Dorset, England.1 She was educated at Westfield College, London, England.1 She was educated at Courtauld Institute of Art, The Strand, London, England.1 She was a curator in 1975 at Print Room, Royal Library, Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England.1 From 13 December 1975, her married name became Roberts.1 She wrote the book Holbien, published 1979.2 She wrote the book Leonardo, published 1981.2 She wrote the book Master Drawings in the Royal College, published 1985.2 She was invested as a Member, Royal Victorian Order (M.V.O.) in 1985.1 She wrote the book Royal Artists, published 1987.2 She wrote the book A Dictionary of Michelangelo’s Watermarks, published 1988.2 She wrote the book A King’s Purchase, published 1993.2 She wrote the book Holbein and the Court of Henry VIII, published 1993.2 She wrote the book Views of Windsor, published 1995.2 She was invested as a Lieutenant, Royal Victorian Order (L.V.O.) in 1995.1 She wrote the book Royal Landscape, published 1997.2 She wrote the book Ten Religious Masterpieces, published 2000.1
Children of Hon. Priscilla Jane Stephanie Low and Sir Hugh Ashley Roberts
Sophie Jane Cecilia Roberts1 b. 28 Mar 1978
Amelia Frances Albinia Roberts1 b. 1982

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