MITT R MONEY believes Jesus came to America after his death and resurrection. What need of St. Paul, then? Why didn’t the resurrected Jesus walk the streets of Rome. After all, he had no quarrel with Roman Slave Masters according to Paul – who bids slaves to remain slaves and be happy in your work.
Why didn’t the Mormon Jesus establish a Democracy in America, so that when the Spanish and Portuguese conquistadors got here, a Democracy set in stone – and gold plates – would be waiting for them! Then, European folks would own a powerful hint that bringing slaves from Africa, and forcing them to work for you for no wages – is just plain wrong!
Anything – but the truth – for these liars! It took a lot of courage for Jessie Benton to stand up to famous and powerful folks in her family tree and tell them they were wrong to own other human beings.
I don’t get it. Why was a mortal woman (who is my kindred) able to conclude what no Man of God was able to conclude, that slavery is a sin. I mean, didn’t these Liars for Satan read their Bible?
The Mormon church had no official doctrine for or against slaveholding, and leaders were ambivalent. In 1836 Joseph Smith wrote that masters should treat slaves humanely and that slaves owed their owners obedience. During his presidential campaign in 1844, however, he came out for abolition. Brigham Young tacitly supported slaveholding, declaring that although Utah was not suited for slavery the practice was ordained by God. In 1851 Apostle Orson Hyde said the church would not interfere in relations between master and slave.
This is a discussion being bandied about lately — mainly because two of the presidential candidates are Mormons — Romney and Huntsman (picture to right).
Mormons call themselves “Christians.” They say they believe in Jesus and the Bible and should be considered one of the many respected Christian denominations.
However, Mormons have a serious problem if they want to claim the title of “Christian”. From the earliest days of Christianity battles have raged over orthodox theology — what is it that makes a Christian? There were a good number of tenets that distinguished an orthodox Christian from a heretical group. The Fathers of the Church, the Popes and the Councils were very clear on this.
A few of the essentials of Christian doctrine were 1) the Trinity: there is one God, but God is a Trinity of three distinct co-eternal Persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit; 2) the Two Natures of Jesus Christ, both human and divine and the fact that He is one divine person; 3) that Jesus Christ is God incarnate, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity who is co-eternal with the Father and the Holy Spirit; 4) the revelation of Christ as preached by the Apostles is the final public revelation (which ended with the death of the last apostle) and there will be no further public revelation before the final coming of Jesus Christ (CCC 66, 73; and 5) and baptism for the remission of sins in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Mormon theology denials of all of the above. God is not a Trinity but an elevated, deified man who occupies a physical body. God was once a man like us and is now one god among many who go back to eternity past. He has a wife and procreates spirit children. Jesus was not God in the flesh but a creature, actually the son of a physical Father God and a Heavenly physical mother. Each Mormon man believes he too can become a god and have his own universe. They deny that the God whom we refer to as our “Heavenly Father” is eternal or infinite; rather, he physical and can only be in one place at a time.
Mormons believe in the Great Apostasy — the unsubstantiated belief that early Christians apostatized, fell away from and abandoned the true faith — and that true Christianity was lost for 1700 years until it was recovered in 1820 by Joseph Smith. This new revelation was written down and Mormons now accept four books as the word of God. The Bible is one of the four and the only one they consider to have corruptions and is accepted with qualifications.
(Picture: Moroni gives Joseph Smith the new revelation which begins the false teaching and heresy of Mormonism. The result was the Book of Mormon which is referred to as “the most correct of any book on earth”)
“Heresy” is defined in the Catechism of the Catholic Church as “the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same” (2089). It could be argued that Mormons are not baptized so the “post-baptismal” qualification eliminates them. However, Joseph Smith denied historic Christianity (Trinity, dual natures of Christ, etc.) and accepted new revelations that contradicted and denied Christian truth. His teaching was heresy.
The word “heresy” originally came from Latin hairesis meaning “choice” or “to choose.” In other words, heresy is abandoning the truth to make another or your own choice, a choice to believe something contrary to orthodox Christian doctrine.
Among Evangelical Protestants the word “cult” usually refers to a religious group claiming to be Christian but denying the essential doctrines of historical Christianity. These would include Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses and other such groups that deny the essential tenets of the Trinity, divinity of Christ and the personhood of the Holy Spirit and more. Thus, the term “cult” is applied to Mormons. So, it is no surprise that while speaking to his congregation Pastor Robert Jeffers referred to Mormonism as a cult. It is certainly consistent with Evangelical teaching. He was using the word in the context it is understood in Protestant circles.
Outside of Evangelical circles the word “cult” has a wider meaning, such as a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object; a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister; a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing. A lot of groups would fit within these categories.
Catholics use the word in the wider senses. Even the devotion to a saint is often referred to — without a negative connotation — as the “cult of so-and-so.” In this wider context it means religious devotion toward a person or object, such as to the Cross, the Holy Face of Christ, the Eucharist, etc. So cult can be used either positively or negatively by Catholics, though in popular Protestant thought it is usually negative.
(Picture: Third Ecumenical Council of Ephesus in 431)
The word “cult” is somewhat subjective regarding religious groups. But the word “heretical” is less ambiguous. While one can argue whether Mormons are a cult or not, it is clear that they are a heretical group compared with the historic Catholic faith. Doctrines like those held by Mormons were called heresy without apology by the Church Fathers. They fought — often to the death as martyrs — against teachings similar to those held by Mormons.
The question of whether a Mormon would make a good president or not is a completely different discussion. For a great discussion on this matter, listen to Al Kresta’s commentary. At this point anyone would be better than the man in the White House today in my opinion. Here I only wanted to discuss the words “cult” and “heresy” in the context of Mormonism in relationship to historical, Catholic theology. Even though Mormons tend to be good moral people and there is much we can agree with them on, in this context Mormonism is definitely heretical in contrast to the Catholic faith.
Mormons are NOT Christians according to the historical and Catholic definition of Christian. Joseph Smith was not a true prophet. Mormonism is a false religion and is heretical.
The Father testifies of his Beloved Son—Christ appears and proclaims his atonement—The people feel the wound marks in his hands and feet and side—They cry Hosanna—He sets forth the mode and manner of baptism—The spirit of contention is of the devil—Christ’s doctrine is that men should believe and be baptized and receive the Holy Ghost. About A.D. 34.
1 And now it came to pass that there were a great multitude agathered together, of the people of Nephi, round about the temple which was in the land bBountiful; and they were marveling and wondering one with another, and were showing one to another the cgreat and marvelous change which had taken place.
2 And they were also conversing about this Jesus Christ, of whom the asign had been given concerning his death.
3 And it came to pass that while they were thus conversing one with another, they heard a avoice as if it came out of heaven; and they cast their eyes round about, for they understood not the voice which they heard; and it was not a harsh voice, neither was it a loud voice; nevertheless, and notwithstanding it being a bsmall voice it did cpierce them that did hear to the center, insomuch that there was no part of their frame that it did not cause to quake; yea, it did pierce them to the very soul, and did cause their hearts to burn.
4 And it came to pass that again they heard the voice, and they aunderstood it not.
5 And again the third time they did hear the voice, and did aopen their ears to hear it; and their eyes were towards the sound thereof; and they did look steadfastly towards heaven, from whence the sound came.
6 And behold, the third time they did understand the voice which they heard; and it said unto them:
7 Behold my aBeloved Son, bin whom I am well pleased, in whom I have glorified my name—hear ye him.
8 And it came to pass, as they understood they cast their eyes up again towards heaven; and behold, they asaw a Man bdescending out of heaven; and he was clothed in a white robe; and he came down and stood in the midst of them; and the eyes of the whole multitude were turned upon him, and they durst not open their mouths, even one to another, and wist not what it meant, for they thought it was an angel that had appeared unto them.
9 And it came to pass that he stretched forth his hand and spake unto the people, saying:
10 Behold, I am Jesus Christ, whom the prophets testified shall come into the world.
11 And behold, I am the alight and the life of the world; and I have drunk out of that bitter bcup which the Father hath given me, and have glorified the Father in ctaking upon me the sins of the world, in the which I have suffered the dwill of the Father in all things from the beginning.
12 And it came to pass that when Jesus had spoken these words the whole multitude afell to the earth; for they remembered that it had been bprophesied among them that Christ should cshow himself unto them after his ascension into heaven.
13 And it came to pass that the aLord spake unto them saying:
14 Arise and come forth unto me, that ye may athrust your hands into my side, and also that ye may bfeel the prints of the nails in my hands and in my feet, that ye may know that I am the cGod of Israel, and the God of the whole dearth, and have been slain for the sins of the world.
15 And it came to pass that the multitude went forth, and thrust their hands into his side, and adid feel the prints of the nails in his hands and in his feet; and this they did do, going forth one by one until they had all gone forth, and did see with their eyes and did feel with their hands, and did know of a surety and did bear record, that it was he, of whom it was written by the prophets, that should come.
16 And when they had all gone forth and had witnessed for themselves, they did cry out with one accord, saying:
17 Hosanna! Blessed be the name of the Most High God! And they did fall down at the feet of Jesus, and did aworship him.
18 And it came to pass that he spake unto aNephi (for Nephi was among the multitude) and he commanded him that he should come forth.
19 And Nephi arose and went forth, and abowed himself before the Lord and did bkiss his feet.
20 And the Lord commanded him that he should aarise. And he arose and stood before him.
21 And the Lord said unto him: I give unto you apower that ye shall bbaptize this people when I am again ascended into heaven.
22 And again the Lord called aothers, and said unto them likewise; and he gave unto them power to baptize. And he said unto them: On this wise shall ye baptize; and there shall be bno disputations among you.
23 Verily I say unto you, that whoso repenteth of his sins through your awords, and bdesireth to be baptized in my name, on this wise shall ye baptize them—Behold, ye shall go down and cstand in the water, and in my name shall ye baptize them.
24 And now behold, these are the words which ye shall say, calling them by name, saying:
25 Having aauthority given me of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the bFather, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
26 And then shall ye aimmerse them in the water, and come forth again out of the water.
27 And after this manner shall ye abaptize in my name; for behold, verily I say unto you, that the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost are bone; and I am in the Father, and the Father in me, and the Father and I are one.
28 And according as I have commanded you thus shall ye baptize. And there shall be no adisputations among you, as there have hitherto been; neither shall there be disputations among you concerning the points of my doctrine, as there have hitherto been.
29 For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of acontention is not of me, but is of the bdevil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another.
30 Behold, this is not my doctrine, to stir up the hearts of men with anger, one against another; but this is my doctrine, that such things ashould be done away.
31 Behold, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will declare unto you my adoctrine.
32 And this is my adoctrine, and it is the doctrine which the Father hath given unto me; and I bear brecord of the Father, and the Father beareth record of me, and the cHoly Ghost beareth record of the Father and me; and I bear record that the Father commandeth all men, everywhere, to repent and believe in me.
33 And whoso believeth in me, and is abaptized, the same shall be bsaved; and they are they who shall cinherit the kingdom of God.
34 And whoso believeth not in me, and is not abaptized, shall be damned.
35 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that this is my doctrine, and I bear record of it from the Father; and whoso abelieveth in me believeth in the Father also; and unto him will the Father bear record of me, for he will visit him bwith fire and with the cHoly Ghost.
36 And thus will the Father bear record of me, and the aHoly Ghost will bear record unto him of the Father and me; for the Father, and I, and the Holy Ghost are bone.
37 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and abecome as a blittle child, and be baptized in my name, or ye can in nowise receive these things.
38 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and be baptized in my name, and become as a little achild, or ye can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God.
39 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that this is my adoctrine, and whoso bbuildeth upon this buildeth upon my rock, and the cgates of hell shall not prevail against them.
40 And whoso shall adeclare more or less than this, and establish it for my doctrine, the same cometh of evil, and is not built upon my rock; but he buildeth upon a bsandy foundation, and the gates of hell stand open to receive such when the floods come and the winds beat upon them.
41 Therefore, go forth unto this people, and declare the words which I have spoken, unto the ends of the earth.