There is evidence that Joan Clifford was given the title ‘Rose of the World’ by the common people. Rosamond became at Nun and lived at Godstow. It is being suggested a Nun should become the next Pope. This is to suggest Catholic World in looking for the ‘Rose of the World’ the embodiment of ‘Our Sweet Lady’ that was worshipped by my Rosemondt kindred in De Bosch.
Several years ago I completed my Holy Communion after looking at my Wieneke kindred who belonged to the Order of Saint Francis. Mother Mary Dominica founded Briarcliff College. Mary is Mary Magdelene Rosamond’s cousin. Dominica’s brother, John, was a priest, and her sister, Philopena became Sister Mary Calista in the OSF. Rosa Wieneke became Sister Mary Petronella.
My mother Rosemay (Rose Mary) wanted me to a Franciscan Monk. I believed she named me after Father John, but, wanted my name spelled Jon. When a nurse put an H in Jon, my mother went into a rage and never called me John. At fifty I read about the argment Elizabeth and Zachariah had over the naming of their infant son. My younger sister was named, Victoria Mary, and was sent to Catholic school. Rosemay Rosamond had a hidden religious agenda. Let us make a list of the Marys.
Mother Mary Dominica
Sister Mary Calista
Sister Mary Petronella
Mary Magdalene Rosamond
Rosemary Rosamond
Victoria Mary Presco
Heather Marie Hanson
For Rosemary Rosamond to name her first daughter after the Christ, speaks volumes. When it came to the fame of Christine Rosamond Presco, Rosemary declared on several occasions;
“You prepared her way.”
This is a referrence to John the Baptist.
Above is a photo of Mary Magdalene Rosamnond who looks like a Madonna, a Fair Rosamond.
What is interesting to me, and no other family member, is that my daughter, Heather Marie Hanson, was named after a flower followed by a form of Mary. Her mother put a Rosamond print over Heather’s crib, like one would the Virgin Mary, who was titled ‘The Rose of the World’. Patrice did not know my mother’s name, or, that we were raised Catholic. Heather was born on Rose Mary’s birthday.
Jon Presco
Copyright 2013
On The Ruins of Godstow Nunnery 1785 London Times
Here Rosamond, (ah! such is Beauty’s doom)
Tho’ once she shone with more than angel’s face,
Laid low within the dusky Charnel’s gloom,
With her sweet name the rugged wall doth grace;
Loos’d by the wintry wind and driving rain,
Here stones disjointed seem to hang in air;
Fall’n is the gate, which ne’er shall close again,
No more the prison of the cloister’d Fair.
Deep is the darksome valley’s lone retreat,
Where once to peace and their own God resign’d,
Religious virgin handmaids chose their seat,
Which well might awe the serious pious mind.
Here, in the late slow hours of waining night,
Full oft from far the traveller doth spy
The secret taper’s levell’d stream of light,
Steal through the crevic’d windows arch’d on high.
The midnight bell, at whose accustom’d sound,
With pine and fasting pale, with watchings worn,
Each maiden trac’d the lonely cloysters round,
Oft wak’d the sleeping lark before ’twas morn.
Fled are those days upon the wing of time:
Now here and there with damp and moss o’ergrown,
Moulders the fretted aile and roof sublime,
The massy buttress and the pile o’erthrown.
The heifer plucks the ivy from the wall:
Fall’n Godstow, is the glory of they dome!
Weep, stranger, as thou passest, weep its fall,
And strew a flow’r on Rosamonda’s tomb.
https://rosamondpress.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/wieneke-family-cultural-warfare/
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– EJ Dionne thinks the Catholic Church should make a “brave and bold” choice when it picks a new pope: It should pick a nun. Will it happen? Not a chance, he writes at the Washington Post, but putting a woman in charge “would vastly strengthen Catholicism, help the church solve some of its immediate problems and inspire many who have left the church to look at it with new eyes.” Lots of church critics, including many Catholics themselves, are tired of an all-male hierarchy that has spent decades covering up for all-male sins, writes Dionne. (The Los Angeles Times has yet another example today of the Vatican protecting abusive priests.)
Nuns, meanwhile, have been doing the real work of the church all this time—helping the least of their brethren, as the Bible instructs. This is the church that people admire. So if the cardinals can’t pick a woman, they should at least pick a man “who has the characteristics of my ideal female pontiff,” writes Dionne. “The church needs a leader who has worked closely with the poor and the outcast, who understands that battling over doctrine is less important for the church’s future than modeling Christian behavior—and who sees that the proper Christian attitude toward the modern world is not fear but hope.” Click for the full column. Or click to read another Post columnist who makes the case for an American pontiff.
Why the Next Pope Should Be a Poor Woman of Color
February 14, 2013 By Christian Piatt 8 Comments
For the first time in six centuries, the head of the Catholic Church is stepping down. Some, like Huffington Post Religion’s Senior Editor Paul Raushenbush, have suggested this is an indication that the stodgy religious institution is creeping its way toward modernism. Could it be that the role of Pope will be considered to be that more like a CEO than a sovereign ruler? Is there room within today’s church for its leadership to step down when they feel they can no longer adequately fill the tremendous demands heaped upon them?
Can Popes retire? And if so, do they have to give up those cool red shoes?
So if, indeed, the Catholic Church is moving in a new direction, why not consider a more thorough overhaul? Some have suggested that the next Pope should come from the southern hemisphere, given that this is where the faith is growing the most (actually, it’s not really growing much at all in the northern half of the world). But as some have suggested within the church, the process of selecting a Pope is not necessarily driven by creating a representative leadership.
That said, it seems a rare opportunity to do something exciting. I, like many people, assumed that the successor to Pope Benedict would have to come from within the College of Cardinals. But though this has been tradition for most of the life of the Church, Pope Clement V is a rare exception. He was plucked from a monastery to become Pope, with the hope of overcoming much of the perceived corruption within the College.
And though the College of Cardinals is not explicitly mired in scandal at the moment, the Church itself certainly has suffered some blows in the court of public opinion, as well as in the court of law, in some cases. So given that precedent, perhaps it’s time for another radical departure from tradition; one that will signal to the world that the Church is more committed than ever before to its mandate to care for the poor, and support the marginalized.
Who better to exemplify this than a woman of color who comes from modest means? Who better to embody the Christ-like compassionate suffering alongside the poor than one who knows the experience first-hand? But the question remains whether a woman ever could be the Pope. Given the historic exclusion of women from the priesthood, and therefore the process that leads one to become part of the College of Cardinals, it’s an admitted long shot. But as I mentioned above, the Cardinals technically can call whomever they choose to serve as Pope.
There are even legends of a female Pope, Pope Joan, who allegedly disguised herself as a man in the Middle Ages, but this is largely dismissed as myth by historians and leadership within the Church. But given the enduring popularity of the legend, it’s clear that more than a handful of people are intrigued by the idea, if not the reality, of what the Church would look like if a woman took the helm.
So with all of that as a bit of background, I thought I’d make my own (somewhat serious) case for why the next Pope should not only be a woman, but ought also be someone of color who has lived much more in the way that Jesus himself lived: among the poor.
We need compassion. I love the idea that those in the priesthood take a vow of poverty, but the reality of that is more farce than fact. Yes, priests, bishops and the Pope may not technically own anything, but from parsonages to cars and drivers to expense accounts, their lives hardly reflect the kind of poverty much of the world experiences on a daily basis. Dimensions of Catholicism, like Catholic Charities, are committed to care for the poor.
And yet the leadership seems to experience a general disconnect from such struggles. To have someone from a developing nation serve as the next Pope, if not someone who actually has lived in poverty, might send a message to the world about the Church’s priorities, while also refocusing the church on one of its most important missions.
We need Sophia. Orthodox and Roman Catholic tradition has, in the past, embraced the notion of the Holy Spirit being a feminine manifestation of God within the Trinity. And yet, when it comes to earthly leadership and discernment, we lean too heavily only on male perspectives. Reality is that, at least in the West, more women are in church today than men; this is a trend that holds up across the board throughout Christianity. At a grassroots community level, women are keeping our churches going and holding the faith communities together. Some of that wisdom could serve the church well from a position of great power in the Vatican.
We need to celebrate the feminine sacred. For centuries, the images of Mary, breast exposed and nursing the infant Jesus, were prominent on sanctuaries. They were seen as a symbol of provision, nourishment and comfort, especially in distressed periods like the Dark Ages. But with the advent of both the printing press and the growing popularity of human autopsies, the human body became both demystified and scandalized. After all, where there is mass production of media, there is pornography.
Suddenly, the breast was tantalizing, an object of shame. Subsequently, the images of Maria Lactans were replaced with crosses. But in the process, we all experienced a loss of a dimension of the Divine we ought to reclaim. How better to orient people toward that than to have a woman in the Vatican?
We need healing. Plenty of damage has been done in the name of the Christian faith, specifically with regard to ongoing sex scandals within the Catholic Church. In a special program produced by HBO called “Mea Maxima Culpa,” blame for the protection of perpetrators over the advocacy for the rights of victims goes all the way to the Pope himself. In the greater culture, the vast majority of sexual offenders are male, Even if it’s a matter of perception, there’s a sense that the Catholic patriarchy is principally in the business of protecting its own, rather than advocating tirelessly for the vulnerable. And while the Vatican offers rhetorical regret for the wrongdoings within its institutions, little seems to change. A feminine perspective inherently comes with the experience of being disempowered and vulnerable. Though it’s no guarantee, that understanding could help speak much about the Church’s value of reconciliation without actually saying a word.
About Christian Piatt
Christian Piatt is the creator and editor of BANNED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BIBLE and BANNED QUESTIONS ABOUT JESUS. He co-created and co-edits the “WTF: Where’s the Faith?” young adult series with Chalice Press, and he has a memoir on faith, family and parenting being published in early 2012 called PREGMANCY: A Dad, a Little Dude and a Due Date.
Providence – The release of court documents involving a Roman Catholic organization is fueling speculation that Pope Benedict was forced to resign.
Prior to her death in 2008, wealthy Rhode Island widow, Garielle Mee, designated a Catholic order known as the Legion of Christ as the beneficiary of her $60 million fortune. Following Mee’s death, her niece, Mary Lou Dauray, filed a lawsuit challenging Mee’s will, claiming the Legion had defrauded Mee.
In September 2012, Judge Michael Silverstein of Rhode Island Superior Court said there was evidence that the Legion had “unduly persuaded” Mee to change her will so the Legion would be the beneficiary of the fortune. Silverstein also pointed to a detailed process used by the Legion to slowly take control of Mee’s finances. Despite the evidence, Silverstein dismissed the case against the Legion, saying Dauray had no legal standing in the case.
Rev. Marcial Maciel, founder of the Legion, was investigated by the Catholic Church for allegations of sexual abuse on several occasions. In 1997, nine men accused Maciel of sexual abuse, filing a formal complaint with the Vatican in 1998. The case was never investigated however, being shelved by the Sacred Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith which was led by then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. Digital Journal reported that Ratzinger, who is now known as Pople Benedict XVI, was named head of the Congregation of Faith in November 1981. In that capacity, Ratzinger was in charge of overseeing all investigations into sexual abuse by Catholic clergy.
Father Stephen Fichter, a New Jersey priest who was a part of the Legion of Christ order for 14 years and served as the chief financial officer, believed Marciel may have been involved in a possible financial scandal as well. He told the New York Times he had informed the Vatican that every time Marciel traveled, he was required to give Marciel $10,000 in cash. Fichter continued by saying:
“As Legionaries, we were taught a very strict poverty; if I went out of town and bought a Bic pen and a chocolate bar, I would have to turn in the receipts. And yet for Father Maciel there was never any accounting. It was always cash, never any paper trail. And because he was this incredible hero to us, we never even questioned it for a second.”
Accusations against Maciel continued, including accusations that he had an affair with a woman and fathered a daughter. In 2004, Ratzinger’s office sent a letter to the alleged abuse victims saying and investigation into Maciel would be opened. Two years later, once Ratzinger had been named Pope, the Vatican announced that Maciel would not be tried for his crimes due to his age. Maciel died a short time later.
According to an ABC News report, the Vatican had known about the alleged abuse for years, but chose to ignore it. The report points to the fact that Jerry Renner and Jason Berry, reporters with the The Hartford Courant newspaper, informed the Vatican of the allegations of abuse, but never received a response. A short time later, Maciel was appointed to represent the pope at a meeting of Latin American bishops, which in the eyes of Renner and Berry was a clear signal Ratzinger and the Vatican were choosing to ignore the sexual abuse allegations.
J. Paul Lennon, who was a member of the Legion for 23 years, said a lawsuit was filed by alleged victims in the Vatican’s court which asked to have Maciel excommunication. According to Lennon, it was Ratzinger that “quietly made the lawsuit go away”. Lennon also states that none of the victims were ever asked for a statement.
On Friday, a Rhode Island Superior Court judge agreed to unseal court documents related to the lawsuit filed by Dauray. The documents detail how Rev. Luis Garza, second in command of the Legion, confronted Maciel’s mistress and daughter in 2006 after seeing the two women in Maceil’s hotel room. It was then that he learned that Maceil had indeed been having an affair with a woman and fathered a child. Garza said he did not go public with the information “because we needed to comply with indications of the Holy See”. As reported by Digital Journal, when Ratzinger was the Holy See (leader) of the Sacred Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, he stated that church investigations into accusations of sexual misconduct by priest should remain private.
In 2010, Pope Benedict XVI took over the Legion and named a papal delegate to oversee order. That does appear to have resolved issues within the order however.
In 2012, another member of the Legion, Rev. Thomas Williams, admitted he had an affair with a women and fathered a child. According to the Christian Post, the Legion was aware of Williams’ affair, but chose not act on the matter.
The Legion had fought the release of the court documents, claiming they could prejudice a jury in any future law suits. However the The Associated Press, The New York Times, the National Catholic Reporter and The Providence Journal argued that the documents “were in the public interest”.
Many are speculating that the Pope’s sudden resignation was due to the pending release of the documents. The released documents included depositions of high-ranking Legion officials and shows the relationship between Ratzinger and Maciel. Revelations of that relationship, along with previous testimony alleging the Pope ignored known sexual abuse and sexual misconduct on the part of Maciel, is fueling speculation that the Pope was forced to resign.
Some are also pointing to the court documents as the reason behind reports of the Pope seeking immunity from prosecution from the Italian President. Prior knowledge of the content of the documents is also believed to be behind a statement from a Vatican source saying the Pope will continue to live at the Vatican because he “wouldn’t have his immunity” otherwise.
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