Karen Noorudin

Gematria (Numerology) in the Arabic Alphabet

• knooruddin@visto.com

  Hello listmembers, I m having a very weird day today. I don t know what is happening. I am having a million split second flashes of images passing through my

  Message 1 of 5 , Mar 13, 2001

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  Hello listmembers,

  I’m having a very weird day today. I don’t know what is happening.
  I am having a million split second flashes of images passing through
  my consciousness, but I can’t grab a hold of a single one. I can’t
  seem to focus any thoughts at all (maybe a storm in about to blow
  in?). But I did promise to write something on this subject matter
  today, so please forgive my lack of any proper introduction on these
  sites that I found last night.

  I haven’t read too many of them thoroughly. Edip Yuksel I am
  personally familiar with, having corresponded to him at length in the
  past when another revert friend of mine was heavily into discussions
  with him and included me in the correspondence. Also, Mukul Patel is
  a friend of mine and I am including his web site just because I think
  it fits into the idea that I have (and apparently Pythagoreas and
  many others, too) that the universe is in a perfect order that can be
  observed and measured. Mukul’s work is attempting to prove that
  there is math or numerical proofs even in philosophy.

  The rest appears to be just a continuation of an ancient system of
  belief in an ordered world, using the best modes of available
  measuring equipment – our fingers. Numerology of scriptures dates
  waaaaay back. I always get this confused, but either Hebrew was
  first and split into Aramaic and Arabic, or it was Aramaic first that
  split into Hebrew and Arabic (I think the latter). I saw references
  to the effect that the Arabs were the ones that retained the
  numerology and other magic secrets during certain dark ages. That
  would be an explanation of why Templars and Cabalists all got
  together with Muslims during certain times. Check out these sites:

  For a full description of Mukul’s “Principia” series of works,
  including “Pricipia Philosophica” see
  http://www.crosswinds.net/~principia

  http://www.yuksel.org/e/religion/prime.htm

  http://fakir60.tripod.com/gematria.htm
  (this is interesting and I will myself read more. It regards the
  debate over whether the “Miracle 19” – the Numerical Miracle of the
  Qur’an – is true or false. This site brings into the discussion the
  fact that some use the “hamza” as a letter of the alphabet and seems
  to prove the theory if it is included. Note that the “Alif”
  pronounced like “Ah” most of the time, is always considered a
  consonant in Arabic language. The “Hamza” is also a consonant that
  is sometimes used in place of the “Alif”. I don’t know the rules yet
  when one is used and not the Alif, but maybe if the Alif is at the
  end of a word, a hamza is used instead.)

  http://www.mashriq.org/
  (a note on the above – first time I have seen “Shi’a” and “Sufi” on
  the same page. This does not seem to be a mainstream site at all –
  actually none of the numerology stuff is considered mainstream
  anymore, but it probably should be)

  http://www.mashriq.org/alchemy.html

  http://users.northnet.com.au/~wanderer/boar/druidfaq.txt

  http://www.uspsionics.com/pages/Numbers/Hist_num.html
  (The authors acknowledge the site as less than absolutely accurate,
  which is good becuase I saw a small error regarding Islam. But the
  list is very intersting.)

  http://collection.nlc-
  bnc.ca/100/201/300/ejmas/kronos/2000/NewHist0500-1349.htm

  Karen