Putting Israel, Jesus, and Trump – On Trial

I have learned—through comments, emails, and discussion forums—that a significant portion of his supporters literally believe the president was an answer to their prayers. He is regarded as something of a messiah, sent by God to protect a Christian nation.

“If we’ve got to hang a bunch of crooked congressmen, we’ll do that,” one protester said.

Representative Elise Stefanik, a New York Republican, is facing backlash across social media on Sunday after calling jailed January 6, 2021, Capitol rioters “hostages.”

Representative Stefanik claims Speaker Pelosi had a clue there was going to be violence at the Capitol – and did nothing to prevent the mob from taking elected officials HOSTAGE – which was their intent! They would be released if Biden and Harris left the White House – and handed Messiah Trump – the key! How many WINNERS thought they were going to be taken HOSTAGE by a rabid pack of LOSERS? How dare this lunatic question the Presidents of major Universities.

John Presco

WASHINGTON – Donald Trump as president could have ordered the military to kill his political rivals, sold military secrets to foreign adversaries or peddled pardons to criminals and still would be immune from prosecution for those crimes today unless he were first impeached and then convicted in a Senate trial, his lawyer told a federal appeals court Tuesday.

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“When they talk about the threat to democracy, that’s your real threat to democracy,” Trump said of the election interference case against him. “And I feel that as a president, you have to have immunity. Very simple. And if you don’t, as an example of this case, where loss of immunity, and I did nothing wrong, absolutely nothing wrong — I’m working for the country. And I worked very hard on voter fraud because we have to have free elections.”

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But there is another important reason why Trump loyalists do not waver no matter how he behaves or what scandals come to light. For most evangelicals, it is not only fear that keeps them in line, but it is also faith. As a cognitive psychology researcher who has been writing about the science underlying Trump’s support since he began his presidential campaign, I have learned—through comments, emails, and discussion forums—that a significant portion of his supporters literally believe the president was an answer to their prayers. He is regarded as something of a messiah, sent by God to protect a Christian nation.

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'We were trapped': Trauma of Jan. 6 lingers for lawmakers | AP News

Academic leaders from Harvard, University of Pennsylvania and MIT at a congressional hearing last month.Credit…Tom Brenner for The New York Times

 2021 United States Capitol attack. As the U.S. House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack began to investigate, Stefanik claimed that Speaker Nancy Pelosi was “aware of potential security threats to the Capitol and she failed to act.”[1] Stefanik was elected chair of the House Republican Conference in May 2021 after incumbent Liz Cheney was removed due to her opposition to President Trump.

Stefanik gained national attention in December 2023[2] for her intense questioning of university presidents during a widely televised U.S. congressional hearing on antisemitism,[3] which led to criticism and resignation of two of the presidents.[2][4]

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Representative Elise Stefanik, a New York Republican, is facing backlash across social media on Sunday after calling jailed January 6, 2021, Capitol rioters “hostages.”

Thousands of Donald Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol building on January 6 in an effort to stop the 2020 presidential election results from being certified in Joe Biden‘s favor. The then-president baselessly said that the election had been stolen from him via widespread fraud. More than 1,200 people have been charged with federal crimes in the riot, ranging from misdemeanors to felonies. About 730 people have pleaded guilty to charges, while about 170 have been convicted of at least one charge at a trial decided by a judge or a jury, according to the Associated Press.

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American Maggie, a platform to promote the views of “conservative and Republican women“, named after British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.[13]

During a 2023 hearing on antisemitism of the House Education and Workforce Committee, Stefanik asked the presidents of Harvard, MIT, and the University of Pennsylvania, who had been invited to speak, whether “calling for the genocide of Jewish people” constituted bullying or harassment on their campuses. Their responses drew criticism from the public and from a group of Representatives who signed an open letter calling for all three to resign.[68] UPenn president Liz Magill, who was already facing pressure from within the university, resigned the following week. Following the announcement of Magill’s resignation, Stefanik tweeted “One down. Two to go.”[69][3] During the hearing, when the MIT president denied hearing any calls for genocide, Stefanik claimed that chants of “Intifada” (Arabic) are often considered as a “call for the genocide” by the Jewish people.[70] In contrast, faculty and alumni at Harvard supported president Claudine Gay, calling the attacks on her “specious and politically motivated”.[71]

Following the congressional hearing, the House committee said it would launch an investigation into the learning environments and disciplinary policies at Harvard, Penn, and MIT over alleged antisemitism on their campuses.[72][73] The hearing was portrayed in the cold open of the December 9 episode of Saturday Night Live, with Chloe Troast playing Stefanik.[74][a] The skit was criticized by conservatives and Jewish groups like the ADL for being complacent with anti-Semitism.[77][78]

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Elise Stefanik Refuses to Commit to Certify 2024 Results, Calls January 6 Prisoners “Hostages”

The New York representative was elected to her House GOP post for her willingness to parrot Donald Trump, and she’s not stopping now.

BY JACK MCCORDICK

JANUARY 7, 2024

Representative Elise Stefanik of New York

Dozens of rabbis occupied the balcony inside the United Nations Security Council Chambers, calling for a ceasefire, on January 9, 2024 in New York [Courtesy of Gili Getz]© Provided by Al Jazeera

On January 9, 36 rabbis and rabbinical students from Rabbis for Ceasefire took our prayers and outrage at Israel’s ongoing violence in Gaza to the United Nations headquarters in New York City.

This is the moment the UN was created for. In the wake of the horrors of World War II, the nations of the world came together to charter a new institution that promised “to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war” and “to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person”.

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By Alex Miller – The Washington Times – Saturday, January 6, 2024

A newly released video shot by a Capitol protester shows a confrontation between a pair of Republican congressmen and a frenzy of people trying to break onto the House floor.

The video, first obtained by NBC News through a records request, was captured by Damon Beckley, who is awaiting sentencing for charges stemming from his participation in the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

The video was introduced as evidence ahead of Mr. Beckley’s Feb. 9 sentencing hearing. Federal prosecutors are seeking more than three years in federal prison for him.



His video depicts protesters huddled against a door that leads onto the House floor, peering through broken glass and torn paper plastered on the doors. Gun barrels drawn by Capitol police officers stare at them.

The video also shows Rep. Troy Nehls, Texas Republican, and then-Rep. Markwayne Mullin, Oklahoma Republican, speaking to the crowd through the broken glass.

“You ought to be ashamed of yourself,” Mr. Nehls said.

He continued, “I’ve been in law enforcement in Texas for 30 years, and I’ve never had people act this way. I’m ashamed.”

Members of the crowd pressed against the door could be heard saying “they can only kill so many of us” and that there would be a “bigger Civil War and a lot of bloodshed” if the 2020 results were not overturned after what they saw as a rigged election.

“If we’ve got to hang a bunch of crooked congressmen, we’ll do that,” one protester said.

Mr. Nehls has publicly condemned the demonstrators who stormed the U.S. Capitol, calling their actions “criminal.” However, he and Mr. Mullin, who has since been elected to the Senate, were among the 147 lawmakers in Congress who voted against certifying the 2020 election. 

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Putting Paul And Jesus On Trial

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In this painting by Russian artist Vasily Surikov dated to 1875, the Apostle Paul speaks before King Agrippa II, his sister Julia Berenice, and the proconsul Festus

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“Then I went to Jerusalem and to every part of Judea and told the people there. I also went to the non-Jewish people.

 “This is why the Jews grabbed me and were trying to kill me at the Temple.”

Paul of Tarsus

I am in profoundly unique position to CALL FOR THE TRAIL OF PAUL AND JESUS. I am steeped in Biblical knowledge, and I ran for Republican Governor of Oregon. I was also a write-in for Republican Candidate for President of the United States. I am kin to John Fremont the first Republican candidate for President, and co-founder of the Republican Party that appears to have been taken over by ‘Jesus Freaks’ – many who deny President Biden – WON!

Political Realities are being SEVERELY IGNORED, and replaced by what can be titled ‘Biblical Prophecy’. There is talk of Donald Trump going on trial. Millions of Christians are calling for the ex-President to SEIZE the reigns of power – and run in 2024. This time they know they GOT IT RIGHT and will not be calling for the release of the prisoner BARABBAS who means “Son of The Father” and “Son of The Rabbi”. Was Jesus’ father a rabbi? Was not Jesus called the Son of God The Father? Did not radical, but saintly Jews begin a TAX REBELLION that the powers in Rome wanted – CRUSHED? Did Pilate and his soldiers go to war with these Rebels? Did he crucify those rebels he captured? Were some of them – WOMEN?

When I saw the video and pics of The Trumpites storming Our Capitol, I thought of the painting of the destruction of the temple by Francesco Hayez. Timing is everything. I knew MY TIME HAD COME as a Nazarite Prophet. When I read the Bible for the first time at forty years of age, I was shocked when I read about Paul, and his alleged trial before Agrippa, his sister, and Festus. Paul says he murdered and tortured Jews – EVEN WOMEN – and got permission to hunt them down in foreign lands – FROM THE PRIESTHOOD – who did not want hint him to spread the teaching of Jesus outside of Jerusalem? Well, they did not want Jesus to spread his teaching – IN JERUSALEM! Surely the King and Queen of Jerusalem has a say so. They want to find Paul guilty of SOMETHING, but are afraid to, because Paul is threatening to talk to the Emperor of Rome – who might like Paul a whole lot – because it looks like he is hell bent on destroying the leaders and followers of…..A TAX REBELLION THAT IS SPREADING TROUGH THE ROMAN EMPIRE!

Was there a crowd outside the palace while Paul was being found NOT GUILTY of going into synagogues and arresting people he later put to death? Would Christians forgive gay people for going inside Churches and arresting people? How many Christian Ministers – forgive LGBTQ people? Was this crowd very angry, and were they shouting…

“GIVE US THE SON OF RABBI………..SO WE CAN HANG HIM FOR BETRAYING GOD1”

Was Paul THE SON of a famous Rabbi, who preached pro-Roman sermons? Is there anyone like this? YES. Didn’t Paul say he studied under Gamaliel? Which one, the one that bathed in a Roman bath house – with statue of Aphrodite? If so, why would Paul be arrested for giving a teaching to non-Jews” I will invite Jewish rabbis and scholars to take part in ‘The Trial of Paul and Jesus’.

John Presco ‘Nazarite Judge’

Rabban Gamaliel | My Jewish Learning

Gamaliel – Wikipedia

In the Christian tradition, Gamaliel is recognized as a Pharisee doctor of Jewish Law.[2]Acts of the Apostles, 5 speaks of Gamaliel as a man held in great esteem by all Jews and as the Jewish law teacher of Paul the Apostle in Acts 22:3.[5] Gamaliel encouraged his fellow Pharisees to show leniency to the apostles of Jesus Christ in Acts 5:34.[6]

“I used to think that I should do everything I could against Jesus from Nazareth10 And that’s what I did, beginning in Jerusalem. The leading priests gave me the authority to put many of God’s people in jail. And when they were being killed, I agreed that it was a good thing. 11 I visited all the synagogues and punished them, trying to make them curse[a] Jesus. My anger against these people was so strong that I went to other cities to find them and punish them.

30 King Agrippa, Governor Festus, Bernice, and all the people sitting with them stood up 31 and left the room. They were talking to each other. They said, “This man has done nothing worthy of being put to death or even put in jail.” 32 And Agrippa said to Festus, “We could let him go free, but he has asked to see Caesar.”

Then I went to Jerusalem and to every part of Judea and told the people there. I also went to the non-Jewish people.

 “This is why the Jews grabbed me and were trying to kill me at the Temple.

Echoes are also to be found of the close relationship between the princes and the Romans. It is said, for instance, that many young men of the house of Rabban Gamaliel studied “Greek wisdom” (Sotah49b), a statement that was much discussed in the medieval debates on the study of philosophy. Gamaliel is also said to have bathed in a bath-house in which there was a statue of Aphrodite (Mishnah AvodahZarah3:4), which practice he defended on the grounds that the statue was purely decorative and in no way dedicated to the goddess.

Rabbi Joshua, who lived in the first to second centuries CE, was one of the most distinguished of the early Rabbinic teachers known as the Tannaim. Rabbi Joshua was a disciple of Rabban Johanan ben Zakkai and a colleague of Rabbi Eliezer; the debates between these two teachers are found throughout the Talmud.

Rabbi Joshua appears to have had a somewhat conciliatory attitude towards the Romans after the destruction of the Temple in 70 CE. In a famous parable attributed to him, a fox put his head into a lion’s mouth in order to remove a bone that had lodged in the lion’s teeth and was troubling the lion. When the fox demanded a reward for his pains, the lion replied that for a creature to have its head in a lion’s mouth and yet remain unscathed was in itself sufficient reward.

When some zealots wished to give expression to their mourning over the destruction of the Temple by abstaining from wine and from marriage, Rabbi Joshua is said to have advocated less severe tokens of mourning, since one does not impose on the community regulations impossible for the majority to follow (Bava Batra 60b).

On a number of occasions Rabban Gamaliel is said to have behaved in an autocratic manner towards Rabbi Joshua, as a result of which Rabban Gamaliel was deposed for a time from his position as Nasi and head of the Sanhedrin.

As tensions built toward war, Agrippa attempted to convince his fellow Jews not to revolt. In the end, he and his sister Berenice were expelled from Jerusalem and sided with Rome, fighting alongside Vespasian and Titus to put down the rebellion. For his loyal service during this crisis, he was rewarded with the title of praetor. After the revolt ended, he lived as a private citizen in Rome. The date of his death is uncertain, probably around 93-94 in Rome.


Agrippa II – New World Encyclopedia

Around 59, Agrippa and Berenice heard the case of the Apostle Paul at Caesarea Maritima, where the current Roman procurator, Porcius Festus, had attempted to induce Paul to return to Jerusalem for trial, but Paul insisted on his rights as a Roman citizen to be heard in Caesar’s court. The scene is recorded in considerable detail in Acts 25-26. Paul appeals to Agrippa as being well acquainted with Jewish affairs. Paul explains that he is of the party of the Pharisees and a believer in the resurrection of the dead, which his accusers, the Sadducees, deny. Paul goes on to testify to Agrippa about his conversion experience and his belief that Jesus, the Messiah, fulfilled the prophetic doctrine of the resurrection. Agrippa’s famous response in Acts 26:28 is a subject of much debate, translated in the King James Version as, “Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.” Modern renditions translate the same passage as “Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?” (NIV) More clear is Agrippa’s comment to Festus after Paul leaves, indicating that the apostle had made a serious tactical error by appealing to Rome: “This man could have been set free if he had not appealed to Caesar.” The point seems to be that Agrippa agreed with Festus that Paul had done nothing worthy of death and would have exonerated Paul if it had been left up to him. Paul went on to Rome where he was martyred.

In an attempt to prevent violence from further escalating, Agrippa assembled the populace and delivered a tearful speech to the crowd with Berenice by his side. In an oration preserved by Josephus, he employed substantial eloquence to warn the inflamed leaders against extremes, and counseled a return to calmness and deliberation (Josephus, Wars of the Jews ii. 16, §§ 4, 5). Things by this time had reached the point of no return, however, as the insurgents burned down the Herods’ palaces. Agrippa and Berenice barely fled with their lives to Galilee and joined the Roman cause. It was during this period that Berenice met and fell in love with Titus, who was ten years her junior.

According to Max Dimont, the story of Barabbas as related in the gospels lacks credibility from both the Roman and Jewish standpoint. The story, on its face, presents the Roman authority, Pontius Pilate, backed by overwhelming military might, being cowed by a small crowd of unarmed civilians into releasing a prisoner condemned to death for insurrection against the Roman Empire.[17] Further, Dimont argues against the believability of the Barabbas story by noting that the alleged custom of privilegium Paschale, “the privilege of Passover“, where a criminal is set free, is only found in the Gospels. Raymond E. Brown argued that the Gospels’ narratives about Barabbas cannot be considered historical, but that it is probable that a prisoner referred to as Barabbas (bar abba, “son of the father”) was indeed freed around the period Jesus was crucified and this gave birth to the story.[18]

Paul Before King Agrippa

26 Agrippa said to Paul, “You may now speak to defend yourself.” Paul raised his hand to get their attention and began to speak. He said, “King Agrippa, I feel fortunate that I can stand here before you today and answer all the charges these Jews have made against me. I am very happy to talk to you, because you know so much about all the Jewish customs and the things the Jews argue about. Please listen to me patiently.

“All the Jews know about my whole life. They know the way I lived from the beginning in my own country and later in Jerusalem. These Jews have known me for a long time. If they want to, they can tell you that I was a good Pharisee. And the Pharisees obey the laws of the Jewish religion more carefully than any other group. Now I am on trial because I hope for the promise that God made to our fathers. This is the promise that all the twelve tribes of our people hope to receive. For this hope the Jews serve God day and night. My king, the Jews have accused me because I hope for this same promise. Why do you people think it is impossible for God to raise people from death?

“I used to think that I should do everything I could against Jesus from Nazareth. 10 And that’s what I did, beginning in Jerusalem. The leading priests gave me the authority to put many of God’s people in jail. And when they were being killed, I agreed that it was a good thing. 11 I visited all the synagogues and punished them, trying to make them curse[a] Jesus. My anger against these people was so strong that I went to other cities to find them and punish them.

Paul Tells About Seeing Jesus

12 “One time the leading priests gave me permission and the authority to go to the city of Damascus. 13 On the way there, at noon, I saw a light from heaven, brighter than the sun. It shined all around me and those traveling with me. 14 We all fell to the ground. Then I heard a voice talking to me in Aramaic. The voice said, ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me? You are only hurting yourself by fighting me.’

15 “I said, ‘Who are you, Lord?’

“The Lord said, ‘I am Jesus. I am the one you are persecuting. 16 Stand up! I have chosen you to be my servant. You will tell people about me—what you have seen today and what I will show you. This is why I have come to you. 17 I will keep you safe from your own people and from the non-Jewish people, the ones I am sending you to. 18 You will make them able to understand the truth. They will turn away from darkness to the light. They will turn away from the power of Satan, and they will turn to God. Then their sins can be forgiven, and they can be given a place among God’s people—those who have been made holy by believing in me.’”

Paul Tells About His Work

19 Paul continued speaking: “King Agrippa, after I had this vision from heaven, I obeyed it. 20 I began telling people to change their hearts and lives and turn back to God. And I told them to do what would show that they had really changed. I went first to people in Damascus. Then I went to Jerusalem and to every part of Judea and told the people there. I also went to the non-Jewish people.

21 “This is why the Jews grabbed me and were trying to kill me at the Temple. 22 But God helped me, and he is still helping me today. With God’s help I am standing here today and telling all people what I have seen. But I am saying nothing new. I am saying only what Moses and the prophets said would happen. 23 They said that the Messiah would die and be the first to rise from death. They said that he would bring the light of God’s saving truth[b] to the Jewish people and to the non-Jewish people.”

Paul Tries to Persuade Agrippa

24 While Paul was still defending himself, Festus shouted, “Paul, you are out of your mind! Too much study has made you crazy.”

25 Paul said, “Most Honorable Festus, I am not crazy. What I am saying is true. It all makes perfect sense. 26 King Agrippa knows about all this, and I can speak freely to him. I know that he has heard about these things, because they happened where everyone could see them. 27 King Agrippa, do you believe what the prophets wrote? I know you believe!”

28 King Agrippa said to Paul, “Do you think you can persuade me to become a ‘Christ-follower’ so easily?”

29 Paul said, “It is not important if it is easy or if it is hard. I pray to God that not only you but that everyone listening to me today could be saved and be just like me—except for these chains I have!”

30 King Agrippa, Governor Festus, Bernice, and all the people sitting with them stood up 31 and left the room. They were talking to each other. They said, “This man has done nothing worthy of being put to death or even put in jail.” 32 And Agrippa said to Festus, “We could let him go free, but he has asked to see Caesar.”

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Rabban Gamaliel is the name and title of six holders of the office of Nasi, Prince, in Palestine during the first five centuries CE. The title Rabban, “our master,” was used to distinguish the Nasi from other rabbis. The office of Nasi was primarily one of religious authority but the Nasi also played an occasional political role in representing the Jewish community to the Roman authorities.

Since practically all the references to the office are in sources compiled later and are far from being contemporary records, it is difficult to know for certain how the office came about and the precise way in which the affairs of the Nasi were conducted. From the later sources (Talmudic and Midrashic) it appears that the first Nasi was Rabban Yochanan Ben Zakkai, a disciple of Hillel, after whom Rabban Gamaliel, a grandson of Hillel, served as Nasi; the office then became a hereditary one held by Gamaliel’s descendants.

Yochanan Ben Zakkai

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A list of princes until the end of the Mishnaic period, that is, until the beginning of the third century CE, can now be given:

1. Rabban Gamaliel the Elder (Gamaliel I), first half of the first century.

2. Rabban Simeon ben Gamaliel (Simeon ben Gamaliel I), son of (1).

3. Rabban Gamaliel of Yabneh (Gamaliel II), son of (2).

4. Rabban Simeon ben Gamaliel (Simeon ben Gamaliel II), son of (3).

5. Rabbi Judah the Prince, editor of the Mishnah , son of (4).

6. Rabban Gamaliel (Gamaliel III) son of (5).

The other three Gamaliels are referred to only very infrequently. Gamaliel VI died in 426 CE, after which the office of Nasi was abolished.

Granted that, as above, the majority of the sources are late, there are echoes in these sources of a degree of conflict between the Nasi, the representative of the establishment, and certain other scholars. According to the Mishnah (Rosh Hashanah 2:8-9), in a dispute between Rabban Gamaliel II and Rabbi Joshua regarding the exact date of Yom Kippur , Gamaliel ordered Joshua to appear before him on “his” Yom Kippur carrying his stick and his money-bag so as to establish the Nasi’s authority. According to a Talmudic account (Berakhot27b-28a), after further humiliations of Rabbi Joshua by Rabban Gamaliel, the latter was deposed, for a time, from the office of Nasi.

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