Vance Was Against Pardons

What was Vances mindset around 911?

JP

:Norris saw the SUV pulling a U-turn before speeding up behind her. She recounts that the SUV’s driver began swerving erratically, laying on the horn and attempting to pass a Chevrolet Suburban that was in between them on the narrow two-lane road.

When the driver of the Chevy pulled over, Norris said the white Ford SUV accelerated and rammed into her rear bumper. She said the SUV rammed her a second time and then a third, all while the vehicles continued to roll down the road.

After Norris dialed 911, an emergency dispatcher advised her to pull over to the shoulder and stop. As she waited for help, Babbitt got out of her vehicle and came up to Norris’ driver’s-side window, banging on the glass.”


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Vance: People who committed violence on Jan 6 ‘obviously’ shouldn’t be pardoned

But the vice president-elect supported those who he said had been unjustly imprisoned.

Vice President-elect J.D. Vance walks in the U.S. Capitol.

“We’re very much committed to seeing the equal administration of law,” said Vice President-elect JD Vance. | Angelina Katsanis/POLITICO

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Vice President-elect JD Vance said that people who committed violence on Jan. 6 “obviously” should not be pardoned, in an interview with “Fox News Sunday” that covered a range of issues a week before inauguration.

“I think it’s very simple, look if you protested peacefully on January 6th, and you had Merrick Garland’s Department of Justice treat you like a gang member, you should be pardoned,” Vance said in an interview with host Shannon Bream. “If you committed violence on that day, obviously you shouldn’t be pardoned. And there’s a little bit of a gray area there.”

He added, “But we’re very much committed to seeing the equal administration of law, and there are a lot of people we think in the wake of January 6th who were prosecuted unfairly. We need to rectify that.”

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Vance, who will be sworn in as vice president on Jan. 20, discussed issues like the economy and immigration, and what to expect from President-elect Donald Trump in the first few days.

Vance said to expect “dozens” of executive orders from Trump on day one in regards to closing the border. He pushed back on the idea that mass deportations would lead to family separation and terrible conditions.

“They’re going to say that this is all about compassion for families. It is not compassion to allow the drug cartels to traffic small children. It is not compassionate to allow the worst people in the world to send minor children, some of them victims of sex trafficking, into our country,” Vance said. “That is the real humanitarian crisis at the border. You’re not going to exacerbate it through law enforcement.”

He added, “Most Americans want common-sense border enforcement. We can’t buy into this lie that law enforcement at the American southern border is somehow not compassionate to families who want to cross illegally.”

In regards to Trump’s recent comments on acquiring Greenland from Denmark, Vance backed up the president-elect, noting that Greenland “has a lot of great natural resources” and “the people of Greenland want to be empowered to develop the resources there.” When asked about whether military force would be used, Vance noted that there are already U.S. troops in Greenland so military force would not be necessary.

“There actually is a real opportunity here for us to take leadership to protect America’s security, to ensure that those incredible natural resources are developed,” Vance said. “And that’s what Donald Trump is good at. He’s good at making deals, and I think there’s a deal to be made in Greenland.”

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Vance also addressed the current wildfire situation in California, noting that Trump “would love to visit California” when asked about Gov. Gavin Newsom’s request for Trump to visit and not be divisive at this moment.

Vance did not say whether Trump might withhold aid from California, something Trump has toyed with in the past, but instead said Trump cares for all Americans and that he wants FEMA to be much more “clued in” on what’s happening on the ground. He also added that the federal government needs to do a better job but that doesn’t mean they should not criticize Newsom’s policies.

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“There is a serious lack of competent governance in California. And I think it’s part of the reason why these fires have gotten so bad,” Vance said. “We need to do a better job at both the state and federal level.”

Shortly after the interview aired Sunday morning, Vance defended his statements on Jan. 6. Users on X had criticized Vance for not fully supporting pardons for everyone who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6.

“I assure you, we care about people unjustly locked up,” Vance said in a post on X, noting he donated to the Jan. 6 political prisoner fund. “Yes, that includes people provoked and it includes people who got a garbage trial.”

Vance Invites Americans To Riot – Not Vote!

I just coined the word LAWPOKE. The Republican B-Ranch of Propaganda have been grooming Kristi Noam to be the archetypal White America under attack by vicious Brown Folk. B-Folk!

The crashed SUV after an ICE agent shot the driver at point-blank range through the window on Wednesday, Jan. 7, 2026. The driver died, according to the Department of Homeland Security. (Photo by Nicole Neri/Minnesota Reformer)

 The crashed SUV after an ICE agent shot the driver at point-blank range through the window on Wednesday, Jan. 7, 2026. The driver died, according to the Department of Homeland Security. (Photo by Nicole Neri/Minnesota Reformer)

U.S. Capitol police officers point their guns at a door that was vandalized in the House Chamber during a joint session of Congress on January 06, 2021 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

 U.S. Capitol police officers point their guns at a door that was vandalized in the House Chamber during a joint session of Congress on January 06, 2021 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

WASHINGTON — A mob derailed the typically routine process of Congress certifying the presidential election results on Wednesday, with both chambers abruptly recessing after President Donald Trump’s supporters clashed with police and forced their way into the U.S. Capitol.

VP Vance suggested Left-wing Lunatics who advocate violence, should try voting to het their way. His words, and that of Trump and his LAWPOKES have shut down THE LAW as a recourse, and pray down on their knees that THE PEOPLE resort to violence and rioting, so they don’t lose the House and Senate in a year.

Vance said  Renee Nicole Good, was part of a conspiracy of Left-wing terrorists, who hate the reelection of Trump who is doing the will of the American People, in deporting a million illegal aliens. Vance said THE PRESS is in on this plot, and, people are being – PAID! Vance said these PAID agitators should TRY VOTING instead of engaging in Anti-American Lunacy.

What Vance conducted was a Good ‘Ol Redneck Trial. where a bunk of fake Bootleggers conducting a Witch Trial in the backwoods where gun loving, Bible thumping He-men know God’s Ways – are the best ways. And, there is not going to be an investigation – or trial! Case Closed!

In my last post I describe the horrific SLAUGHTER of Puppy, who died because the Mafia WAS LOSING IT’S COURTCASE. I HAD A TERRIFIC YOUNG LAWYER who wiped their ass in a Court of Law – fifty feet from where John Kennedy lived when he ran for President.

To see the heads of the U.S. Government do what the Mafia did to Puppy, and make political hay with the SLAUGHTER of a unarmed woman – is the very evil bottom of the demise of our Democracy. For the head of Homeland Security to put on a huge cowboy hat, is reminiscent of the cowboy hats George W, Bush wore – as he invented lies that caused our troops to die in Iraq – and now Venezuela?

When I posted on the murder of Renee Nicole Good, I was going to include the killing of Ashli Babbit that Right-wing Lunatics call an act of murder by a police officer.

I just discovered the maiden name of America’s first LAWPOKE is

Kristi Lynn Arnold

WTF?

The officer who was quick on the draw, was dragged fifty feet by a car awhile back, and had thirty stiches to close the wound. Why in God’s name would he step in front of a running car – ever again! Surely his boss at the station gave him hell. What if – this was staged? Did the last attack by auto get allot attention? Why didn’t this Lawpoke – jump out of the way? It’s like he was playing Matador. Did he want to get

GRAZED?

He points his weapon at  Renee Nicole Good‘s head that is three feet away from the muzzle of his SHOOTER – and fires two shots. No other officer pulls their weapon. Why? Did they know the DESIGNATED SHOOTER was on the scene> How many millions of Americans think this was a GOOD SHOT?

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 Renee Nicole Good,

Ashli Babbitt, Jan. 6 insurrectionist portrayed as martyr by some, had violent past

Nation Jan 3, 2022 11:07 AM EST

WASHINGTON (AP) — The first time Celeste Norris laid eyes on Ashli Babbitt, the future insurrectionist had just rammed her vehicle three times with an SUV and was pounding on the window, challenging her to a fight.

Norris says the bad blood between them began in 2015, when Babbitt engaged in a monthslong extramarital affair with Norris’ longtime live-in boyfriend. When she learned of the relationship, Norris called Babbitt’s husband and told him she was cheating.

“She pulls up yelling and screaming,” Norris said in an exclusive interview with The Associated Press, recounting the July 29, 2016, road-rage incident in Prince Frederick, Maryland. “It took me a good 30 seconds to figure out who she was. … Just all sorts of expletives, telling me to get out of the car, that she was going to beat my ass.”

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Babbitt was later charged with numerous misdemeanors.

The attack on Norris is an example of erratic and sometimes threatening behavior by Babbitt, who was shot by a police officer while at the vanguard of the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol. Former President Donald Trump and his supporters have sought to portray her as a righteous martyr who was unjustly killed. The officer who shot her was cleared of any wrongdoing by two federal investigations.

But the life of the Air Force veteran from California who died while wearing a Trump campaign flag wrapped around her shoulders like a cape, was far more complicated than the heroic portrait presented by Trump and his allies.

In the months before her death, Babbitt had become consumed by pro-Trump conspiracy theories and posted angry screeds on social media. She also had a history of making violent threats.

Babbitt, 35, was fatally shot while attempting to climb through the broken window of a barricaded door leading to the Speaker’s Lobby inside the Capitol, where police officers were evacuating members of Congress from the mob supporting Trump’s false claim that the 2020 presidential election was stolen.

Her husband, Aaron, declined to comment in October when a reporter knocked on the door of the San Diego apartment he shared with Ashli and another woman. In a June interview with Tucker Carlson of Fox News, Babbitt said he has been sickened by some of what he has seen written about his deceased wife.

“There’s never been a person who Ashli ran across in her daily life that didn’t love her,” said Babbitt, 40.

That is not how Norris viewed her.

Court records involving the 2016 violent confrontation between Babbitt and Norris have previously been reported by media outlets, including the AP. But Norris, now 39, agreed to speak about it publicly for the first time in an interview with the AP and shared previously unreported details. She also provided documents and photos from the crash scene to support her account.

Norris was in a six-year relationship with Aaron Babbitt when she said she learned he was cheating on her with a married co-worker from his job as a security guard at a nuclear power plant near the Chesapeake Bay. She eventually found out the other woman was Ashli McEntee, who at the time went by the last name of her then-husband.

Norris said she tried for a few months to salvage her relationship with Aaron Babbitt before finally deciding to move out of their house. Within days, Norris said, Ashli moved in.

A few weeks later, Norris was waiting at a stop sign in Prince Frederick, about an hour southeast of Washington, D.C., when she says a white Ford Explorer passed her going the other direction.

Norris saw the SUV pulling a U-turn before speeding up behind her. She recounts that the SUV’s driver began swerving erratically, laying on the horn and attempting to pass a Chevrolet Suburban that was in between them on the narrow two-lane road.

When the driver of the Chevy pulled over, Norris said the white Ford SUV accelerated and rammed into her rear bumper. She said the SUV rammed her a second time and then a third, all while the vehicles continued to roll down the road.

After Norris dialed 911, an emergency dispatcher advised her to pull over to the shoulder and stop. As she waited for help, Babbitt got out of her vehicle and came up to Norris’ driver’s-side window, banging on the glass.

A case report from the Calvert County Sheriff’s Office obtained by the AP shows Ashli Babbitt was issued a criminal summons on charges of reckless endangerment, a misdemeanor punishable by up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine. She was also charged with malicious destruction of property for the damage to Norris’ vehicle.

Court records show those charges were later updated to include traffic offenses — reckless driving, negligent driving and failure to control a vehicle’s speed to avoid a collision.

Photos from the scene provided to the AP by Norris show Babbitt’s white Ford Explorer with its front bumper smashed in. The SUV’s grill is also pushed in and the hood dented. The rear bumper of Norris’ Escape is pushed in on the passenger side, with the detached Maryland license plate from the front bumper of Babbitt’s SUV wedged into it.

Norris later got a judicial order that barred Ashli Babbitt from attempting to contact Norris, committing further acts of violence against her and going to her home or workplace.

In the weeks after the incident, Norris said Babbitt falsely claimed to authorities that the collisions had occurred when Norris repeatedly backed her vehicle into Babbitt’s SUV. But when the case went to trial, Norris said, Babbitt changed her story, admitting under oath that she had collided with Norris’ vehicle but portraying it as an accident.

No transcript from the hearing was available, but Norris said the lawyer defending Babbitt made repeated references to her employment at the local nuclear power plant and years of military service, which included deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. A judge acquitted Babbitt on the criminal charges.

In February 2017, records show Norris asked for and received a second peace order against Ashli Babbitt, citing ongoing harassment and stalking.

“I lived in fear because I didn’t know what she was capable of,” Norris told the AP. “I was constantly looking over my shoulder.”

In 2019, Norris filed a personal injury lawsuit against Ashli Babbitt, seeking $74,500 in damages, and she said she settled out of court with Babbitt’s insurance carrier for an undisclosed sum.

By then, Aaron and Ashli had moved to California, where she grew up and still had family.

Associated Press writer Elliot Spagat in San Diego contributed to this report.

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