Here is an excellent article on Early Germans in California, saying German-Jews associated with being German more than being Jewish and took part in the Turnverein Clubs – and were welcome there! Carl Janke had to be aware of the Jewish presence. With Kamala Harris running for President, and possibly being our next President, I am going to continue to promote the role that the Turnverein Germans, and the Turnverein Jews, played in creating a Progressive Liberal State, with emphasis on PRACTICING the fine ideals of an advanced culture, verses the NEED for a Strong-man destructive dictator promising a return to the The Lost Past -full of religious fervor for the Fallen Sky Gods – who did not install Democracy in Israel, or the United States, and then – not owning enough Sky-power to make General Lee victorious over the Union, and the Loyal Union Soldier. Lee – LOST! Lee – is a LOSER! I did not draw this new murderous line in the sand!
To anoint Vance as the General Inquisitor of the New Confederate Ministry of Righteousness, where there are born amongst Democrats, Demons hell-bent on murdering the unborn, is one of the Greatest Religious Frauds since Jesus allegedly stopped Paul from murdering more JEWISH members of the original First Church – that refused to believe Jesus was talking through Paul, and only Paul – thereafter! Does that sound like Jesus helped Paul create a Democracy in the world? Wake up!
Consider the Reformation and the Forty-Eighters who lost the war with the Papal Army, and fled to America, where thousand of Loyal Germans – loyal to a Progressive Germany – fought in Union uniforms to defeat the Confederate Traitors – and FREE tens of thousands of slaves in the Red States where today free whites put on The Red Hat of the Ranting Primal Urge, and feel his aching need to rule everything, and destroy everything that shows good breeding. The love for the Arts, for Music, for Philosophy, and Modern Literature, has been declared the enemy of Jesus-Vance, the new Confederate Serial Killer, aching to take it on the road…..to Damascus!
Down with the Chiffon Jesus who has come for His slaves, has come to take away the earned right for women to vote, because He did not WANT woman to vote! If the Holy White Chiffon Savior wanted women to be able to vote, and wanted slaves to be set free, then he would have sprinkled Holy Twinkle Dust on our Founding Fathers!
SHOW ME YOUR TWINKLE DUST!
Wake up! There are but a handful of Jews in Israel who believe in the Chiffon Jesus. I believe there were a handful of Jews who believed The Road to Zion, ran through California – where most found a veritable Paradise – with the help of Gentile Germans. How many Jews walked past the Stuttmeister monument in Berlin, speaking their Native Language with total Liberty, until a insane narcissist who rendered city landscapes with no citizens walking the streets, because he wanted it all for himself. No doorway framed a young Jewish girl, waiting for her beau. No sprig of Rosemary, to keep the evil spirits at bay. Never again…..is the promise – this very day! For all!
EXTRA! After publishing this post I turned on T.V. and saw Kamala Harris honoring young athletes who were the stars of the Turnverein Movement. How prophetic!
I then had a vision of a sculptor working on a ten foot high marble Ten Commandments that will be pulled down Pennsylvania by the Jan. 6th Insurrectionists dressed in silver-white jumpsuits, and glowing red caps. A ramp will be built up the Capitol steps. Then come the Innocents Ones carrying crosses, with blooded bandages on their ear. They will stand with their cross around the Commandments in statuary hall. Then the Emperor of the American Commandments will come into the Divine Circle of Total Forgiveness, and light the Eternal Flame of Gods Holy Judgment.
“This is all I wanted! This is all – we wanted! Was it asking too much?
Lifting his hand to his bandaged ear, Trump let’s out a cry, and falls in a heap before
When news of the California Gold Rush made its way east, Levi journeyed to San Francisco in 1853 to make his fortune, though he wouldn’t make it panning gold. He established a wholesale dry goods business under his own name and served as the West Coast representative of the family’s New York firm. Levi eventually renamed his company “Levi Strauss & Co.”
Webmaster’s note: in German, Turnverein is a single word, and it means Gymnastics Club.
Per the Oregon History Project website under Ethnic Diversity in the City“Though Portland was described by journalists as a city dominated by native-born Americans, its ethnic diversity reflected that of most frontier cities. The proportion of foreign-born was less than in San Francisco, but by 1890, 59 percent of the population was either foreign-born or had at least one foreign-born parent. After 1890, Oregon’s foreign-born increasingly concentrated in Portland, which became far more segmented by class and ethnic districts.
The Germans were the largest foreign-language ethnic group, with a conspicuous social presence at the Turnverein Hall at First and Ash, and the Arion Society, the local branch of a national singing club dedicated to bringing German classical music to America. The officers of the Turnverein in 1874 were working men, including barber A. Staender, bookkeeper Peter Wagner, as well as a saloon keeper and a porter. The officers of the Arion Society in 1889 included the foreman of a harness shop, the owner of a machine shop, a printer at the Freie Presse, and a police captain. The German Aid Society drew men of more means, including several German Jewish merchants as trustees. Through the 1880s, Germans from the first ward elected small businessmen to represent them on the city council.”
N.E. corner of 4th and Yamhill. Also known as “Turn Hall” or the “Scandinavian Socialists Hall”, this was the site of a pioneering lecture on homosexuality. In August 1915, Emma Goldman was on her West Coast tour of the United States talking about birth control, socialism, Russian drama, Frederick Nietzsche, and included a lecture entitled, “The Intermediate Sex.” This was a contemporary term for homosexuals popularized by her contemporary and friend Edward Carpenter, who had published a book by the same name a few years earlier. Incredibly, the Oregonian published advertising of the event, and also covered in detail the controversy surrounding her arrest in Portland during the same lecture tour on charges of distributing “obscene” birth control literature.
13th/SW Jefferson
Emma Goldman’s series of lectures given in Portland, Oregon, are advertised on a handbill published August 1, 1915. Courtesy of the Emma Goldman Papers.
Oregon Journal January 11, 1936, page 12
Research by GLAPN has discovered that one woman in particular, Mrs. Josephine Devore Johnson (wife of the prominent City Attorney for Oregon City, William Carey Johnson) instigated the City’s attempt to shut down Goldman’s soapbox. In a letter in William Warren, Secretary to Portland’s Mayor Albee, Johnson wrote: “Please present to the Mayor, the protest of myself and others against permitting Emma Goldman the anarchist from continuing her propaganda of atheism, anarchy and free love in this city to the extent and manner that she has planned…
Jew: “Sure we can fish. And we can walk on water!”
Woman Rabbi; “Yes we can catch! And walk out to the deep water to take our limit!”
“I now rename Belmont….BELABAMA!”
The biggest and most crucial question – IN ALL THE WORLD – is if Kamala Harris is going to be re-elected VP, or will she be our next President – or will she – BE A BIG LOSER?
Four years ago I made an extremely prophetic post during Black History Month! What are the odds ? My words are in our National Archive because I sent them in a long letter to Kamala. I mention the name DENNY LAWHERN, who may have been bitter his name is not on the many Memorial Twin Pines Plaques paying tribute to the late Mayor, Eric Reed. Is Eric in our National Archives? I am!
‘Paul was called to take the gospel of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles after his conversion on the road to Damascus (Acts 9).”
With the repeal of Affirmative Action and the promotion of Race Neutrality by the Supreme Court, as President of the United States I will work hard to take away the false belief that Christians as a whole are being persecuted like Jesus was persecuted – by Jews – or by any other group of people! There is strong evidence many Jews saw Jesus as THEIR KING, and not as THEIR MESSIAH. How many Jews saw Jesus as THEIR GOD IN DISGUISE, is the question.
When I read the Bible for the first time, in 1987, when I was forty, I found it impossible to believe GOD would forgive Saul-Paul, and make him the head of GOD’S MISSIONARY WORK AMONGST THE GENTILES.. To accept this as the truth, is to accept the idea THE GOD OF THE JEWS, no longer sees the Jews as His Chosen Children, and is intent on having THE JEWS REJECT GOD, so Gentiles will be THE NEW CHILDREN OF GOD! What is the damn difference I asked? I became a BIG DOUBTER. I could not buy Paul. I was not alone. It looks like the origial disciples. and other KEY JEWS ,did not buy what Paul was selling – and this is when he MURDERED THE DOUBTERS – OF PAUL!?
,”Paul persecuted Jews who thought Jesus was the Messiah, his “conversion” at least represents a reversal of that opinion.
We know Jews murdered Jews in the Civil War of Kings. The Kings of Judah waged war with the Kings of Israel. Englishmen murdered Englishmen in the English Civil Wars, that were religious in nature. Not one of the warring Jewish Kings announced they – ARE GOD! This might be seen as – BLASPHEMOUS – and thus the usurper of God would deserve to be put to death. The God of the Jews – would want this! Why wouldn’t the God of the Gentiles – want this? There can only be ONE JUDAIC-LIKE GOD!
Twelve hours after I sit in the Oval Office, I will compose and send a letter to every Senator and Congressman, with these words…
“Your President demands you answer this question…DO YOU BELIEVE JESUS IS GOD? I want your answer on my desk in the next twenty-four hours. I need to direct questions to the Supreme Court, and Clarence Thomas in particular, about the real possibility Christians will never see themselves as equal to non-Christians, because they secretly believe Jesus is God, and millions of Americans are persecuting The One God, and thus are…..The Lowest of the Low!
We can not live in a Democratic Society where half the people are not in touch with Common Reality, and are going to vote for INVSIIBLE BELIEFS. This idea Jesus is God, is also problomatic to Orthodox Jews, and secular Jews, who are seen as Murders of Kings, Messiahs, and the One God! How can we have – TRUE EQUALITY – when normal human children are consider Co-Murderers of God – until they repent as adults? Consider the murderous anti-Semitic hatred of the Jews by Martin Luther who depicts non-Jews as victims of Jews, simply because they did not buy the teaching of Saul-Paul – A SERIAL KILLER!
8 Saul agreed that the killing of Stephen was good.
Troubles for the Believers
On that day the church of Jerusalem began to be persecuted, and all the believers, except the apostles, were scattered throughout Judea and Samaria.
2 And some religious people buried Stephen and cried loudly for him. 3 Saul was also trying to destroy the church, going from house to house, dragging out men and women and putting them in jail. 4 And wherever they were scattered, they told people the Good News.
Paul was called to take the gospel of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles after his conversion on the road to Damascus (Acts 9). Before this he was a hater and killer of Christians. In Acts 22:20–21 he wrote “And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him. And he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles.” So as you can imagine his portrayal of Jesus in the Epistles (letters) that he wrote is quite personal. As a matter of fact, Paul describes Jesus differently in every letter (with the exception of Philemon which was a personal letter of appeal to a slave owner). Take a look at Paul’s portrayal of Jesus in the epistles and key verses below. My list includes passages from Hebrews because though it is somewhat unknown I believe Paul wrote this letter.
Jesus the Peacemaker
Romans 5:1–2 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
“Though Justice Jackson seems to think that her race-based theory can somehow benefit everyone, it is an immutable fact that ‘every time the government uses racial criteria to ‘bring the races together,’ someone gets excluded, and the person excluded suffers an injury solely because of his or her race,’” Thomas wrote.
“Justice Jackson seems to have no response—no explanation at all—for the people who will shoulder that burden. How, for example, would Justice Jackson explain the need for race-based preferences to the Chinese student who has worked hard his whole life, only to be denied college admission in part because of his skin color?” Thomas questioned.
“With the passage of the Fourteenth Amendment, the people of our Nation proclaimed that the law may not sort citizens based on race. It is this principle that the Framers of the Fourteenth Amendment adopted in the wake of the Civil War to fulfill the promise of equality under the law,” Thomas wrote.
And it is this principle that has guaranteed a Nation of equal citizens the privileges or immunities of citizenship and the equal protection of the laws. To now dismiss it as ‘two-dimensional flatness,’ is to abdicate a sacred trust to ensure that our ‘honored dead . . . shall not have died in vain,’ Thomas said, quoting Justice Jackson and a portion from President Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address.
“Yet, Justice Jackson would replace the second Founders’ vision with an organizing principle based on race. In fact, on her view, almost all of life’s outcomes may be unhesitatingly ascribed to race,” he continued.
Ekhard Schnabel asks this question in Paul the Missionary (44, cf. Early Christian Mission, 2:927-928). There are rally two questions here. First, what was the theological motive for Paul’s persecution? Second, what drove him to pursue Jesus’ followers to Damascus?
Some scholars have argued the Jewish Christians were admitting Gentiles without circumcision. This seems unlikely, since there is no reference at all to Gentile mission by the Jerusalem Church until Acts 10. God-fearers were accepted into the synagogue without circumcision, so it is unlikely this would be a problem for Paul, if it had occurred. Similarly, some argue Gentile believers were not concerned with food traditions. This too is unlikely for the same reasons as the first, there is no evidence of Gentile converts in the pre-Pauline period. These two issue are a problem only when a significant number of Gentiles were saved, and especially Gentiles who were not God-Fearers before accepting Jesus as Savior.
A more likely motivation is the possible political / social problems caused by the preaching of a crucified messiah / savior. How would this play before the Gentiles, especially the Romans? Could this be an accusation against Rome, and a possible rally-point for anti-Roman activity? The problem here once again is the lack of evidence for preaching anything to Gentile / Roman audiences. The early apostolic mission was confined to the temple area and the city of Jerusalem in general. Remember that the factors which will eventually result in the Jewish War are already in the air some thirty years earlier. Paul may have been concerned for sparking a revolution by teaching that Jesus is a resurrected King who will return and establish a kingdom.
It is probably best to see Saul opposing the Apostolic teaching as heretical. That Jesus was the Messiah was absurd, since he was crucified, “hung on a tree,” and therefore a curse, not salvation. In addition, Schnabel points out that any theology which saw Jesus as Savior is not compatible with the view that salvation comes through faith expressed in obedience to Torah. A simple example from the gospels will illustrate this point. When the rich you man asks Jesus what he must do to inherit eternal life, he understands this in terms of obedience to the foundation of the Law (ie., he keeps all the commandments). This is not to say Judaism was a “works for salvation” religion, but that one was right with God because God has given Torah and individuals come to God through the perfection of the Torah.
These early followers of Jesus claim that there is no other name by which a person can be saved (Acts 4:12). Stephen’s speech in Acts 7 concludes with a contrast between the Torah and Jesus. Saul’s motivation is to correct this false teaching within Judaism, using the synagogue punishment system itself. He likely sees himself as a reformer, working for the high priest, with the goal of dealing sharply with the followers of a condemned Rabbi.
Do we have a clue as to what Jewish followers of Jesus, after his crucifixion, believed or did not believe about him? People keep throwing around the word “Savior” or “Messiah” as if it meant what Paul meant by the words. Someone please cite for me where it says just what they believed and precisely why Saul was persecuting them. Really, because maybe it’s there but I don’t know where it is. The “history” provided in Acts was not composed until more than fifty years after Jesus died. Whether it is truly history or not is debated. Aside from the question of circumcision, what, I wonder, did the Jerusalem Council mean if and when they referred to Jesus as “Lord” or “Messiah” or “Savior”? There was no Pauline Christology in the early days. I won’t even say “the early days of the church” because there was no church in the beginning, just some sort of Jesus movement, I guess. The word “Christian” hadn’t been coined. When Jews said “Savior,” they meant God. When they said “Messiah,” they didn’t mean “savior.” Messiah does not mean savior. If they had been able to capitalize the word messiah, would they have and, if they would have, would it have been just because it was a title or because they believed there was something divine about Jesus? Did they believe so early on that he was the Son of God? No one even suggested he was God until at least 57-60 years after he was crucified (John). This is all quite muddled for me and I’d like some help sorting it out, but not with a flurry of doctrine and cliches.Loading…Reply
Phillip J. Long
I think a start at the answer is to read “Christ” as messiah, to read how Second Temple Judaism understood the idea of messiah. I think that Psalms of Solomon 17 provides one view (probably Pharisee), the Qumran material has a similar view, although there are differences. I am of the opinion that the fourth second of 1 Enoch does in fact date to the Second Temple period, but that cannot be proven since that is the one section not found at Qumran. While 2 Baruch and 4 Ezra post-date Paul by 40 years or so, I think they provide another flavor of messianism in the period. This is a daunting task, but there are some helpful summaries, I suggest John Collins, the Star and Scepter, recently re-printed by Eerdmans as a second edition.A second angle to explore is Pauline theology, as you suggest. There are reasonable arguments for Philippians as an authentic letter of Paul, written from Ephesus in the mid 50’s, 25 years after the events described by the later gospels. The Christ-Hymn in chapter 2 is widely accepted as a pre-exiting piece of tradition which has a very high Christology. Although we cannot know how early that tradition was, it does push a traditional high-Christology back into the first two decades at the very least. (I might also include Col 1 here, although that letter is often rejected because of the Christological hymn in chapter 1).Less certain would be the type of exegesis found in the speeches in Acts. If there is an authentic basis for the collation of texts by Peter in Acts 2-3 and Paul’s sermon in chapter 13, Psalm 2 seems to be a foundational text for proving that Jesus is the anointed one, God’s Messiah of Psalm 2. The language of Son of God clearly appears there, although it is not the same type of theological statement you find in the early Creeds.I like your statement: “no church in the beginning, just some sort of Jesus movement.” This is indeed the case, perhaps we could say, various struggles to figure out just exactly who / what Jesus claimed to be. He taught and did things which led at least some of his followers to think he was the Messiah, and more than that, that he was the God of Israel. But there were others who thought he was not even a messiah. Back to the topic of the original post, Paul persecuted Jews who thought Jesus was the Messiah, his “conversion” at least represents a reversal of that opinion.
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