The Wolf and Swan of Rosemont

The Rosemont and Roover family intermarried. They were Swan Brethren, and may be the figures in Bosch’s painting ‘Wedding at Cana’.

Jon Presco

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The Roesmont-Roover Brotherhood and the Wedding at Cana

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(Images: Rover family and Magi. St. Janskirk church. Dining hall of the Swan Brethren. Wedding at Cana by Bosch a Swan Brother.)

Ghisburtus van Roesmont was a Dutch nobleman of some importance. His mother was jonkvrouw Adriana Theodorici ROVER. the daughter of Dirk Edmondszn ROOVER. The Roover family appears to descend from one of the Radbot rulers of Holland who was given the name Roover, or Rover due to conquest of the Netherlands. The Roover family would build Montfoort castle one of the most prestigious castles in Holland. These two families were keen on forming a marriage alliance as Arnold Rover married Heilwigis Arnoldi Danielis ROESMONT. For this reason I suspect the Roesmont Wolf names came from Roelof the Roover R + Odilia van Montfoort. Perhaps the Roovers owned Wolfhouse where the Roesmonts came to live in 1450.

Ghisburtus was the master of Saint Janskerk, and a member of Lieve-Vrouwe-broederschap that met in Janskerk church. Hieronymus Bosch was a member of the Zwanenbroeders (swan brothers) and was commissioned by the master of Janskerk to do a stained-glass window for the church. The Zwanenbroeders commissioned Bosch to do other work the most important being ‘The Marriage Feast at Cana’. This painting has symbols that relate to the Zwanenbroeders and thus this painting may constitute the only true riddle involving a brotherhood of men and a supper where Jesus is centerpiece. The worship of Our Lady is eluded to in the swan being served up on a platter. The swan is a symbol of Venus, but, with the presence of the crescent moon and the boar’s head, then this Lady is Artemis/Diana who unleashed the Calydonian Boar that was killed by the Arganots. This is interesting as Radbod made a treaty with Grimoald the Merovingian Frank and gave his daughter, Theodelindis in marriage. The Frankish nobles rose up against the usurpation in the palace of the Franks and bid Radbod to intervene with an armed force, which he did.

Above is the oldest Dutch painting in existence. It show four generations of Roover leaders in knights armour being led by Saint George, the pataon saint of knights before Maria. I am entertaining a theory that these Rovers see themselves as Arganots, and may be the source of the name Huguenots, or Haguenots of Hague where King Floris built his castle.

With the discovery of the original spelling of the ROESMONT family, I conclude that the the fictional movie knight, Floris von Rosemondt, is based upon a member of the Roesmont family. Perhaps a producer saw the coat of arms for Roesmont in the hall of Zwanenbroedershuis.

http://www.absart.nl/floris.html

The Knight Rosemondt, a Robin Hood character, was played by Rutger Hauer who was considered Holland’s Errol Flynn. My mother Rosemary and my aunt Lillain, the youngest daughters of Royal Rosamond, both dated Errol Flynn. “Truth is stranger the fiction.” Rosamond, the Frisian Folk Mother, was considered a ruler of Holland and may be a fictional person. But, with the Roesmont of Holland, who knows?

The Roesmonts have dined in the halls of four guilds that I know of, and thus may constitute the oldest lineage of Brothers who made marriage unions within the Brotherhood that kept tiny Holland a sovereign nation to this very day.

Jon Presco

Copyright 2007

“In the rooms stand be based on wide fifty ancient, of which foresee the backs be of the family weapons of members of the brotherhood. In the Zwanenbroedershuis family weapons are see at a lot of places. This way there are the weapon paintings which our tones which were in previous centuries member of the brotherhood and the weapon wapenborden with the weapons of the current members. Beside this everyone visible weapon far tone, there are the weapon books; senior has been moored in 1606. in the later weapon books the weapons of the Broeders has been signed; with the signature the membership was ratified officially. Several objects in the house show Zwanenbroeders. There its paintings of queen Juliana and princess Beatrix, and busts of Willem of oranje, queen Wilhelmina and prince hendrik.”

Photograph 1 picture postcard card of the poortgebouwPhotograph 2 picture postcard card of the poortgebouwPhotograph 3 photograph of the poortgebouwPhotograph 4 photograph of the poortgebouw during the restoration (1985)Photograph 5 photograph of the back during the restorationPhotograph 6 photograph of the interieurPhotograph 7 photograph of the interieurPhotograph 8 photograph of the poortgebouw in 1993,Afb. 1 Engraving of the castle by A. Rademaker from 1630Afb. 2 Drawing Jan the Beyer from 1746Afb. 3 Drawing from remarkable castlesAfb. 4 Drawing by Roelant Roghman (1646/47) of the castleAfb. 5 Detail of card of Montfoort by Jacob van Deventer from approx. 1560Afb. 6 Engraving of Montfoort Blaeu from 1649

http://www.vvvs-hertogenbosch.nl/vvvdb/engels.html

http://www.fictionwise.com/knight/boschsix.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calydonian_Boar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis

The marriage of Radbod’s daughter Theodelindis to Grimoald, son of Pepin “le Gros”, is recorded in 711

Zwanenbroeders are another name for the illustere kind Vrouwe brotherhood. Brotherhood was established in 1318 in s hertogenbosch. The organisation aimed at the worship of Maria. Reason for that was the rising Mariadevotie in the city. Those arose by wonders which were attributed to Maria, where a picture of Maria in the janskathedraaljanskathedraal janskathedraal was at issue. The name zwanenbroeders would be borrowed from the annual banquet, where among others swan on the menu stood.

Little is known about Hieronymus Bosch’s life, though it has been the subject of much speculation. He was born around 1450 as Hieronymus van Aken in ‘s-Hertogenbosch. He named himself after this Brabant city, where he lived and worked throughout his life. His father Antonius was also a painter. As a member of the Lieve Vrouwe Broederschap (Brotherhood of Our Lady) in ‘s-Hertogenbosch he designed an embroidery, a candelabrum and a stained-glass window for the chapel in the St Janskerk. Working there at the same time was Alart Duhameel, the master builder of the chapel and the late Gothic cathedral, which was then under construction. Archives reveal through tax records and other documents, information about financial transactions and family matters which indicate that Bosch led a comfortable life. The only commission for which there is documentary evidence is that by the Burgundian ruler, Philip the Fair, for a large altarpiece with ‘The Last Judgment’.

http://www.geerts.com/holland/holland-1.htm

VAN DER POIRTEN, Arnoldus Rover

Arnoldus Rover VAN DER POIRTEN married Heilwigis Arnoldi Danielis ROESMONT.

Heilwigis Arnoldi Danielis ROESMONT [Parents] married Arnoldus Rover VAN DER POIRTEN.
jonker Dirk Edmondszn ROOVER married Beatrix Gijsbertsdr. VAN TUYL.

Beatrix Gijsbertsdr. VAN TUYL married jonker Dirk Edmondszn ROOVER.

Adriana Theodorici ROVER [Parents] married Danielis ROESMONT
301. Daniel ROESMONT, embark 1402.,1411.,1423 and 1442. he was town running master in 1399 and 1406, and held different years the office of rentmeester of the fields in the city and Meyerij of s hertogenbosch. He had married with adriana the Roover, for the of nobleman Dirk Edmondszn., ships and Council, and of its third woman Beatrix van Tuyl Gijsbertsdr.
302. Gijsbert ROESMONT. After dying the ships nobleman hendrik Heym in 1427 took he are place on the ship chair. He was church master of Saint Janskerk, member of Lieve-Vrouwe-broederschap and died in 1449
306. Nobleman Arnold the ROOVER Dirkszn., knight, embark 1349 and 1355. he had married with Catharina Berthout said of Berlaer, for the of Lodewijk, lord of Helmond and Keerbergen, and of Johanna van Dinther. After dying her he have been still remarried with Maria van Leyenberg Gerardsdr. The Roover were member of the Lieve-Vrouwe-broederschap and exchanged it temporary with eternal in 1384 307. Nobleman Dirck the Roover Janszn., lord of the Nemerlaer. He was appointed as ships in 1386.,1391.,1394.,1399.,1403.,1406.,1407.,1410.,1411 and 1418. he held in 1411 the chairmanship and died during he ship were in 1418th its continuator in the ship chair was nobleman Gerard Monix. He married Agnes, supposedly for the of nobleman Dirk van Houweningen, knight, bailiff of zuid-Holland, and of Agnes van Ysselstein. Lieve-Vrouwe-broederschap counted the Roover under its members 308. Nobleman Geerlink the ROOVER Edmondszn., embark 1503.,1510.,1517 and 1521. he was innkeeper (bewaarder, lock tutor) of the castle at Heeswijk, then an open house of the duke of brabant. On 28 June 1512 he travelled with the edellieden knight Jan van Baecx, laagschout, Mr. Jan van Vladeracken, lord of Geffen, president, Lambert Millinck, sworn, Martinus of Campen, Council lord, the town secretary Mr. Simon van Coudenberch and Jan van Kessel, schout of Boxtel, to Turnhout to greet name of the city emperor Maximiliaan, tutor of under 21 the duke Karel, and concerning the town share in the war costs with gelderland to pronounce. During this war the Roover were of the four fortificatiemeesters of the city, which had been in particular dedicated ensure its strengthening and security. He dissipated in September 1513 with five small flags foot people in service of the city the geldersen from the borough Megen. The Roover had married with Geertruida neck Herbertsdr., died 9 September 1524 and in Saint Janskerk were buried. The line the Roover can be called, however, the oldest government family of s’-Hertogenbosch. At the beginning of the 13e centuries we find already the Roover in the ship chair, also during the 14e, 15e to the first parts of the 16, century sat its members in the government. Geerlink, bovengemeld were the last. Moreover it held the four Roovers high in look staande office of hoogschout of the city and Meyerij of s hertogenbosch
1483
Ghisbertus of of the poorten give a house to the brotherhood to the Hinthamerstraat (now no. 94).

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Zwanenbroeders are another name for the illustere kind Vrouwe brotherhood. Brotherhood was established in 1318 in s hertogenbosch. The organisation aimed at the worship of Maria. Reason for that was the rising Mariadevotie in the city. Those arose by wonders which were attributed to Maria, where a picture of Maria in the janskathedraaljanskathedraal janskathedraal was at issue. The name zwanenbroeders would be borrowed from the annual banquet, where among others swan on the menu stood.
Initially only members had been dovetailed from the clerus the genootschap. Already fast also others were allowed. After the inname of s hertogenbosch by Frederik hendrik in 1629 change the character of the genootschap.
As from 1642 the genootschap existed from 18 catholic and 18 Protestant members. This was a compromise, but it was decided because Willem of oranje member have been, that half catholic and other half had be reformed be. Generally it concerns people with a prominent social position. Among others its member are Willem of oranje and the painter Jeroen bosch. Under the current members are themselves Beatrix queen and crown prince Willem-Alexander.
The genootschap has its own ‘ association bldg. ‘: the ‘ Zwanenbroedershuis ‘ in pine bosch. Since 1483 this has established in the Hinthamerstraat. Current early -neogotische Zwanenbroedershuis date from 1846 and as a museum have been opened for public.

The Brotherhood had two types
of members: ordinary members and sworn members, also called ‘swan-brethren’
because they used to donate a swan for the yearly banquet. Sworn members were
clerics in principle; in fact they were often chosen among the nobility, the mag-
istrates, etc.
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As a result, the Brotherhood also functioned as an important social
network.
That may have been the reason why in 1641 the military governor of the
town, Johan-Wolfert van *Brederode (1599–1655), asked to be admitted despite
the fact that he was a Protestant. He made the request not only for himself but
for thirteen others, all Protestant. They were Brederode’s right hand Philip van
Thienen, town commander and deputy governor; Hendrick Bergaigne, Hendrick
Kuysten, Gysbert Pieck van Tienhoven, Andries de Fresne, Adriaan Ploos van
Amstel, Rutger Tullekens, Jacob van Casteren, Otto Copes, Johan Ruysch, Pieter
Lus, Johan Gans van Bommenede, and Lazarus van Zonst.
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All were connected
either with the military or with the town administration. In fact, the better half
of the administration applied for membership.
Brederode’s request caused much embarrassment, among Roman Catholics
as well as Protestants. Catholics resented the idea, which they saw as a first step
towards secularisation. Protestants on the other hand saw it as an act of idola-
try. The fact that Andries de Fresne, Johan Gans and Otto Copes were Elders
of the ‘Walloon Church’ (‘ É wallonne’ or French Huguenot Church), and
Ploos van Amstel and Van Zonst of the Dutch Reformed Church, caused addi-
tional scandal. The Brotherhood on the other hand had little choice—rejection
of Brederode’s proposal would almost certainly lead to its total suppression.
In spite, therefore, of the dissenting voices of an important minority (several
of whom left the Brotherhood in protest) they decided that the Brotherhood
would be mixed—eventually the sworn members would be half Catholic, half
Protestant (even if for the moment there were still 28 Catholics against only 13
Protestants)—and would pursue its activities ‘in so far as they are not contrary
to the laws and religion of the United Provinces’. Roman Catholics on the other
hand would not be vexed in their conscience or hindered in their private worship.

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Jan the Roover + Plectrude of Stoutenburg Roelof the Roover R + Odilia van Montfoort Oranje-nassau Arent the Roover 1217-1297 (Amsterdam) Emond the rover 1238-1245 (brabant) Dirk the Roever 1315-1328 + Jutta the Cock van Weerdenburch Gerrit the Roever 1352-1375 … + Van Buuren Gerrit the Roever 1390 -…. Gerrit D’Abt the Roever 1405-1424 Gerrit the Roever 1431-1444 + Catharina Van Beesde Hendrik the Roever 1462-1504 + Elisabeth Van Heessel Peter the Roever….-1548 + N.N. Holl Johan the Roever….-1586 + Christina Gerrit the Roever 1540-1612 + Christina of peat Peter the Roever 1566 -…. + Francina of Niell Dirk the Roever….-1665 + Maria van Cattenburch Dirk the Roever 1638-1694 + Elisabeth Witteboll Wijnand the Roever 1680-1756 + Johanna Sweerts Arent the Roever 1714-1754 + Elisabeth Mensma Dirck the Roever 1754-1836 + Jannette of of the Hans Lambertus the Roever 1790-1860 + Catharina Bart Lambertus the Roever (1834) – emigrated to USAS around 1861, married Maria Elisabeth Sjoerd freeze (1835) there (she were originally from Amsterdam, emigrated to USAS in 1860) the US branch… Johannes Gerrit the Roever 1824-1880 + Johanna Christina Onderberg 1830-1913 Johan Christiaan the Roever 1862-1945 + Antje Verhey 1874-19.. Hendrik Tjacco the earl + Maria Reitsma Johanna Hilda Adriana the Roever (1908) + Johannes the earl 1911-1993 Bea, awl, Maaike, Hanneke JT HZ =================================================================more roots JT and HZ: granny and opa jthz: Johanna Hilda Adriana (Annie) the Roever, doctor, and its man Johannes the earl, doctor in theology; Johannes the earl, born 14 July 1911 as a zoon of prof. Dr. hendrik Tjacco the earl and Maria Reitsma, had the following functions: 1935-1939 general secretary of the liberally Christian youth call centre, 1939-1946 preacher in the Protestant church in Ned.O.Indie (to the Japanese bezetting with duty station Medan, Sumatra’s East coast, afterwards geinterneerd), 1946-1952 in Haarlem predecessor of liberally reformed, 1952-1955 the same in arnhem, and from 1955 up to 1976 hoog-leraar theology to the realm university in Utrecht. The children from its marriage withJohanna Hilda Adriana the Roever are: (1) Beatrix the earl, geb.12 March 1936, in 1963, married with Herman hendrik of of the Wusten, doctorandus in the sociography, scientifically head employee to the university of Amsterdam, at the time of writing this text itself preparatory on its academic promotion on 16 September 1977; they have two yet-delicate, Heleen and Jessica; (2) Else the earl, geb. 19 January 1939, doctoranda in the Slavonian letteren, in 1964, married with, yet of Augustinus Amadeus separated Victor Louis Thyssen, also slavist; they have two children, Julius Benedictus and Victorine; (3) Maaike the earl, geb. 23 April 1941, candidaat traditional languages, in 1964, married with Kees Wouter Zimmerman, doctor; they have three children, Wouter, Hens, and Anne-Martha; (4) Johanna Christina the earl, geb. 31 augusts 1947, studente romanistiek, married with Henk of pine squat, have 1 for the, Wobbie. ================================================================== 1. rad bolt, leader in the army which of the francs to the countries concerning the rijn sent the king to drive off the noormannen from that (866-876 after chr.), burned and plundered there this way thorough, whom the people him ‘ the Roover ‘ called; 2. 0tto, bijgenaamd the Roover, as well as its father with Frankisch an army accelerated against the noormannen yet there it withdrew himself the peel in that buurt this way unsafe after its defeat in the marsh, built himself houten a castle and made that the occupants that lock called soon Hellemont; 3: rad bolt the Roover were in large regard at emperor Otto and obtained of him the possession of thepeel or Peelland as a leen of the bishop of Utrecht in 978 (NB we are generations now two and 110 years further); 4. 0dulph the Rooverare called in charters of the years 990.,998 and 1000; as well as its father and father governor of amersfoort, become doot otto II bevestiqd in the possession of the peel, married Waramonda, for the ofthe lord of Cuyck and Kessel; 5. 0tto or Odulph the Roover, called in charters of 1041 and 1042, were confirmed in the possession of Peelland emperor hendrik II, married Plectrude, for the of the lords of Altena and Heusden; 6. 0dulph the Roover made a travel to saint country, large reinflations “(levied many taxes)” did for Rob(b)ert (Robrecht) fries, the earl of Flanders, and was with these present at the battle of Kassel (1071), it is called in a charter of 1072, and died hoogbejaard in 1122, had married with Withil van Arckel(its brother Otto the Roover the first earl of Megen, it had been confirmed by emperor Koenraad bishop Andries van Cuyk against defendedin 1137); 7. Herman the Roover, called in charters of the years 1121.1127 and 1137, Dirk, earl of the Netherlands, its uncle disputed Otto the possession married with Machtilde, sister of Otto of goor, innkeeper of Utrecht; 8. Jan the Roover to knight was beaten in saint country, is called in charters of the years 1154 and 1160, had married with Walburg, sister of bishop Godfried of Rhenen; 9. Jan the Roover is confirmed in the possession of Peelland in 1178 Godfried of Rhenen and in 1197 Arnold van IJsenburg; further he is called in a charter of 1233; he died on the age of 96 years; he had married with Plectrude of Stoutenburg; he had a lot of children among which hendrik, Roland, where the house Montfoort of descends, Walburg, Dirk This tale descends from a chronicle, in 1657 use the Boisschot, earl of Erps, baron of Saventhem at the application to recognition of nobility adeldom van Francois: Later this filiation was again certified by the prince of nassau dd.27 and prince the Ligne dd.28 febr.1686 the unknown samensteller of aforesaid line list calls itselfconcerning the older generations on the ounce completely unknown chronicle frequently remained of Sweer Almus and Guillaume van Vieen, from which Butkens in its Annales the drawer Maison the Lynden pass many times quotations, thus Nicolaas the Roever. As a criticism on Radbout-legende he, which in time course of than four centuries only 10 generations more act, calls, which number of in each genealogie is found within 250 a 300 years, and which samensteller dezes seems a stronger argument, because some generations in the vergeetboek can be touched that planned themselves from the Radbout-legende (against the commonly applying habit in) whole differences of that, he who at historical the Roovere’s continuously return.

The earliest recorded Duke of Frisia was Radbod. The Continuator of Fredegar states that he was defeated by Pepin “le Gros”, maior domus of Austrasia, at Duurstede in [692/97], and that he made a treaty with Ragamfred maior domus of Neustria in [716][4]. The marriage of Radbod’s daughter Theodelindis to Grimoald, son of Pepin “le Gros”, is recorded in 711 in the Annales Metenses[5].

1. RATBOD (-719[44]). Duke of the Frisians. He was defeated by Pepin “le Gros”, maior domus of Austrasia, at Duurstede in [692/97][45]. He made a treaty with Ragamfred maior domus of Neustria in [716][46]. The Chronologia Johannes de Beke records that “Radbodus rex” died “apud insulam Fostenslandie”[47].

a) THEODESINDIS . The Chronicon Moissiacense names “Thudsindam filiam Radbodi ducis” as wife of “Grimaldus”[48]. Her marriage is referred to by the Continuator of Fredegar[49]. Sigeberto’s Vita Landiberto episcopi Traiectensis refers to the betrothal of “Grimoaldus” and “Rabbodonis ducis Fresionum…filiæ”[50]. The date of the marriage is provided by the Annales Metenses which record the marriage in 711 of “Grimoaldus” and “filiam Radboldi ducis Frisionum”[51]. m GRIMOALD son of PEPIN “le Gros” maior domus of Austrasia and Neustria & his first wife Plectrudis — (-murdered Liège Apr 714). His father named him maiordomus in Neustria [695] and in Burgundy [700].

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Radbod or Redbad (d.719) was the duke (or king) of Frisia from 680 to 719. He is often considered the last independent ruler of Frisia (or Friesland) before Frankish domination.
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While his father, Duke Aldegisel (or Eadgils, Aldgisl which can be translated as ‘Old Whip’), had welcomed Christianity into his realm, Radbod attempted to extirpate the religion and free the Frisians from subjugation to the Merovingian kingdom of the Franks. In 689, Radbod was, however, defeated by Pippin of Herstal in the battle of Dorestad and compelled to cede West Frisia (Frisia Citerior, meaning Nearer Frisia, from the Scheldt to the Vlie) to the Franks.
Between 690 and 692, Utrecht fell into the hands of Pippin of Herstal. This gave the Franks control of important trade routes on the Rhine to the North Sea. Some sources say that, following this defeat, Radbod retreated, in 697, to the island of Heligoland, others say he retreated to the part of Holland that is still known as Friesland.
On Pippin’s death in 714, Radbod took the initiative again. He forced Saint Willibrord and his monks to flee and advanced as far as Cologne, where he defeated Charles Martel, Pippin’s natural son, in 716. Eventually, however, Charles prevailed and compelled the Frisians to submit. Radbod died in 719, but for some years his successors struggled against the Frankish power.

During the second journey of Saint Boniface to Rome, Willibrord tried to convert Radbod, but not succeeding he returned to Fontenelle. It is said that Radbod was nearly baptised, but refused when he was told that he would not be able to find any of his ancestors in Heaven after his death, since he preferred spending eternity in Hell with his pagan ancestors than in Heaven with strangers. This legend is also told with Willibrord being replaced with Wulfram (or Vulfran), a monk and ex-archbishop of Sens.

Willibrord tried this while on a Carolingian-sponsored mission into Frisia with the express purpose of trying to convert the pagan Frisians living there in the hope that, once they had converted to Christianity, the Franks could gain control of the important trade port Dorestad, which they had up to that point been unable to do.
c> I have Catherine of Holland (daughter of Floran V of Holland[1254-1296])c> who was married N. de Montfort de Rover.=== Cut ===Male descendants of Roelof van MONTFOORT Page : 1I.1 Roelof van MONTFOORT (De Rovere), born circa 1200, diedcirca 1260.Married circa 1230 to Odilia van MONTFOORT, born circa1200.From this marriage:1. Hendrik van MONTFOORT (see also II.1).II.1 Hendrik van MONTFOORT, born circa 1250, died on12-01-1299. Burggraaf van Montfoort.Married circa 1280 to nn van BEUSINCHEM VIANEN, borncirca 1250, died circa 1300, daughter of Sweder vanBEUSINCHEM and nn van VLOISTALE?From this marriage:1. Zweder (de Rovere) van MONTFOORT (see also III.1).2. Roelof van MONTFOORT, born circa 1280, died on26-09-1345. Heer van Heulestein.Married circa 1300 to Oda van BENTHEIM, born circa1280, died on 26-09-1345.III.1 Zweder (de Rovere) van MONTFOORT, born circa 1280, diedon 02-01-1331. Burggraaf van Montfoort.Married on 21-04-1301 to Catharina van HOLLAND, borncirca 1280, died on 12-08-1328, daughter of Floris Vvan HOLLAND (der Keerlen God) and Anna van HEUSDEN.From this marriage:1. Hendrik van MONTFOORT (see also IV.1).2. Adeline van MONTFOORT, born circa 1305, died on04-04-1325.Married circa 1323 to Johan van ROZENBURG, borncirca 1300, died circa 1350.3. Willem van MONTFOORT (see also IV.5).4. Floris van MONTFOORT, born circa 1310, died circa1346. Heer van Linschoten.Married circa 1330 to Kunegonde van ZUYLEN, borncirca 1310, died circa 1350.IV.1 Hendrik van MONTFOORT, born circa 1305, died on15-10-1333. Burggraaf van Montfoort.Married circa 1322 to Agnes van AMSTEL, born circa1310, died on 17-01-1360, daughter of Arend Arnold vanAMSTEL and Maria van AVESNES.From this marriage:1. Johan van MONTFOORT, born circa 1325, died on26-09-1345. Heer van Montfoort.Married circa 1340 to Maria van POLANEN, born circa1325, died circa 1375, daughter of Jan van POLANENand Catharina van BREDERODE.2. Zweder van MONTFOORT (see also V.3).V.3 Zweder van MONTFOORT, born circa 1330, died on01-08-1375. Burggraaf van Montfoort.Married on 10-04-1348 to Mechtild van CULEMBORG, borncirca 1330, died on 27-02-1390, daughter of Hubert vanCULEMBORG and Jutta van der LECK.From this marriage:1. Hendrik van MONTFOORT (see also VI.1).VI.1 Hendrik van MONTFOORT, born circa 1350, died on29-10-1402. Burggraaf van Montfoort.Married on 30-05-1378 to Oda van POLANEN, born circa1350, died on 07-01-1407, daughter of Jan van POLANENand Oda van HORN.From this marriage:1. Jan van MONTFOORT (see also VII.1).2. Lodewijk van MONTFOORT, born circa 1385, died on24-05-1451, heer van Hazerswoude.3. Willem van MONTFOORT (see also VII.4).VII.1 Jan van MONTFOORT, born circa 1380, died on 17-01-1448.Burggraaf van Montfoort.Married on 29-09-1422 to Kunegonde van BRONKHORST, borncirca 1400, died circa 1460, daughter of Gijsbert vanBRONKHORST and Hedwig van TECKLENBURG.From this marriage:1. Hendrik van MONTFOORT, born circa 1400, died circa1459. Burggraaf van Montfoort.Married circa 1432 to Margarethe van CROY, borncirca 1410, died circa 1480, daughter of Antoine deCROY and Maria van ROUBAIX.VII.4 Willem van MONTFOORT, born circa 1389, died circa 1468.Married circa 1410 to nn van MONTFOORT? Born circa1390, van onbekende herkomst.From this marriage:1. Oda van MONTFOORT, born circa 1410, died circa1462.Married circa 1435 to Johan van der AA vanRANDERODE, born circa 1410.IV.5 Willem van MONTFOORT, born circa 1310, died circa 1345in Warns, heer van Montfoort.Married circa 1335 to Katharina van de NESSE, borncirca 1310, died circa 1351.From this marriage:1. Hendrik (de Roover) van MONTFOORT, born circa 1340,died circa 1387.Married circa 1360 to Meyne van SWIETEN, born circa1340, died circa 1390. Vrouwe van Swieten.

In 1320 Roelof get the rover, the brother of the Viscount of Montfoort, a piece ground on the flow back between Montfoort and Linschoten in leen of earl Willem III of the Netherlands. The previous feudatory, Janne of collaborate, have died. Roelof build here as a feudatory of the earl of the Netherlands a castle that he ‘Heulestein’ calls. The Viscount of Montfoort is not happy with the continuing attempts of the earl of the Netherlands its extend power area and the understanding between Roelof and its brother Zweder goes not ahead. The earl of the Netherlands even quarters a Dutch bezetting on Heulestein. But Zweders zoon hendrik are Dutch disposed and as from the moment that he succeeds its father, the family draws the rover jointly at strijde. In 1345 sneuvelt Roelof in the army of earl Willem IV of the Netherlands in the friese Warns. With him fall Viscount Jan the rover of Montfoort and Willem the rover, the founder of castle the Nesse. Roelofs zoon hendrik return heavily wounded to Heulestein, but repair. For the memory he lets make a painting on which its father and cousins have kneeled for Maria have been represented. The family the rover is meanwhile a power factor on the border of founds and the Netherlands becomes and in their striving towards an independent position they undertake also strooptochten by founds. In 1353 the army of the bishop besieges castle Heulestein. The citadel is taken and is devastated, but also rapidly built. After the death of hendrik the castle comes in 1361 in the hands of its sister Hadewich. Also she has the castle in leen of the earl of the Netherlands and supports the earl therefore in the war of 1373-1375 with founds. In the winter of 1374 and 1375 a Dutch bezetting on Heulestein has been quartered. Hadewich do not live on the castle. In 1376 its zoon draws Jan van Zuylen in Heulestein, without authorisation of Hadewich and its second spouse. They accuse the Viscount of Montfoort of it that he has incited Jan, but the Viscount denies. Eventually Jan he promises van Zuylen that the leen will transfer to Hubrecht of Montfoort, the brother of the Viscount. Thus Heulestein in the hands of the family the rover remains.Viscount Jan II of Montfoort are thesaurier and city holder of the Netherlands under Jacoba of Bavaria. It is a restless time: Jacoba are in war with its uncle Jan concerning the county the Netherlands. In 1418, as Jacoba to the losing hand, asks the Viscount authorisation is to be allowed break Heulestein finished. He is frightened for a hostile Dutch troop power this way dense at its own Montfoort. At the old castle area a farm is built. The current farm dates from 1659. the place where the castle has stood, is still recognizable by the grachten.

I have Catherine of Holland (daughter of Floran V of Holland [1254-1296])who was married N. de Montfort de Rover. Another Carherine of Holland(daughter of Johann I of Holland [1281-1299]) was married Zweden I burggrafof Montfort de Rover. I have 3 questions: 1) Is this information right?; 2)what way are these two persons relatives (if any)?; is there any relationsberween Montfort de Rover family and house Montfort-d’Amoury?d

Establishment in 1318In the year 1318 the offici’le establishment took place of a brotherhood for the ere van Maria in s hertogenbosch. The original oprichtingsacte have been kept remained and are themselves in the file of the brotherhood.The members of the brotherhood met in their own vault in the St Janskerk where they among other things vespers fourth. Later they built to twice a new vault; the last is the current saint sacrament vault beside the they chancel. Beside the worship of Maria the brotherhood was active in the field of the poor relief. Also the brotherhood has to a great extent contributed as from the 14e centuries to the development of s hertogenbosch as an important centre of late medieval music. In the 15e centuries took place as a result of the institute of outside members, an enormous extension of the number of members to far in the current Belgi and Germany. In the course of the 16th century the number of members decreased drastically, whereas when also the mental devotionele element lost meaning.Meetings in its own house in the form of loving meals with music will take an always more important place. Under the members of the brotherhood one in 15e and the 16th century fameuze persons of numerous nature finds, which link here Willem of oranje as well as Jeroen cannot remain bosch certainly unmentioned. Also important lines like of nassau, Van Egmond, Van Wassenaar, Van Brederode, Bronkhorst and Van Bylandt had been represented in the brotherhood.In the eighty-year-old war the brotherhood experienced difficult times, but also after the conquest of pine bosch in 1629 Fredrik hendrik she continued exist. In 1641 the Protestant governor of s hertogenbosch with some of its friends admission to the brotherhood requested. Their request was remunerated. There new statutes, which stipulated among others, came that the brotherhood would exist as of now from 18 members (broeders) in the rooms catholic and 18 members in the reformational line. This is until now the case. Beside these 36 Broeders the brotherhood knows now incl candidaatleden and candidandi.Royal membersAnd to royal persons the eretitel in addition is of Zwanenbroeder is offered. The Illustre kind Vrouwe brotherhood ensure for its secular materi’le and immateri’le cultural heritage, promote the mutual Christian solidarity and the fraternal link, and keep thereby always eye for the developments and problems in the modern time.Of the contributions which the members of the brotherhood in the form of contribution and grants pay annually the major part at behoeve of realisation of its idee’le and its cultural aims zomede is applied for the maintenance of the Zwanenbroedershuis including the collectie.ZwanenbroedershuisSince 1483 its own house has had the brotherhood to the Hinthamerstraat at s hertogenbosch, on approximately 100 meters distance of the sint Jan lain and therefore near its vault. The original house, which was cultivated partially in the 16th century in Renaissance style, collapsed in 1839, mainly. In 1846, the house now existing in neogotische style arose on the same spot. It is a very early example of neogotische construction art in our country both to exterieur and interieur. The architect is J.H. LaffertŽe. The house, which acts tevens as a museum and as such has been incorporated in the Dutch museum register, is a realm monument.FileThe file of the brotherhood has been given in preservation to the Brabantine historical information centre. The inventory is realise on http://www.bhic.nl (will by means of ‘ documents ‘ to zoeken ‘ commonly ‘; give as zoekterm on: ‘ illustre kind vrouwe brotherhood ‘).

In the vitrine large chancel books also nine lie from the sixteenth century which contains polyphonic music: seven graphemes and two press. The manuscripts are very particular: beside this zevental in s hertogenbosch are themselves music in the Netherlands only still in Leiden six similar chancel books with polyphonic. Three of the graphemes of the brotherhood from the work shop from the boasted muziekkopiist Petrus originating Alamire are. Alamire were a multi-purpose character, which mainly worked for the Habsburgse court, but also for several other frost houses and banker families in Europe. Three other chancel books, as well as the polyphonic music in the further gregorian codex Smijers is, of the hand of Philippus the Spina. The Spina worked thirty-five years as a zanger for the brotherhood, but had s hertogenbosch during the picture storm of august 1566 suddenly leave because of sympathies with the new belief. Beside the polyphonic chancel books in the file of the brotherhood find graphemes still six with gregorian, has been among others written by the Broeders of malicious living, the forward rate agreement-delicate of s hertogenbosch.The appeared as accompaniment of in 2002, book: “given pine Sangeren” of Véronique Roelvink seven work have been taken by the Egidius quartet (http://www.egidiuskwartet.nl). Click on mentioned below left to hear some examples:

Jan van Wintelroy: “already pine tijt now doloreus, the mey staet are clean”

Anonymously: “o Salutaris Hostia”

Anonymously: “now sijt willecome”

Unique also the collection of eighteen tinnen drinkkannen from the sixteenth and seventeenth century is. The kannen were used by the Broeders during their meals to drink wine from; every sworn Broeder had own drinkbeker be. On the abdomen of the kannen an image of the lelie between the thorns with the word Sicut stands. On deksels of the kannen is the name of the user and weapon has been engraved. The brotherhood has now still the kannen of among others Willem of oranje and the sepulchres of neighbours (Frederik, Floris and Maximilaan van Egmond). Tinnen drinkkannen became obsolete at a certain moment and was replaced by glazen. The brotherhood has still a collection glass work, which comes from the end from the 19th century.

End nineteenth century left the brotherhood 560-delig a servies in the colours blue and blank designs by the Porceleyne bottle at dig. The servies was made between 1881 and 1885 and the different components contain the emblem of the brotherhood (the lelie between the thorns) and the zinspreuk Sicut Lilium inter Spinas. The servies has been used a lot of years during the fraternal meal, but the most beautiful pieces, among which two large soup tureens are themselves, nowadays in the vitrinekast.In the large room neogotische a alcove is visit. Neogotische the character of the zwanenbroedershuis is retrieve also at other places. Thus neogotische a stove on first deepening, which is in the winter still in use, is himself. Several neogotische castes decorate the partitions of the different rooms. Two of the castes has been given by the ridderschap of noord-Brabant, with which the Illustre kind Vrouwe brotherhood maintain good contacts.

In the rooms stand be based on wide fifty ancient, of which foresee the backs be of the family weapons of members of the brotherhood. In the Zwanenbroedershuis family weapons are see at a lot of places. This way there are the weapon paintings which our tones which were in previous centuries member of the brotherhood and the weapon wapenborden with the weapons of the current members. Beside this everyone visible weapon far tone, there are the weapon books; senior has been moored in 1606. in the later weapon books the weapons of the Broeders has been signed; with the signature the membership was ratified officially. Several objects in the house show Zwanenbroeders. There its paintings of queen Juliana and princess Beatrix, and busts of Willem of oranje, queen Wilhelmina and prince hendrik. Wilhelmina and hendrik schonken the brotherhood in 1904, gilded zilveren jumbo derrick eel, of which foresees the lid is of a swan opvliegende. The jumbo derrick eel is used year still every during the fraternal meal for the dronk on Her Majesty. Also remainders of the medieval brotherhood house are still kept in the current Zwanenbroedershuis: two of the shutters which determined part pand modernised of in the years thirty of the sixteenth century that Gijsbert of of the poorten the Broeders had given. Also schilderijtje in the current Zwanenbroedershuis, which show the then house in its full glorie, hang. The house drew obviously the attention of several artists, because several images of have been confessed. The current Zwanenbroedershuis breathe an environment of secular traditions. One of the oldest habits to which the Illustre kind Vrouwe brotherhood attach still much value, common consuming a meal is. Once per year this happens in a massive manner in the form of the fraternal meal, which is still kept in its own house.

http://www.zwanenbroedershuis.nl/kunst.php

http://www.vvvs-hertogenbosch.nl/vvvdb/engels.html

http://www.fictionwise.com/knight/boschsix.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calydonian_Boar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis

Both swan and boar are forbidden food to Jews, but in this picture both are marked with a crescent, the sign of heresy. (Although the crescent symbol properly belonged to the Moors, the Middle Ages did not make fine distinctions among Jews, Moors, heretics and sodomites.) The only way to make sense of this is to assume that almost all the guests are honorary Christians, although they are Jews in the Bible story. The exceptions are those who are marked out in some way, like the man in the lower right corner, who is wearing a Jewish hat. He also appears to be holding his left hand behind him, a sign of duplicity—the typical attitude of Judas in paintings of the Last Supper. The swan is an emblem of loose living as well as paganism—Bosch puts a swan flag on his bucolic whorehouses—and yet swans were eaten at a ceremonial dinner once a year by the Dear Woman Brotherhood, to which Bosch belonged. The swan, in fact, is a symbol of the Virgin inherited from Aphrodite, and the boar in this picture has a halo. (Both platters are gilt, but that is not usually apparent in reproductions.)

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